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Godammit Bioware! Stop making me chooses between DLC and Portal 2!
I'm not made of money!
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Godammit Bioware! Stop making me chooses between DLC and Portal 2!
I'm not made of money!
I sincerely hope you're right, that's been one of most interesting sub-plots in my opinion. I'd say most significant too...but they're all pretty significant. I have high hopes for this last game, but am cautious about assuming things will work out.JeanLuc761 said:
Fingers crossed though!
Blerg...
I hope this "Trial" is some something just to keep the Batarians silent. But Chances are that no none believes that the Reapers exist and Shepard is seen as a Psychotic Mass murderer. But luckily the Reapers show up and then everyone is like "OMG its all true! Come save us Shepard!!!111".
We all have seen this kind of story development and i hope Bioware doesn't go that way.
The Arrival DLC was rather disappointing; In the first game, we had this one mass relay being propelled by a supernova in the System. The Relay in the Solar System was encased in so much Ice that the mass collapsed into a sphere.
And now this Relay simply explodes. If there was some technobabble bomb on board or some death ray thingy or indeed anything other then a cutscene in which the relay is simply shattered by the impact of the Asteroid it would have been better. And why does it explode so violently that it takes out the whole system? Never explained. Why does the Doctor you free explain to you how the whole thing works and then she's against you all of a sudden? Apparently reaper artifacts can indoctrinate really fast and selectively, shepard was fine. But what ever. I could go on, but i'll just say that i wish that this isn't the basis for much of the remaining Plot. If it is, i would have dragged shepard in court for not trying to warn the Batarians the second he knew what's going on.
Next Hope for ME3: Cerberus isn't evil. Well, they are ruthless and stupid, some of the accidents they had in ME1 could have been prevented by Doors. Nothing fancy, just Doors.
I liked the Illusive man as being completely ruthless, but not "evil". I would have guessed that he wouldn't like some things shepard did, but he'd help him anyway because no matter what he did, he's still the best hope against the Reapers. Even if Shepard says he's going to destroy all the Cerberus experiments that he thinks are evil, which is about 95% of them, 5% of cerberus is better then 0% of Cerberus.
The Illusive Man would see Shepard as the best Hope for the survival of Humanity and if that means that most of Cerberus will bite the dust, he would still help Shepard.
I can not see why T.I.M. would have Shepard killed. I don't see the Boss of Cerberus changing his tune. He still believes shepard is the hero to save humanity. Kill shepard, humanity dies. Humanity dying isn't exactly the "Advancement of Human Interests" Cerberus has on its agenda.
I hope this "Trial" is some something just to keep the Batarians silent. But Chances are that no none believes that the Reapers exist and Shepard is seen as a Psychotic Mass murderer. But luckily the Reapers show up and then everyone is like "OMG its all true! Come save us Shepard!!!111".
We all have seen this kind of story development and i hope Bioware doesn't go that way.
The Arrival DLC was rather disappointing; In the first game, we had this one mass relay being propelled by a supernova in the System. The Relay in the Solar System was encased in so much Ice that the mass collapsed into a sphere.
And now this Relay simply explodes. If there was some technobabble bomb on board or some death ray thingy or indeed anything other then a cutscene in which the relay is simply shattered by the impact of the Asteroid it would have been better. And why does it explode so violently that it takes out the whole system? Never explained. Why does the Doctor you free explain to you how the whole thing works and then she's against you all of a sudden? Apparently reaper artifacts can indoctrinate really fast and selectively, shepard was fine. But what ever. I could go on, but i'll just say that i wish that this isn't the basis for much of the remaining Plot. If it is, i would have dragged shepard in court for not trying to warn the Batarians the second he knew what's going on.
Next Hope for ME3: Cerberus isn't evil. Well, they are ruthless and stupid, some of the accidents they had in ME1 could have been prevented by Doors. Nothing fancy, just Doors.
I liked the Illusive man as being completely ruthless, but not "evil". I would have guessed that he wouldn't like some things shepard did, but he'd help him anyway because no matter what he did, he's still the best hope against the Reapers. Even if Shepard says he's going to destroy all the Cerberus experiments that he thinks are evil, which is about 95% of them, 5% of cerberus is better then 0% of Cerberus.
The Illusive Man would see Shepard as the best Hope for the survival of Humanity and if that means that most of Cerberus will bite the dust, he would still help Shepard.
I can not see why T.I.M. would have Shepard killed. I don't see the Boss of Cerberus changing his tune. He still believes shepard is the hero to save humanity. Kill shepard, humanity dies. Humanity dying isn't exactly the "Advancement of Human Interests" Cerberus has on its agenda.
Summary of Arrival?hazabaza1 said:
Reaper's are right up our arse. Better get your running shoes on.
Fingers crossed. They haven't even mentioned Tali's role in the game yet so I'd imagine Bioware is keeping some information close to the chest.LawlessSquirrel said:
My Legion is dead, so probably not so much there, seeing as many others might also have a dead Legion.JeanLuc761 said:
I don't like how Jack Wall has been replaced as the composer. Jack Wall created the music of Mass Effect and it seems cheap for him not to be included in the finale. I hope Mansell keeps Wall's sound, I don't think Mass Effect would feel right without it.
Well, Garrus could have died and he's back as a full-fledged squadmate.Hawk of Battle said:
Thankfully, the argument "well, they could be dead so they can't be major characters!" no longer holds much validity.
Bunch of points:
-If you took the Renegade ending for ME2, why in the world would TIM want to kill you? Unless you tell him to F. off somewhere between the games or in the ending.
-I'm really curious to see how the Shadow Broker DLC will impact ME3.
-If Tali isn't in the game, the Tali fans will burn Bioware to the ground.
-Is this Sanders guy related to Kahlee Sanders from the novels? Or does Bioware plan on keeping the two stories mutually exclusive so it doesn't make problems for future books?
-If you took the Renegade ending for ME2, why in the world would TIM want to kill you? Unless you tell him to F. off somewhere between the games or in the ending.
-I'm really curious to see how the Shadow Broker DLC will impact ME3.
-If Tali isn't in the game, the Tali fans will burn Bioware to the ground.
-Is this Sanders guy related to Kahlee Sanders from the novels? Or does Bioware plan on keeping the two stories mutually exclusive so it doesn't make problems for future books?
So long as I can, at some point, point out a window at a reaper while standing next to the turian councillor and say, with fingerquotes 'oh look a "reaper"' in total deadpan.
Im glad Liara is returning and Ashley/Kaidan are too. Liara got semi-shafted in ME2 with an excellent DLC making up for it. Ashley/Kaidan just got plain shafted.
Garrus is an annoying shit who can sit on the bench for ME3.
As for Liara being better suited off the team, I disagree. Instead of excluding her from the squad becaue its supposedly such a compelling narrative to limit her time in game via not being a squadmate, why dont they instead explore [insert squadmate here] and their [insert contrived, flimsy and easily overridden excuse for a sideline role] instead.
Honestly, how much use is a galactic information broker in a galaxy thats in the midst of being burned by the reapers.
Assuming the galaxy is still mostly functioning with Earth bearing the brunt, its only more reason for the reapers to commit resources to stop her, and for her to seek shelter with Shepard and help him.
The reapers believe knowledge is power, and limiting the galaxys trade of knowledge and information will help them.
Liara sitting there feeding information around the galaxy while the reapers just sit by is simply not feasible or within their MO.
Anyway. News so far sounds like it has some promise. Coming out and not just screaming "ZOMG WE HAZ MAED SHOOTEH COHMBAT EVUN BETTERERZ!" is exactly what I wanted from Bioware.
Upgrades sound good. Expansive power trees sound good. Hopefully there is some squadmate armour customisation going, like giving them a slightly more limited "modular" setup like Shepard so you can at least customise some areas of them.
Also hopefully the gameworld is much better.
Im also holding out hope for more banter, possibly even with a slight return of elevators instead of just constant boring load screens.
Still, I really had Bioware tagged for selling out even further, but it looks like theyve dont the opposite. No multiplayer being a MASSIVE indicator.
Lots of places where things could go wrong, but for the first release of information, Im at least impressed. And from someone who only liked a few of the DLC packs from ME2 and not much else and was really starting to hate Bioware for it and other things like Dragon Age 2, thats a pretty impressive turnaround.
Garrus is an annoying shit who can sit on the bench for ME3.
As for Liara being better suited off the team, I disagree. Instead of excluding her from the squad becaue its supposedly such a compelling narrative to limit her time in game via not being a squadmate, why dont they instead explore [insert squadmate here] and their [insert contrived, flimsy and easily overridden excuse for a sideline role] instead.
Honestly, how much use is a galactic information broker in a galaxy thats in the midst of being burned by the reapers.
Assuming the galaxy is still mostly functioning with Earth bearing the brunt, its only more reason for the reapers to commit resources to stop her, and for her to seek shelter with Shepard and help him.
The reapers believe knowledge is power, and limiting the galaxys trade of knowledge and information will help them.
Liara sitting there feeding information around the galaxy while the reapers just sit by is simply not feasible or within their MO.
Anyway. News so far sounds like it has some promise. Coming out and not just screaming "ZOMG WE HAZ MAED SHOOTEH COHMBAT EVUN BETTERERZ!" is exactly what I wanted from Bioware.
Upgrades sound good. Expansive power trees sound good. Hopefully there is some squadmate armour customisation going, like giving them a slightly more limited "modular" setup like Shepard so you can at least customise some areas of them.
Also hopefully the gameworld is much better.
Im also holding out hope for more banter, possibly even with a slight return of elevators instead of just constant boring load screens.
Still, I really had Bioware tagged for selling out even further, but it looks like theyve dont the opposite. No multiplayer being a MASSIVE indicator.
Lots of places where things could go wrong, but for the first release of information, Im at least impressed. And from someone who only liked a few of the DLC packs from ME2 and not much else and was really starting to hate Bioware for it and other things like Dragon Age 2, thats a pretty impressive turnaround.
I can see it already.
Shepard: Wait... Liara what the hell are you doing on my ship don't you have lik-
Liara: I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SHEPARD. NOW LETS GO TO GET SAM REAPERS!
Plausable.
Shepard: Wait... Liara what the hell are you doing on my ship don't you have lik-
Liara: I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SHEPARD. NOW LETS GO TO GET SAM REAPERS!
Plausable.
Will Shepard be the protagonist? What if he/she got killed at the end of ME2? Inb4 BioWare opinions on death.
Companions I want: Niftu Cal the Biotic God, Blasto the Hanar Spectre, Mordin, Thane, Legion, Zaeed, Wrex, Garrus.
Companions I hate: Ashley, Kaidan, Jacob, Miranda.
All the others are meh.
Companions I want: Niftu Cal the Biotic God, Blasto the Hanar Spectre, Mordin, Thane, Legion, Zaeed, Wrex, Garrus.
Companions I hate: Ashley, Kaidan, Jacob, Miranda.
All the others are meh.
If Shepard eats it at the end of ME2, then you can't use that save file for ME3. Bioware said this a good while ago I think.2718 said:
...I am pleased with everything I just read. Garrus and Liara back as squadmates? Color me aroused.
Also, these three bits here-
Role-playing elements will be expanded from those seen in the second game, with larger skill trees, powers that evolve over time and weapons that can be upgraded with modifications.
All classes in the game can now use any weapon, but will be limited by the amount they can carry at once. The Soldier class will be able to bring everything to the battlefield, for example.
Finally, BioWare has denied early reports that the game will feature multiplayer, but will allegedly consider such a feature for 'future games and spinoffs in the series'.
In particular have me excited? Expanding on the powers and skill trees? Awesome. Able to play as an adept and still use shotguns and assault rifles? Fantastic. Potential multiplayer Mass Effect games in the future?!. Come on, Bioware, show me Mass Effect: Battlefront! If this happens I will forgive the world for never making a Star Wars BF3.
anyways, awesome news is awesome.
Also, these three bits here-
Role-playing elements will be expanded from those seen in the second game, with larger skill trees, powers that evolve over time and weapons that can be upgraded with modifications.
All classes in the game can now use any weapon, but will be limited by the amount they can carry at once. The Soldier class will be able to bring everything to the battlefield, for example.
Finally, BioWare has denied early reports that the game will feature multiplayer, but will allegedly consider such a feature for 'future games and spinoffs in the series'.
In particular have me excited? Expanding on the powers and skill trees? Awesome. Able to play as an adept and still use shotguns and assault rifles? Fantastic. Potential multiplayer Mass Effect games in the future?!. Come on, Bioware, show me Mass Effect: Battlefront! If this happens I will forgive the world for never making a Star Wars BF3.
anyways, awesome news is awesome.
That last point of yours is the first thing I wondered too. With all the possible surnames out there, it seems like it'd be a mighty big coincidence for there to be another prominent character named Sanders without some sort of connection. Or Bioware could just be screwing with us, but my money's more on the former.Et3rnalLegend64 said:
Besides that, well, I can certainly understand the Illusive Man wanting to take out my Shephard. I gladly flipped him the bird at the end of ME2, the sneaky git. And he's certainly shown a vindictive streak in the novels.
I'm very much looking forward to having Liara back as a proper addition to my party. I want her and my FemShep to have little blue babies together at the end of the game.
The expanded roleplaying elements sound good too, if they can balance between the first game and the second. While the inventory system in the first was a mess, I did like the weapon mods like being able to add stabilisers and scram rails. And weapon restrictions probably won't trouble me too much. I scarcely used any weapons on my infiltrator besides the SMG from Kasumi's mission and the beautiful, F-off Widow Sniper Rifle once I got it.
i think the story details sound like they might be more about the default story you get if you start a new game as i doubt cerberus would want to kill you if you sided with them at the end of the game and saved the station rather than destroyed it.
as for the changes in game play mass effect 2's changes sounded terible when they were first described in about 2 lines of text but the end product was great and the increased rpg powers sounds great.
as for the compainion details i call bull**** on that i built a interesting team of characters in the second game and i would like as many of them as possible to return as part of the team legion especially because his time was short but rather interesting; and what about romances with characters like jack and tally if they don't come back what was the point
as for the changes in game play mass effect 2's changes sounded terible when they were first described in about 2 lines of text but the end product was great and the increased rpg powers sounds great.
as for the compainion details i call bull**** on that i built a interesting team of characters in the second game and i would like as many of them as possible to return as part of the team legion especially because his time was short but rather interesting; and what about romances with characters like jack and tally if they don't come back what was the point