France Accuses Scientologists of Fraud

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Orekoya

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JWAN said:
uppitycracker said:
Kukul said:
What about USA?
When will your goverment make $cientology illegal?
Or are there already too many $cientologists in power to do that?
I think you pretty much nailed it right there
its a church, what do you want us to do about it?
*cough* Stop recognizing it as a church when its more of a cult [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult]? Just because an organization wants to call itself a church doesn't make it one. I can't just file myself legally as the Church of Orekoya of Later Daytime Gamers for tax exemption for all the cash I want to swindle others out of.
 

JWAN

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Orekoya said:
JWAN said:
uppitycracker said:
Kukul said:
What about USA?
When will your goverment make $cientology illegal?
Or are there already too many $cientologists in power to do that?
I think you pretty much nailed it right there
its a church, what do you want us to do about it?
*cough* Stop recognizing it as a church when its more of a cult [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult]? Just because an organization wants to call itself a church doesn't make it one. I can't just file myself legally as the Church of Orekoya of Later Daytime Gamers for tax exemption for all the cash I want to swindle others out of.
actually, you could
 

666thHeretic

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I never thought I would say this, but go France. I'm hoping Canada follows this trend next (the US probably never will).
 

Jharry5

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The French have done something that most other countries would probably never have the guts to do. Never thought I'd say that, or what I'm about to...
But, go France!
 

Arbre

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Orekoya said:
JWAN said:
uppitycracker said:
Kukul said:
What about USA?
When will your goverment make $cientology illegal?
Or are there already too many $cientologists in power to do that?
I think you pretty much nailed it right there
its a church, what do you want us to do about it?
*cough* Stop recognizing it as a church when its more of a cult [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult]? Just because an organization wants to call itself a church doesn't make it one. I can't just file myself legally as the Church of Orekoya of Later Daytime Gamers for tax exemption for all the cash I want to swindle others out of.
And because a Church is called as such by some, it's more legit than a Cult?
Because of... size?
Like, you know, my penis is bigger than yours so... eh?

Heck, some people still worship Ra (in a monotheistic way) in small numbers, yet this was very common a long time ago.

Your logic is obviously faulty.

The reason of this is simple: established, popular and large scale cults and sects don't like competition, and don't want to see a new current with some significant momentum grow on the faith market. Period.

As far as I'm concerned, It's all bullshit.

And all of you with your "Go France" are just missing the whole point. Plain and simple.
 

nova18

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I accuse France of fraud.


Btw, I love how the V Guy Fawkes mask is an internation sign for anonymous protesting.
God bless the power of film and comic.

I would make a constructive comment on this story but I believe that one more country is adding to the anti-scientology hysteria which in effect is making the group more popular.
 

Anton P. Nym

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Scientia said:
1) You are a spirit, a soul.
And I'm buy-y-ing... a stairway... to heaven. *power glissando* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stairway_to_Heaven]

-- Steve

PS: and, for an encore, Eartha Kitt singing Love For Sale [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_for_Sale].
 

Rath709

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So under the scientology policy of "fair game", they will now be taking on the whole of France?
 

jemborg

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Scientia said:
1) You are a spirit, a soul.
In other words Escapist... you have been warned we are watching you.

Arbre said:
The reason of this is simple: established, popular and large scale cults and sects don't like competition, and don't want to see a new current with some significant momentum grow on the faith market. Period.

As far as I'm concerned, It's all bullshit.
Ditto.

Also to the silly idiots banging on about WW2 etc. America did not bother to join the war till the Japs bombed them in Pearl Harbour- until then they were quite happily making money off it selling shit to both sides. Also, France saved the Yanks' arse in their war of independence, blockading the English ships' retreat- so get some perspective.

And to the guy who says John Travolta's a nice person... in a serious interview show in Australia called "Enough Rope" the interviewer asked what his title "Supreme Master of Time and Space" actually meant- typically he brushed it off. Later the interviewer wrote " I have never seen anyone turn off so fast after an interview- it was like a switch was pulled". so get over it, he's an ACTOR for christssakes.
 

Orekoya

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Arbre said:
Orekoya said:
JWAN said:
uppitycracker said:
Kukul said:
What about USA?
When will your goverment make $cientology illegal?
Or are there already too many $cientologists in power to do that?
I think you pretty much nailed it right there
its a church, what do you want us to do about it?
*cough* Stop recognizing it as a church when its more of a cult [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult]? Just because an organization wants to call itself a church doesn't make it one. I can't just file myself legally as the Church of Orekoya of Later Daytime Gamers for tax exemption for all the cash I want to swindle others out of.
And because a Church is called as such by some, it's more legit than a Cult?
Because of... size?
Like, you know, my penis is bigger than yours so... eh?

Heck, some people still worship Ra (in a monotheistic way) in small numbers, yet this was very common a long time ago.

Your logic is obviously faulty.

The reason of this is simple: established, popular and large scale cults and sects don't like competition, and don't want to see a new current with some significant momentum grow on the faith market. Period.

As far as I'm concerned, It's all bullshit.

And all of you with your "Go France" are just missing the whole point. Plain and simple.
Thanks for attacking me personally over penises, it was cute. And you even called my logic faulty with it.

Look, everyone knows the battlefield of religion is covered with an amount of bullshit that shames the world's supply of manure-based fertilizer. But there are key defining legal differences between what qualifies as a church and cult.

What qualifies as a cult?
#1 People are put in physically or emotionally distressing situations to cloud judgment.
#2 Their members' problems are reduced to one simple explanation, which is repeatedly over-emphasized.
#3 They receive unconditional love, acceptance, and attention from a local charismatic leader or offered those things as the final reward from the supreme leader.
#4 They have to adopt a new identity based on the group.
#5 They are subject to entrapment (isolation from friends, relatives, the mainstream culture, and/or any other potential influences).
#6 The access to information (such as scripture and tenets) is severely controlled and usually not free.

Yes, most if not all churches can qualify for it if you shoehorn it enough. But size isn't the qualifer for it is a church or a cult, but intention.
 

TsunamiWombat

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HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHhahahahHAHAHAHAH

*gasp*

Oh god, France regrows it's balls just in time for a move of pure win.
 

szaleniec1000

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Not surprised France is the first country to do this - as I understand it they've always taken a hard line when it comes to cults. Let's hope we're not far behind.
 

gmer412

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The catholic church recently reinstated the practice of indulgences (paying your way to salvation). Hmmm... this could get interesting.
 

WolfLordAndy

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gmer412 said:
The catholic church recently reinstated the practice of indulgences (paying your way to salvation). Hmmm... this could get interesting.
But they also just said that "yes, evolution did happen, cause god made things change over time" or some such.
 

John Tacos

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It's sad they beat the others to the punch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_hX03pqlDU
Are you french Clyde?
 

runedeadthA

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Im glad someones finally doing this, Scientology has been manipulating the law in their favour for to long. +1 Rep to the French.