Final fantasy 7 Is it really that great?

[Mr.Squishy]

I'll do the mandatory yahtzee-channeling for a bit and say that it's average.boilerplate.competent. run-of-the-mill.

 

[Kasawd]

6 has 3 big problems to my mind:
1. THE GLITCHES. HOLY HELL THE GLITCHES.
2. The World of Ruin completely loses track of the narrative.
3. Kefka is a great villain, but he's used poorly. An Evilly Affable villain belongs dancing around in the spotlight. He shouldn't just vanish for the entire 2nd half of the game. The reason Sephiroth can get away with not being around much is because he's a villain who is designed to fuck with your head. He's a looming menace who you catch rare glimpses of, and all these glimpses end in mindfucks and murder.

1. What glitches? I remember the game being rather polished, I mean there where a couple times where the game would freeze after 6 hours of strait gameplay, but I don't think that was much different than any other game out there. Half of that was in the hardware, accidentally unplug your controller mid boss-fight? Back to the last save!

Unless of course you're playing it on an emulator, but that's an entirely different story. Gamewise, I don't remember there being any glitches at all.

2. Come now, the World of Ruin's lack of a concise narrative only went to re-enforce the mood. The wold is torn asunder, and as you search through the ravished viscera of places and settlements you once knew, you're greeted with nothing but a sense of despair and remorse, lives turned on end, societies clinging to the last shreds of hope they can, dogs and cats living together... Total chaos! Kefka ravished the land like never before, total destruction from mountains to shore. You find yourself wandering, aimlessly, lost, without purpose, trying to regain your compainions, and assemble some sort of feeling that all is not lost.
All that would be moot if you had the same linear point A to Point B structure of before, you'd loose the feeling.

3. Yeah... he's a *****. Good point. Does give way to question where he is during the disappearance. I like to think he's sitting around in total luxury, eating bonbons and torturing small animals.

Or talking to himself. Maybe tormenting the Gods. Kefka was great because of that, I think. It shows that he really just DOESN'T care that you are there.

I like your interpretation of the World of Ruin. the music on overowlrd added to it rather nicely.

 

[superspartan004]

I really hate the phrase "overrated" myself, because anyone who doesn't like a popular game can announce it as overrated and make it seem like anyone who likes it is an idiot with bad taste

a game that everyone worships is FFVI (I honestly beleive more people worship this one than 7)
this one is probably my 3rd favorite but it isn't AS great as everyone has told me, these are some reasons that "bring down FFVI"

1. what's the big deal with the Opera Scene? a good scene but everyone makes a big deal out of it

2. lack of story influence and dialogue for some characters. the only playable characters with an actual influence on the story besides their introduction are Terra, Celes, and Locke, everyone else is just sort of there.

3. What's with the World of Ruin? why didn't Kefka destroy the world right then and there? what was he waiting for?

 

[The AI]

I really hate the phrase "overrated" myself, because anyone who doesn't like a popular game can announce it as overrated and make it seem like anyone who likes it is an idiot with bad taste Even people who think that

a game that everyone worships is FFVI (I honestly beleive more people worship this one than 7)

Not true. Most people who love VI just revere it as a great 16-bit game. I think that many would agree that VI isn't the best JRPG ever made (a few other games deserve the title more) whereas a lot of VII fanboys seem to think that it's the greatest game in the whole universe and that nothing is better.

this one is probably my 3rd favorite but it isn't AS great as everyone has told me, these are some reasons that "bring down FFVI"

1. what's the big deal with the Opera Scene? a good scene but everyone makes a big deal out of it
It was one of the first scenes of its type to combine gameplay, narrative, cutting edge technology and music to make an extremely emotional part of the game.

2. lack of story influence and dialogue for some characters. the only playable characters with an actual influence on the story besides their introduction are Terra, Celes, and Locke, everyone else is just sort of there.
Yes, I understand where you're coming from. But what about Sabin's quest where he was split off from the rest of the party? And there were plenty of other scenes involving the other characters. But yes, they don't have a MASSIVE influence on the story.

3. What's with the World of Ruin? why didn't Kefka destroy the world right then and there? what was he waiting for?
This is the reason why I love Kefka as a villain. He is one SADISTIC son of a *****. He spared the remander of the world's population just so he could use his godlike powers to torture them and make them suffer.

And for those who say that FFVI falls flat in the World of Ruin, I agree. It was an interesting experiment in nonlinearity, but it definitely lost momentum from the awesome World of Balance.

 

[Otterwuff]

FFVII - no, it isn't that great. This is an opinion.

My favourite is FFX. I thought the story and gameplay was better, and that's all it takes for one game to top the other. Other people can and will disagree, and that's that.

I think FFVII lies in the middle of the list. FFX, III, V and VI are the top contenders, then the rest of the games follow in no particular order.

I stress the fact that this is an opinion - I found the game good, but other games are just better. So I'll repeat - no, it isn't great. It's good.

But I'm no longer a big fan of the FF series regardless. After X I lost interest, moved on to other RPGs and other games.

 

[IckleMissMayhem]

I laughed when Aeris died. I was kinda expecting Sephiroth to make Cloud kill her, instead of doing it himself.

Having said that, FFVII irritated the hell out of me. It's not the graphics, those I can deal with/look past. It's the transparent characters, little or no character/story development, and about a hundred million different little niggles that altogether made finishing this game a chore, rather than an enjoyable experience.

Much prefer FFVIII or FFX.