Former Nirvana Members "Dismayed" Over Guitar Hero 5

[Nargleblarg]

How do you think the Beatles feel? I mean come on...people die and we all will die some day just learn to live with it.

 

[eels05]

Maybe Courtney Love should actually read what she puts her signature on.

Besides what happened to the apathetic,cynical,who gives a fuck,GEN X attitude that Cobain apparently personified back in the early to mid 90's.I think the guy would probably be laughing his arse off over the whole non-issue.

 

[AceDiamond]

Maybe Courtney Love should actually read what she puts her signature on.

She'd have to be sober first and that's never happening.

 

[AceDiamond]

The problem with this is that if Kurt were still alive, he'd have hated this inclusion of his avatar in Guitar Hero.

I dunno this is the same guy who happily let Weird Al make fun of him (respectfully) with "Smells like Nirvana"

The other thing is isn't it up to the player to choose to use him or not? I haven't played a GH since 3 but I would think that's the case. And isn't Johnny Cash in this game as well or is Kurt the only dead musician we get to play as. Also, so they're all upset. Problem is they signed a contract so either they didn't read it (unlikely except in the case of Courtney Love), or they misinterpreted some of the fine print (likely, but also nobody's fault but their own).

Letting Weird Al write an extremely clever version of "Teen Spirit" and including Cobain's image in a Guitar Hero game is not the same thing whatsoever. That comparison doesn't even make sense. Cobain found Weird Al's version funny. What would he find funny about Activision using his image for the purpose of selling a few more copies of their video game?

The comparison is that he wasn't so up his ass as you seem to think. And since people have already pointed out he desperately wanted mainstream success anyway, I think it easily illustrates us that the only person who knew Kurt Cobain is...Kurt Cobain.

And thus we can't know for sure how he'd feel cause he's dead and all.

EDIT: crap. doublepost.

 

[stiver]

Nirvana is just a band.

Kurt Cobain was just a singer.

Get the hell over it already.

He killed himself because he was depressed about exactly this sort of thing happening.

He killed himself because he was depressed over people having fun with a video game! :O

No, he was an idiot druggy. ANYONE who commits suicide and leaves behind his wife and child, deserves no ones respect or admiration or sympathy.

Nirvana were just a band.
The beatles, just a band.
Led Zeppelin, just a band.
The next big thing, will be just a band.

 

[WhiteTiger225]

They do realize he is dead so probally doesn't care, right?

 

[The Inquisitive Mug]

Absolutely. That and Cobain has one of those weird "OMFG KuRt cOB@iNE IS TEH GREATEST MUSISHAN EVER!!1!" followings for some reason, like his songs cured cancer, so people are so going to be pissed.

Also, great call on Blind-Lemon Jefferson. Holy crap I haven't heart him in a good while.

 

[Meado]

I'm not ignoring what they've done for evolving music it's more that I have absolutely no interest in the band itself and thus wouldn't know who was in it.

part of knowing how they evolved music is also knowing who was in the band;
*snip for space*

He said that he wasn't ignoring it, not that he knew about it.
Look, we can understand that they did some good stuff for music, especially grunge, but if we don't have any interest in them, why should we have to care? Show love to things you like, show indifference to things that you don't.

in this case ignoring who is in the band is ignoring music history; i.e. what they have done for evolving music. your statement is contradictory.

and why you should care? look buddy, if the whole world started caring just a little more, we'd not have half the problem with ignorance, wars etc. i can't change human nature, but i sure as hell can and will change people's attitudes towards general distaste of any given subject.

I'm sorry, but are you suggesting that if Hitler knew about Nirvana he wouldn't have started WWII?
Okay, that was forced of me, but Godwin's Law rules!
My point is that music is ultimately just an optional extra on life. If not knowing about it does not cause people to suffer or die, there is no need to know about it. Otherwise, you would have to learn everything about everything. Do you accept that ballet is a form of dance enjoyed by many? Then go memorise every important person or performance involved in ballet. Ever played cards? Go find out who first created the 52-card deck and how it became the standard. Watched cartoons as a kid? Go learn the name of Walt Disney's goddamn pet chiuaua.

There is a big difference between accepting something, and knowing about something.

Show love to things you like, show indifference to things that you don't.

hell yeah, let's promote ignorance all over! let's let children not learn new things because they don't want to. let them show indifference when they read through history so as to not accept the lessons already learned by other people, just because they don't like the color of their skin.

no. show love for the things you like, show openness for the things you don't like. what happened, happened; but only a fool would let it happen again.

That's the word I was looking for. T/Y.

PS: Please learn what a capital letter is.

 

[Lexodus]

Dave Grohl was in Nirvana?

Hopefully this'll get sorted out without too much fuss.

You didn't know? He was the drummer.

 

[Generator]

...Nobody was aware he was in GH5? This should've been taken care of a while ago.

That's kind of how I felt.

But, just so everyone knows, it isn't the fact that he died that is getting so many fans upset. It's the way he would have never agreed to such a thing, even while living. Cobain was always about being as unpopular as possible, really; that's why he hated his most popular song. Personally, I do think it's a little silly to despise your greatest claim to fame, but I also think it's disrespectful to add him in against the band's wishes. I mean, for God sake, he could be singing along to No Doubt or Garbage if people so choose!

 

[Lexodus]

It'd be hilarious if the dude was still alive somewhere, and he'd faked his own death just to rid himself of the [media] whore and the fanbase.

 

[Lexodus]

Dave Grohl was in Nirvana?

Hopefully this'll get sorted out without too much fuss.

Wait, people don't know that? This makes me feel old. Which is weird, considering that I was two years old when Kurt Cobain died.

I was almost one. In fact, I was 8 months old.

 

[userwhoquitthesite]

I would say who cares, but i know so many of you do. I dont understand WHY, of course, but i know you guys care. Nirvana SUCKED, people.

at any rate, I think everyone who gets up in arms about cobain being used as a playable charcter is stupid. Im sure everyone that thinks this hack was any good would WANT to be him (up until, ya know, shotgun versus face moment. or did he die of heroin overdose? i cant remember) and so they'll play as him and be all "yay kurt!". And everyone like ME that thinks he was an untalented hack wont play as him. Of course, I dont like guitar hero (i prefer rock band, it seems to respond better) so i wont play as him ever.

from what i know of courtney love, i am sure she signed away whatever they asked her for so she could get money. Then when whiny people started furor she twittered herself an asscover

 

[userwhoquitthesite]

It'd be hilarious if the dude was still alive somewhere, and he'd faked his own death just to rid himself of the [media] whore and the fanbase.

He and elvis are writing a screenplay together

 

[I Stomp on Kittens]

Dave Grohl was in Nirvana?

You were unaware of that? OMG I think for ounce I may be smarter than you! Mwuhahahaha! the world is mine!

 

[SonicKoala]

Nirvana is just a band.

Kurt Cobain was just a singer.

Get the hell over it already.

He killed himself because he was depressed about exactly this sort of thing happening.

He killed himself because he was depressed over people having fun with a video game! :O

No, he was an idiot druggy. ANYONE who commits suicide and leaves behind his wife and child, deserves no ones respect or admiration or sympathy.

Nirvana were just a band.
The beatles, just a band.
Led Zeppelin, just a band.
The next big thing, will be just a band.

Wow, talk about a lack of sympathy. You really know nothing about his life (very few people do), but looking at it as so black and white is just ignorant. No, he wasn't just an "idiot druggy". He clearly had severe emotional and psychological problems (not to mention health problems, which is actually why he turned to heroin in the first place, as a painkiller - that much I know), and so just dismissing his situation as you did is wrong.

As for your "just a band" comments, music can have a huge impact on society, regardless of how you seem to want to marginalize their impacts. Although this is less extreme with Nirvana and Led Zeppelin, calling The Beatles just a band is so wrong in so many ways. Their impact on youth around the world was immense, even in places like the Soviet Union. There's a reason that the Beatles are held in such high esteem.

 

[theklng]

My point is that music is ultimately just an optional extra on life. If not knowing about it does not cause people to suffer or die, there is no need to know about it. Otherwise, you would have to learn everything about everything.

and how would learning new things be a bad thing? god forbid, people might turn into rational human beings instead of spreading prejudice, ignorance and so on. wars could have been settled diplomatically. the earth would have more resources.

but no, let's forget about all that. let's instead just believe that global warming isn't real or that all foreigners are automatically bad people that take our jobs. if we stick our heads into the ground, the dangers around us don't exist... right?

Do you accept that ballet is a form of dance enjoyed by many? Then go memorise every important person or performance involved in ballet. Ever played cards? Go find out who first created the 52-card deck and how it became the standard. Watched cartoons as a kid? Go learn the name of Walt Disney's goddamn pet chiuaua.

don't be ridiculous. nobody will care what pet disney had as it is out of the equation; memorizing unnecessary details won't get you anywhere. the card argument is completely valid, especially understand how you can play cards better or if you want to create new card games. it gives insight into mechanics. if you have to repair a car and had no prior experience with engines, you'd probably not know how to repair it. however, had you looked into engines of other cars, you'd have a significant advantage due to what you previous learned.

if you listen to music, then music history will give you insight into how music developed, and based on that, what other music you might like. even better, it gives you a general understanding of how progress works, which can again be abstracted to almost anything. you deny yourself this lesson because of disinterest, you limit yourself to prejudice and ignorance.

That's the word I was looking for. T/Y.

was it really? you know, in word association there are many thousand words that could have better described what you meant; since indifference is in the opposite sphere of openness. to me this looks more like you try to cover up your own mistake, especially considering the paragraphs you wrote in that same post.

PS: Please learn what a capital letter is.

thanks but i know what a capital letter is. here is how much i care:

 

[tehroc]

It's a bit bloody late now, Courtney. In any cae, the whole Guitar Hero and Rock Band circus is a continuation of the total sell-out of rock music: it comes as no surprise to have Kurt Cobain as an unlockable chracter, even if it goes against his image.
Courtney Love is so hated, anyway, that people will even side with a conglomerate like Activision over her: and that is real hate.

Complete garbage, Nirvana was mainstream for years. Cobain was a sellout just like Metallica. Cobain killed himself cause he was a heroin junkie with a worthless wife, despite having it all, he had nothing and took a cowards way out.

 

[Meado]

My point is that music is ultimately just an optional extra on life. If not knowing about it does not cause people to suffer or die, there is no need to know about it. Otherwise, you would have to learn everything about everything.

and how would learning new things be a bad thing? god forbid, people might turn into rational human beings instead of spreading prejudice, ignorance and so on. wars could have been settled diplomatically. the earth would have more resources.

but no, let's forget about all that. let's instead just believe that global warming isn't real or that all foreigners are automatically bad people that take our jobs. if we stick our heads into the ground, the dangers around us don't exist... right?

1) I never said more knowledge was a bad thing, just that it wasn't necessary.
2) Don't bring racism into this.
3) Ignoring global warming (assuming everything said about it is true) will eventually cause people to suffer and die, so it falls under what I said.

Do you accept that ballet is a form of dance enjoyed by many? Then go memorise every important person or performance involved in ballet. Ever played cards? Go find out who first created the 52-card deck and how it became the standard. Watched cartoons as a kid? Go learn the name of Walt Disney's goddamn pet chiuaua.

don't be ridiculous. nobody will care what pet disney had as it is out of the equation; memorizing unnecessary details won't get you anywhere. the card argument is completely valid, especially understand how you can play cards better or if you want to create new card games. it gives insight into mechanics. if you have to repair a car and had no prior experience with engines, you'd probably not know how to repair it. however, had you looked into engines of other cars, you'd have a significant advantage due to what you previous learned.

if you listen to music, then music history will give you insight into how music developed, and based on that, what other music you might like. even better, it gives you a general understanding of how progress works, which can again be abstracted to almost anything. you deny yourself this lesson because of disinterest, you limit yourself to prejudice and ignorance.

4) The pet comment was an exageration, meant to be viewed as humorous and then discarded as worthless.
5) Yes, looking into music history will give you additional insight. Fine. Not disputing that (I still don't get how knowing every member of Metallica can prevent prejudice, but screw it). However, doing so is just an additional option in an already optional pasttime. You don't need to know how music's made to enjoy listening to it. I'm listening to music right now, and though I couldn't tell you the name of the song without looking, I'm still enjoying it.

That's the word I was looking for. T/Y.

was it really? you know, in word association there are many thousand words that could have better described what you meant; since indifference is in the opposite sphere of openness. to me this looks more like you try to cover up your own mistake, especially considering the paragraphs you wrote in that same post.

You can believe me or not. Your choice.