frat boy mentality-a plague on the gaming industry?

[Canadamus Prime]

Hate to break it to you pal, but high definition graphics are a must and thats the way it should be.

I beg to differ. High Definition graphics are bullshit and don't add anything to the gaming experience.

 

[inquisiti0n]

Hate to break it to you pal, but high definition graphics are a must and thats the way it should be.

I beg to differ. High Definition graphics are bullshit and don't add anything to the gaming experience.

You must have vision problems then.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Hate to break it to you pal, but high definition graphics are a must and thats the way it should be.

I beg to differ. High Definition graphics are bullshit and don't add anything to the gaming experience.

You must have vision problems then.

Nothing corrective lenses can't fix.

 

[walrusaurus]

Why am i writing this? Two weeks ago, I went in to Gamestop to get my reserve of Devil Survivor Overclocked, I looked around and noticed the game wasnt even on the shelf. It took the cashier ten minutes to find the game and when he did, he says he couldn't find it because, and I quote "It looked like another generic weeaboo game". Then I show him my preorder slip and he looked at it to see where the current game was and to see what other games I preordered and he had a disgusted look on his face like i had preordered every generic movie based game ever.

This is why God gave us Steam.

EDIT: Turns out Steam was made Valve, not God... the more you know.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Hate to break it to you pal, but high definition graphics are a must and thats the way it should be.

I beg to differ. High Definition graphics are bullshit and don't add anything to the gaming experience.

Yes, they do. They look good. Are graphics the sole, most important thing in a game? No, but they are important none the less. Back in the day Crysis was praised pretty much only for its graphics. If it had been released with mediocre looks no one would remember it.

And you don't see that as a problem. That the game's only distinguishing memorable feature is that it "looked nice." It didn't add anything to either it's genre or gaming as a whole, it just merely "looked nice."

Have you never looked at a game and said: "Fucking hell, its beautiful. Im going to keep on playing it because it looks so good"?

No, I kinda expect more out of my games than fancy visuals.

Well, maybe you didnt, and maybe you spend your leisure time playing games from 1990 exclusively. But surely you wouldnt be so foolish as to think that just because youre that way, the entire industry should cater to your opinion, right?

No, of course not! However this High Definition bullshit takes me to a whole new level of bewildered. I've played my Xbox360 in both standard and high definition and I can't honestly say I noticed any significant difference. Certainly not a difference that warrants the excessive torrents of drooling over HD that gush from dozens of gamers such as yourself. So every time I find people gushing over HD I want to facedesk so hard that it leaves a permanent imprint.

 

[Fieldy409_v1legacy]

Hate to break it to you pal, but high definition graphics are a must and thats the way it should be.

I beg to differ. High Definition graphics are bullshit and don't add anything to the gaming experience.

Yes, they do. They look good. Are graphics the sole, most important thing in a game? No, but they are important none the less. Back in the day Crysis was praised pretty much only for its graphics. If it had been released with mediocre looks no one would remember it.

And you don't see that as a problem. That the game's only distinguishing memorable feature is that it "looked nice." It didn't add anything to either it's genre or gaming as a whole, it just merely "looked nice."

Have you never looked at a game and said: "Fucking hell, its beautiful. Im going to keep on playing it because it looks so good"?

No, I kinda expect more out of my games than fancy visuals.

Well, maybe you didnt, and maybe you spend your leisure time playing games from 1990 exclusively. But surely you wouldnt be so foolish as to think that just because youre that way, the entire industry should cater to your opinion, right?

No, of course not! However this High Definition bullshit takes me to a whole new level of bewildered. I've played my Xbox360 in both standard and high definition and I can't honestly say I noticed any significant difference. Certainly not a difference that warrants the excessive torrents of drooling over HD that gush from dozens of gamers such as yourself. So every time I find people gushing over HD I want to facedesk so hard that it leaves a permanent imprint.

No significant difference? What? I remember when I upgraded to hd and when I went back to playing games that I'd played in sd I was amazed. In halo i couldn't believe the amount of little details on the ghost and the chopper. And in oblivion I remember pulling out the silver longsword and being shocked by the engravings in it I had never seen before. Then I had to go and look at all the details in the world again.

 

[Saelune]

Wow. I would have gone off on that Gamestop guy. Im lucky, the ones at my gamestop are real hardcore gamers.

 

[RaikuFA]

Why am i writing this? Two weeks ago, I went in to Gamestop to get my reserve of Devil Survivor Overclocked, I looked around and noticed the game wasnt even on the shelf. It took the cashier ten minutes to find the game and when he did, he says he couldn't find it because, and I quote "It looked like another generic weeaboo game". Then I show him my preorder slip and he looked at it to see where the current game was and to see what other games I preordered and he had a disgusted look on his face like i had preordered every generic movie based game ever.

This is why God gave us Steam.

EDIT: Turns out Steam was made Valve, not God... the more you know.

but valve is a type of god soooooo yeah. either way devil survivor overclocked is a 3ds game

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Spoiler: *snip*

Hate to break it to you pal, but high definition graphics are a must and thats the way it should be.

I beg to differ. High Definition graphics are bullshit and don't add anything to the gaming experience.

Yes, they do. They look good. Are graphics the sole, most important thing in a game? No, but they are important none the less. Back in the day Crysis was praised pretty much only for its graphics. If it had been released with mediocre looks no one would remember it.

And you don't see that as a problem. That the game's only distinguishing memorable feature is that it "looked nice." It didn't add anything to either it's genre or gaming as a whole, it just merely "looked nice."

Have you never looked at a game and said: "Fucking hell, its beautiful. Im going to keep on playing it because it looks so good"?

No, I kinda expect more out of my games than fancy visuals.

Well, maybe you didnt, and maybe you spend your leisure time playing games from 1990 exclusively. But surely you wouldnt be so foolish as to think that just because youre that way, the entire industry should cater to your opinion, right?

No, of course not! However this High Definition bullshit takes me to a whole new level of bewildered. I've played my Xbox360 in both standard and high definition and I can't honestly say I noticed any significant difference. Certainly not a difference that warrants the excessive torrents of drooling over HD that gush from dozens of gamers such as yourself. So every time I find people gushing over HD I want to facedesk so hard that it leaves a permanent imprint.

No significant difference? What? I remember when I upgraded to hd and when I went back to playing games that I'd played in sd I was amazed. In halo i couldn't believe the amount of little details on the ghost and the chopper. And in oblivion I remember pulling out the silver longsword and being shocked by the engravings in it I had never seen before. Then I had to go and look at all the details in the world again.

Not significant enough to warrant all the gushing it gets, no. Maybe I'm just playing all the wrong games, or my TV just has too good a picture so that I can't tell much of difference btwn SD and HD, but whatever the case may be I still don't think it warrants people gushing over it like it's the second coming of FUCKING CHRIST!!

[sub]Sorry, my exasperation over the whole thing is getting to me.[/sub]

 

[dyre]

I don't see this as much of a problem, really. People who want to play for graphics will continue to do so, and the rest of us will see it as a secondary concern. It's not like anyone decides what games they buy based on IGN or Gamespot reviews anyway.

 

[Vamantha]

I wouldn't be very pleased either if the asshat I bought a game from gave me a nasty look. Thankfully, the people working at the Gamestop I go too don't fuck with me EVER. They let me buy my cheesy Harvest Moon games and let me get on with my life. Is there anywhere else you can shop where you live? I only ask because rude service doesn't deserve to get paid.

Onto the main topic, I think the gaming industry is safe. Last time I checked frat boys were too busy puking into the crab infested crotch of a whore to actually play a game and give a review. I like what I like and I have long stopped caring about what people think when I tell them what game I'm playing. I dislike seeing all these re releases of old games that were good until they were remade. However you cannot blame the fact that a lot of crappy games can change a person into wanting the same over and over again for fear of getting a truly terrible game.

Graphic wise I worry about a bit that graphic will get too good or when all they do is make everything different colors of brown. *cough* Fallout 3 *cough* Not that the game itself was bad, but I had to stop playing because within an hour I was dizzy and nausea. For the future I'm seriously worried we'll all buy a "game" and the only thing you can do in that "game" is look at how pretty everything is. That's it, no movement.

 

[ChupathingyX]

You'll Know it When it Happens/Arizona Killer. How'd you pass it.

You don't have to shoot Kimball, you can bash his brains in and then skeddadle the hell out of there.

 

[b3nn3tt]

This is something thats been upsetting me lately. People acting like all games need are good graphics. Games I like that are considered "niche" are getting bad reviews based on the fact that theyre not endorsed by a redundant football announcer, theres no space marines, theres no kung fu hobo beating up russian bear wrestlers or because it dosent look like its Michael Bays latest masturabatory aide. These arent bad games(except madden because actual american football is funner and cheaper)

One of the worst examples I can come up with off of my head? Disgaea 3. got mainly mediocre reviews, but IGN gave it a 6. Why? Because it has sprite graphics. Thats all the reviewer talked about. He just kept on going on and on about how it's bad because it dosent have high definition graphics. Then it was put on their list of worst games of the year. One of my favorite series, Shin Megami Tensei is another example. It gets good reviews but it's hated by the public because "Its a Final Fantasy knockoff, brah". Even Gamestop pulls this crap off by not even putting out copies of games that are good and instead just waiting for someone to ask if they have it.

That is one review. Did all the other reviews have a similar criticism, or did they discuss the actual gameplay and story? A quick Metacritic search shows that actually Disgaea 3 [http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/disgaea-3-absence-of-justice] didn't score that much lower than last year's Madden [http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/madden-nfl-11], which is what I assume 'games based on a redundant football announcer' refers to. So critics actually seem to rate the two games as not being all that different in terms of quality.

Also, this sentence:

Even Gamestop pulls this crap off by not even putting out copies of games that are good and instead just waiting for someone to ask if they have it

rather annoys me. You're basically saying that you dislike Gamestop because they put out copies of popular games, which you consider bad, but not copies of obscure games that, as you yourself said, fit into niche categories. You also consider these games to be good. So basically you're annoyed at Gamestop for not fiting exactly to your rather specific tastes.

As Yahtzee said "I dont know how you think gaming is ever going to adapt as an art form when people go out of their way to make original games but fuckwits like you never buy them because they're too busy inhaling furious amounts of dick."

I don't know how much I agree with this, but the fact is that popular franchises will generally outsell new , original IPs because of brand recognition. There's very little that can be done about this actually.

What do you think? Is this type of mentality ruining gaming?

Nope. Not even a little.