France Accuses Scientologists of Fraud

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minarri

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I always used to amuse myself by thinking of the French as a bunch of spineless twats but reading this, I've gained a new respect for them.
 

Radelaide

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Scientologist? Fraudulent? What?

What lies are you spreading now Root?


But seriously, why haven't more people done this? They're a bunch of fake, money-making cultists who take advantage of vulnerable people. It's not right.
 

Simriel

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Way to go France! For the first time in history lets follow their example!!!
 

Radelaide

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Jumplion said:
What exactly is Scientology? I never entirely understood what it was supposed to be.
It's a "religion" made up by a science fiction writer.

That should tell you everything you need to know.
 

Arbre

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Radelaide said:
Jumplion said:
What exactly is Scientology? I never entirely understood what it was supposed to be.
It's a "religion" made up by a science fiction writer.

That should tell you everything you need to know.
Yeah, just like Jesus or fucking Anakin. What difference does it make, if it was written by a SF novelist or by a bunch of primitives thousands of years ago who didn't even understand lightning, praytell?
 

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Arbre said:
Radelaide said:
Jumplion said:
What exactly is Scientology? I never entirely understood what it was supposed to be.
It's a "religion" made up by a science fiction writer.

That should tell you everything you need to know.
Yeah, just like Jesus or fucking Anakin. What difference does it make, if it was written by a SF novelist or by a bunch of primitives thousands of years ago who didn't even understand lightning, praytell?
Christianity doesn't require you to shun all your family who aren't scientologists Christians, refuse life saving medication or "donate" millions of dollars to get into the damned thing. That's the difference.

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Arbre

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Radelaide said:
Arbre said:
Radelaide said:
Jumplion said:
What exactly is Scientology? I never entirely understood what it was supposed to be.
It's a "religion" made up by a science fiction writer.

That should tell you everything you need to know.
Yeah, just like Jesus or fucking Anakin. What difference does it make, if it was written by a SF novelist or by a bunch of primitives thousands of years ago who didn't even understand lightning, praytell?
Christianity doesn't require you to shun all your family who aren't scientologists Christians, refuse life saving medication or "donate" millions of dollars to get into the damned thing. That's the difference.

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People quickly forget how Vatican got so rich in the beginning. It would be a joke to hear them lecture people on tolerance, altruism and peace.
 

Radelaide

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Arbre said:
Radelaide said:
Arbre said:
Radelaide said:
Jumplion said:
What exactly is Scientology? I never entirely understood what it was supposed to be.
It's a "religion" made up by a science fiction writer.

That should tell you everything you need to know.
Yeah, just like Jesus or fucking Anakin. What difference does it make, if it was written by a SF novelist or by a bunch of primitives thousands of years ago who didn't even understand lightning, praytell?
Christianity doesn't require you to shun all your family who aren't scientologists Christians, refuse life saving medication or "donate" millions of dollars to get into the damned thing. That's the difference.

Edited.
People quickly forget how Vatican got so rich in the beginning. It would be a joke to hear them lecture people on tolerance, altruism and peace.
That's over hundreds of years! There is tonnes of differences between Christianity and Scientology. I don't believe in Christianity, but at least there is some theoretical evidence of Christianity's origins.

There are serious flaws in Scientology and it's beliefs.
 

jdnoth

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Oh great. Give those /b/tard idiots another reason to whore attention why don't you.
 

M3707ik

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ok im not a scientologist.
But, uh, isnt the whole point of tolarence to not say these kinds of things. I mean any scientologist who saw this relentless stream of bull crap would have left the escapist community.
And theres nothing wrong with france, before this mess, or after this mess.
 

meatloaf231

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M3707ik said:
ok im not a scientologist.
But, uh, isnt the whole point of tolarence to not say these kinds of things. I mean any scientologist who saw this relentless stream of bull crap would have left the escapist community.
And theres nothing wrong with france, before this mess, or after this mess.
See, tolerance of religion doesn't apply to Scientology, because they're not a real religion. It was originally a self-help program made up by a failed science fiction author who proceeded to steal 12 million (or so) from his own "church." It's currently a money-sink that encourages the attacking of those who criticize it.
 

Trivun

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I would go to that trial wearing a V mask, but why bother? We know that France will win simply because the jury, and every other sane person on the planet, knows that Scientology is a scam and only believed by idiots. Yes, Tom Cruise was good in Cocktail and Top Gun, and a few others, but he's still an idiot.

Sorry, where was I? Oh yes, ranting about Tom Cruise Scientology. Yeah, they're idiots and scam artists, the whole lot of them. The ones who got out should be applauded. Well done to them. Anyway, why be anonymous either? I want Scientology to know that we're all against them... and I always did like the French to some extent as well. Even though I'm British, the only problem I had with them was their attitude to war (i.e. something relating to a famous Coldplay song... cookie for the guess and the win).
 

M3707ik

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okay. but ur gunna get the same reaction if u tell that to a scientologist or a cristian
 

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Trivun said:
Even though I'm British, the only problem I had with them was their attitude to war (i.e. something relating to a famous Coldplay song... cookie for the guess and the win).
Would it be "Yellow", as in "Yellow-Bellied Coward"?
 

Trivun

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Meado said:
Trivun said:
Even though I'm British, the only problem I had with them was their attitude to war (i.e. something relating to a famous Coldplay song... cookie for the guess and the win).
Would it be "Yellow", as in "Yellow-Bellied Coward"?
Yep, you get an epic win flavoured choc-chip cookie. Make it last though, else it'll spoil your dinner :p
 

Arbre

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Radelaide said:
That's over hundreds of years!
Yes, they have been doing it for that long. Precisely.

There is tonnes of differences between Christianity and Scientology. I don't believe in Christianity, but at least there is some theoretical evidence of Christianity's origins.
Actually, there is some factual evidence of Christianity's origins.
We know or estimate how and when it roughly birthed and bloomed.
Now, considering that Scientology is fairly recent, there's technically far more facts about it than about Christianity.
That's probably also why it's less mystic, esoteric in its roots, and doesn't feel like a religion, but a grotesque and pretentious simile that lacks the divine element in it.
There's truth in that. But religion per se doesn't require a god.

There are serious flaws in Scientology and it's beliefs.
Like in any, no? Christianity has come a long way, I suppose, but its fundamentalists are no better than the Scientology's. The difference being that as a mainstream religion which is actually broken down into many variants, there's a lot of moderate faith going on.
A cult, before going large, cannot survive if its core is moderate.
Christianity couldn't survive if its own core was moderate. If it did, if it was watered down, it would not be seen as the strong leading and luminous tower that shines faith all over the world anymore. The former moderates would lose confidence in this current, feel the weakness, and probably shift faith or just drop it all at once.
Of course for me, absolutely all is BS.
 
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Arbre said:
Actually, there is some factual evidence of Christianity's origins.
There's factual evidence of Scientology's origins.
"I'd like to start a religion. That's where the money is!" - L.Ron Hubbard (1949)
 

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Sylocat said:
I have gained new respect for the French.
You can always trust the french to take to the streets and kick up a fuss when the rest of the west can't be arsed.

In France the govt fears the people, in Britain and USA we have it the other way around, worth respecting imo.