Fox News' Take on The English Riots and the English in General.

[Calbeck]

It doesn't take a welfare system for douchebags to feel entitled.

This is likely the most intelligent thing anyone could possibly say on the subject.

They should all be shot!.. And their families! (I rebalanced the internet just in time!)

I agree!...oh wait, you said SHOT. I read that as SHOD.

I figured you meant they could use some decent shoes...

 

[Naeras]

So they didn't blame video games, even after other media reported that it was because of GTA all along?
I'd be impressed if it wasn't for the fact that they're still blatantly wrong.

 

[Woodsey]

No.

Most of it kicked off down to some nutter waving a gun about and being shot down by the police, then a bunch of oppurtunists stuck in after the initial wave had smashed shops open, and now a few people have got it in their heads that they're fighting for something.,

And if they were fighting for anything its the reduction of jobs and the decline in public services (we have this strange notion over here where we view health care as a right, shocking really), not their benefits.

I can't blame the rioters. Everything on the news (Not Fox, I said news) is about how all these people are criminals, scum, will face the "full feeling of the law!" and such. Right from the start the British govt has seemed like it was pushing an us vs them attitude.

If I'm one of these folks, and I'm guilty suddenly because of my social standing, then I might as well go out and have some fun at least. If nothing else, I might cause some rich asshole insurance company owner to have to pay out a little.

You can only shit on the underclasses so long before something like this happens. People are quick to point out this isn't political, somehow making it less important or more selfish. But all riots basically boil down to the same thing. I expect we'll see more.

Alternatively you might murder some people, burn down a few independent businesses, nearly gouge out a police officer's eye, get arrested, go to hospital, etc. etc.

No one blames you by way of social class. The us vs. them attitude is against the rioters, who are of a bewilderingly large cross-section of classes, professions and races.

What moron thinks they're going to help themselves in their country by getting a criminal record and costing everyone else?

I don't agree with the budget cuts or any of the attitudes of the current government towards the rich and poor, but I disagree with rioting moronic twats even less. Real people who are struggling will be spending all their time looking for jobs, not stealing TVs and ensuring they don't get a job because any potential employers can see they act like animals at the nearest opportunity.

 

[uzo]

Disenfranchised youth don't rob an injured kid. These are crim scum, probably bragging about the shit they've done right now, and the sooner the police open fire the better. Fucking scumbags who are shithouse teens, and will grow to be shithouse adults. No. Doubt.

 

[SeriousIssues]

No, the riots just happened because English people are totally dickheads.

 

[Dags90]

If Fox ever report on a story in the manner of a legitimate news network and not a platform for right-wing propaganda, then perhaps we'll be willing to treat them with some modicum of authenticity. Until that day comes, Fox News is kind of like the recalcitrant 5 year old banging his head against the wall for our attention. It's not going to elicit anything more than a disparaging sigh and they're only serving hurt themselves in the process.

Shepard Smith's reporting on Hurricane Katrina was widely praised by pretty much everyone. He took the Bush administration to task for the absolutely terrible government response as his co-hosts tried to gloss over it.

 

[The-Epicly-Named-Man]

Really? That's what they think they're rioting about? Are they literally just picking up two topics they think are wrong and trying to fit them together now?

 

[OmniscientOstrich]

Shepard Smith's reporting on Hurricane Katrina was widely praised by pretty much everyone. He took the Bush administration to task for the absolutely terrible government response as his co-hosts tried to gloss over it.

And there's the problem, the minute anyone starts going against a conservative stance on matters then they have to be quelled or dismissed by those around them or their viewers might start getting suspicious that those filthy liberals have taken over. Okay, I may have engaged in slight hyperbole to suggest that they have never in their history done a report like an actual news company, but the bias is so blisteringly and painfully apparent in almost every story they produce that it's impossible to take them seriously.

 

[Sovvolf]

while the right in the UK also like to present this narrative and people often present anecdotal evidence to support it if you actually seek out the figures as produced by the government run and apolitical Office for National Statistics (as opposed to the figures presented by the poltical parties) it does not reflect reality.

the truth is is that there is a hell of a lot of "churn" at the low end of the job market because you have to constantly apply for low end work (that inherently doesn't have much job security) to even get unemployment benefits. if you don't you get nothing. they stop all your money dead.

people like to think the unemployed are feckless and "slip under the rug" but actually nothing could be further from the truth. the government in the form of the Employment Service is positively draconian.

http://www.channel4.com/news/welfare-reform-is-benefits-culture-a-myth

Being on the dole isn't quite as easy as many think and I hate this stereotype that everyone on job seekers allowance is just some lazy sprog who doesn't want to work. Though some of it is true, I've seen these people and it does indeed piss me off when I see it. However (this is probably also anecdotal) I've seen plenty of people including myself who hate being on it and try hard to get work however depending on where you live and the qualifications you have, its a long shot.

£50 a week isn't much and I honestly feel both embarrassed and ashamed when I withdraw the money from the bank of I have to tell people that I'm on it. However, there truly isn't any jobs where I live, least for people like me. If you've got qualifications in like brick laying, decorating or welding you might stand a chance or if you have the experience and qualifications to do manager work. Most don't, so its going with factory work if you can get it or as said lower end jobs but even they don't come up as often as people think.

That and yeah, you can't just sit on your arse and do nothing to get paid, you really have to be actively seeking work. Like going out and finding it. Sure there's people that manipulate it and as said it pisses me off to see people manipulating it when there's people out there genuinely looking for work.

However I see greater benefits in it being there than not. Without that, I imagine they'd be a greater amount of muggins and a greater amount of homeless. Specially if they live in a town like mine where there's a (relatively) high population but low amount of areas for work.

As for the story, its nonsense. Just a bunch of idiots doing it because they can. Same type of idiots that would burn a car out or go around town hitting people if there's a group of them... Just idiots.

 

[thisbymaster]

From what I have heard from outside the BBC these are race riots, being covered up by only showing pictures of the opposite races. I have also heard that this was started because of class welfare, the poor are being pushed out of the center of towns as they can no long afford to live there. But mostly speculation.

 

[omega 616]

So, I was typing an essay on my laptop, sitting in the living room, when my dad turned on Fox News then left to get the mail. The nice people over at Fox News were discussing the English riots. I started to listen to their discussion on the subject, because I havent been following it at all and I descided to share what I could gather from what they were saying.
It seemed like they were saying that the riots were caused by wellfare. They were saying that there's a big population in England of two parent families (and other kinds of families too) who haven't worked a day in 15 years, because they were able to live of wellfare. And the kids growing up on wellfare developed an entitled attitude, that they were entitled to stuff. Now that the wellfare is drying up (I have no idea what your guy's wellfare status is, just saying) those same kids are taking to the streets to take what they feel entitled to.
Is there any truth to that at all?
Please dont just say that the people at Fox News are crazy, its a discussion killer.
And please dont shoot the messanger, Im only sharing what I heard.

There is a hint of truth to it, that has to be a first for fox.

There is a show on in England called "Shameless" and at the end it says something like "we maybe losers but you pay taxes", families can and do live on nothing but welfare for there entire lives quite easily.

They pay you £50 a week for food and bills, they give you so much money per kid to feed, they give you £500 for a new born, you get your rent and council tax paid in full and a few others.

I have signed on (and will again soon) and all you have to do get benefits is write down what jobs searches you have done in 2 weeks and go into the office. You can make it up and still get the money.

I used to wake up, think of 3 shops and write down that I had applied to them. They never checked up or anything and I got £101 something a fortnight.

The bit about them feeling entitled is total bollocks, they take it 'cos there parents are work shy fucks, so they have no motivation to work. People who live around them are in the same situation so there kids know each other, them kids form gangs who all try to be "cool" which means always trying to out do each other and when kids get bored they destroy.

So there growing up with no work ethic, lazy parents and in an anti social gang so when they hear other people are looting they join in 'cos why not.

 

[pppppppppppppppppp]

I'd write a long, boring rant defending welfare as a concept, but I'm just too damn tired.

I'll just say that even if Fox is party right about this, the fact that no one trusts them really shows their usual bad behavior. Reminds me of the boy who cried wolf liberal agenda.

 

[funguy2121]

another fine example of Fox not doing the research!
it boggles my mind that nobody sued them for straight up lying!

Can't sue people for lying, or else everyone there would be spending life sentences behind bars. Lie #1: Sean Hannity actually likes his own hair. Lie #2: Ann Coulter is biologically female.

 

[Wintermoot]

another fine example of Fox not doing the research!
it boggles my mind that nobody sued them for straight up lying!

Can't sue people for lying, or else everyone there would be spending life sentences behind bars. Lie #1: Sean Hannity actually likes his own hair. Lie #2: Ann Coulter is biologically female.

still a news station should be required to do research.

 

[Taham]

Errr... it's one reason for the riots, but there are others as well. It is true you can live off welfare, but most of the rioters have decent jobs, and are just doing it because... ummm... well, there doesn't actually seem to be a reason.

 

[Sizzle Montyjing]

From what I have heard from outside the BBC these are race riots, being covered up by only showing pictures of the opposite races. I have also heard that this was started because of class welfare, the poor are being pushed out of the center of towns as they can no long afford to live there. But mostly speculation.

That's bullshit.
These people are just pricks, who are greedy and enjoy looting.
The excuse that thye used was the police shot some guy who shot at them, but then it escalated because people are pricks.

 

[Griffolion]

It doesn't take a welfare system for douchebags to feel entitled.

This. I'm pretty sure the lenient welfare system contributed to the rather entitled attitude some people take on in our country. But the looting was caused by roughly 90% douchebaggery with a squeeze of complete-and-utter-prickery.

Although, with it being Fox News, I was surprised they didn't blame 'them darn gays' or something like that.