Mam I dont know where you come from. But round here our womens LOVE sterile smoking badasses.. its the american way!Buretsu said:
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Well when you havent played the game all you have is there appearance for your memory to reference.
I might say the same thing an be like "oh the chick with big boobs" Then I get to know her and its like " Oh the girl we lanned dark souls with cool"
see!lol
I might say the same thing an be like "oh the chick with big boobs" Then I get to know her and its like " Oh the girl we lanned dark souls with cool"
see!lol
I've addressed this question in a post above actually. I was a huge Lara Croft fangirl.Tenmar said:
My problem with her is that the sexualisation actually took away from her real character.
Took away? You might argue that the freeing slaves thing stole the show in comparison to the rest of abes life.Moonlight Butterfly said:
People afix on controversy if I have an affair and also help an ailing economy like bill. well people will talk about me getting my dick sucked first and the deeper aspects second.
Some people are just shallow.
I have no idea why I have this defensive reaction over her when it comes to her being sexualised. If she was real life celebrity I would have no problem with her posing in FHM. That would be her choice right?Buretsu said:
I just don't think that stuff fits her character at all and I don't think she would even be interested in doing that if she was a real person.
It's a strange thing I know but it's how I feel.
I think it's just a really good example of why sexual objectification in video games can actually take away from our culture rather than add to it.Tenmar said:
She was but at the same time I feel like she is ruined by sexualisation. I have never ever said she is a bad character. But she could be a GREAT character without the greasy film of sex object.Buretsu said:
This is why I was like RRRAGH over the reboot. She could be the coolest female video game character who ever lived yet the male devs just don't seem to 'get' it.
They have since said the guy at E3 was just a big jerk so I have calmed down now. But still I hope they don't mess it up.
I think it would be worse if they changed her body to suit the needs of others I mean thatd be like if a celeb like angelina were to make her boobs smaller so that more women could respect her? than the question would be
Shouldnt it only matter if you respect yourself? So in that i say as gamers we should embrace our lara not make excuses because her and we have noone to answer to but ourselves and dont need anyone else to like us or our games.
not that more diversity is a bad thing. but its better when the industry grows a spine as well as diversity.
Shouldnt it only matter if you respect yourself? So in that i say as gamers we should embrace our lara not make excuses because her and we have noone to answer to but ourselves and dont need anyone else to like us or our games.
not that more diversity is a bad thing. but its better when the industry grows a spine as well as diversity.
That Newgrounds user could seriously get sued for making that. I can see a lawyer finding all sorts of things to charge him with. I can only wonder if the irony will ever sit in with that guy; his little submission will likely be part of her project.
On the bright side, negative publicity makes for great advertising. I wonder if the Westboro Baptist Church & One Million Moms will ever figure out that sales increase for anything they picket against.
On the bright side, negative publicity makes for great advertising. I wonder if the Westboro Baptist Church & One Million Moms will ever figure out that sales increase for anything they picket against.
I have F cups I'm not exactly going to diss women who have big boobs mate. It's the reaction and treatment of the big boobies that bothers me.rbstewart7263 said:
I am not just my boobs and neither is Lara so please may the games developers not focus on them for five minutes and present her as the great character we know she can be.
Sorry if I'm not replying to everyone great I'm actually quite poorly at the moment and debates can get quite exhausting.
Im going to speak plainly moonlight and not directly about you so dont take this as disrespect at all in fact I mean it as my way of being completely respectful by not mincing my words around.
On the topic of boobs Ive seen this before Whedon once stated that before hed right his buffy spinoff comic Fray he stated that one of his requirements was "small boobs" as if to say that by not having big boobs he was defending the ladies.
To me that sets up a double standard. I see a future where people look down on women with big boobs as incapable compared to say buffy or fray.
So id say perhaps we should be more standup irregardless does that not set a better example?
On the topic of boobs Ive seen this before Whedon once stated that before hed right his buffy spinoff comic Fray he stated that one of his requirements was "small boobs" as if to say that by not having big boobs he was defending the ladies.
To me that sets up a double standard. I see a future where people look down on women with big boobs as incapable compared to say buffy or fray.
So id say perhaps we should be more standup irregardless does that not set a better example?
also the developers focus on those tits for nigh on 3 seconds and then the rest of the game/time focus on her so id argue that you are getting your wish on that one.
and yes debates are tiring. also you and i play dark souls which i hold in high regard have you beaten it yet?
and yes debates are tiring. also you and i play dark souls which i hold in high regard have you beaten it yet?
Even if Lara was wearing a turtle-neck sweater and the camera focused for 0.5 seconds on the buldge where her breasts are supposed to be, feminists would rage in accusing of blatant sexualization.rbstewart7263 said:
There's really no limit to how far this can be pushed really, so the safest thing would be to not have women in video games at all so feminists have nothing to complain about. Perhaps just their voices would be enough (don't pick a sexy voice though, that could be seen as blatantly sexist). Even the strong women like Lara, Xena, Samus etc shouldn't be there because they all wear clothes which outline their sexy girl bits.
I honestly can't see a limit to this "debate", feminists can keep pushing it endlessly. I'm not trying to undermine the very roots of feminism - I acknowedge the real purposes behind their existence.
Ok, I just have to say, in that post you complained about your girlfriend saying "All men are pigs and disgusting liars! Blagh!"Crazycat690 said:
And then said "I don't know if I can trust a girl again".
You sort of did the exact same thing she did there...
It sexual is NOT the only thing they are, that is YOUR prejudice at work, you see sexy and that is all you see because you are quite literally obsessed with sex.Moonlight Butterfly said:Because sexy is THE ONLY thing that they are. They are never portrayed as just a person and like the victim in the short skirt that is all the hateful cop sees because he is tuned by the media to think women are nothing but tits and ass and not actually people.Treblaine said:
I gave an example of his argument your response was to say that men must be sexualised because they have their shirts off!. >_>
Yeah one example which no women find attractive, well done! I'm not even going to justify the tuxedo thing with a response. You really think a tuxedo is the same as bondage gear? :|HigherTomorrow said:I'm done for tonight, but I combat your claim that Lara Croft is less of a character because, despite being a strong female heroine she is sexualized, with this picture of my favorite male hero, Solid Snake.
To say Lara Croft or any protagonist is purely sexual displays an ignorance ON YOUR PART. YOU are like the hated cop.
Excuse me but can you please find a man's butt that is more perfect?