Fuck the Critics (Sucker Punch Rant)

[Saelune]

These reviewers, from what I hear (in their review) are idiots, bad at their job, and bigots.
"I missed that, I was taking a piss" Why am I even listening to your review of a movie you did not even completly see? One thing people need to consider, both reviewers and those recieving them, is if you both are so different in view, then the review is pointless. These guys sound like they would prefer some stupid movie where a bunch of rappers pretend they actually are tough thugs.

Wow...your opinion on the Spill Crew is way different than it actually is. Bob is much less professional than they are.

Im not familiar with them, but its called a review, so I expect you to watch the whole movie.

which they did.

Did you listen to it? He said he was pissing and missed important stuff that set up the whole movie.

That's part of having a collaborative effort, if you miss the beginning, you can have someone else keep you posted on what they had missed.

Or he could back off and omit from reviewing, or re-see it all the way through. Im not going to bother with a review from someone who is bad at his job like that.

The man you are talking about is named Korey. He runs the site, edits the reviews and podcasts, animates the video reviews, as well as coordinates events for the site. Don't bother telling me that he doesn't do his job well, when you don't even know half of the behind the scenes details.

So I should not criticize something I dont fully know about? Sounds familiar...

But you're basing his job on one review, when he's been a critic for over 10 years. That's like judging something based on a single-framed imaged.

I was bashing the one review. The review was done poorly I think. I did not say every review he does is poor, cause I have not seen (heard) them. I WAS going off that one review, which was very harsh and ignorant too, which stikes a sore spot.

 

[Knife]

I think it's a little naive to think that the media has no influence on anyone. I mean if you watch a '30 min' show, you're getting 9 minutes of advertising. That adds up, especially if you watch a lot of TV, it probably easily adds up to years over some people's lifetimes.

I don't think hardly anyone who likes someone or something that's popular would tell you that they only like it to participate in whats popular or whatever. I think that they literally can't see beyond what the media puts in front of them. For instance when I was younger I didn't realise there was anything beyond what was in pop culture really, luckily I had friends who got me into some much more fufilling things, like actually meaningful music, movies, and games.

Can't really say I guess, its not like I know every person on the planet and why they like what they like. Obviously advertising has a certain influence on people otherwise noone would pay money to advertise. But its influence is mostly that of informing you not forcing an opinion on you. You may brush your teeth with Colgate or Aquafresh because thats all you see on TV but after you actually tried it you form an opinion of your own, whether its the same as the ads want you to or a different one. Its more exposure than anything else. From my experience a lot of people will try out something advertised but only a very small part of them would continue after the first time if its genuinely bad.

 

[Accountfailed]

This was all I could think about [http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=285] listening to this review.

"they should just take the punch out of this and call it sucker"
Seriously? that's your comedic style? get. OUT.

 

[Taerdin]

Can't really say I guess, its not like I know every person on the planet and why they like what they like. Obviously advertising has a certain influence on people otherwise noone would pay money to advertise. But its influence is mostly that of informing you not forcing an opinion on you. You may brush your teeth with Colgate or Aquafresh because thats all you see on TV but after you actually tried it you form an opinion of your own, whether its the same as the ads want you to or a different one. Its more exposure than anything else. From my experience a lot of people will try out something advertised but only a very small part of them would continue after the first time if its genuinely bad.

But there's this weird point where if the thing is 'good enough', then people tend to not look further. Or at least that's the way I see it. I personally have only had a couple brands of toothpaste in my life, and they are good enough.... I don't overly feel the need to go out of my way and try every other kind of toothpaste to make an informed opinion on which is best. You can't make an opinion without trying multiple things, there needs to be a basis. If I have only eaten one kind of apple in my life, I could say its a fantastic apple, but without knowing how much better golden delicious is, my opinion would be uninformed and basically useless. But if I never eat another apple in my life then I would be completely satisfied with the one I do eat.

It's possible that I give the media too much credit, but I really think that people in general don't give them enough. There has to be a reason why quality things fade, and barely passable things explode with profit and popularity, and I don't think 'bad taste' covers it. Farmville is probably the least fufilling game I can think of putting my time into, and that game has more players than any other...

 

[Knife]

But there's this weird point where if the thing is 'good enough', then people tend to not look further. Or at least that's the way I see it. I personally have only had a couple brands of toothpaste in my life, and they are good enough.... I don't overly feel the need to go out of my way and try every other kind of toothpaste to make an informed opinion on which is best. You can't make an opinion without trying multiple things, there needs to be a basis. If I have only eaten one kind of apple in my life, I could say its a fantastic apple, but without knowing how much better golden delicious is, my opinion would be uninformed and basically useless. But if I never eat another apple in my life then I would be completely satisfied with the one I do eat.

It's possible that I give the media too much credit, but I really think that people in general don't give them enough. There has to be a reason why quality things fade, and barely passable things explode with profit and popularity, and I don't think 'bad taste' covers it. Farmville is probably the least fufilling game I can think of putting my time into, and that game has more players than any other...

I think in this particular case simplicity figures a lot into it, it hardly makes you think and yet gives back a steady amount of satisfaction back at you. And if you're okay with that that's fine, but if you're not its not like anyone is stopping you from leaving and trying to find something better. I don't go around looking for the perfect toothpaste because frankly I doubt its much better than the one I currently use, and even if it is better its still quite insignificant on my list of priorities. Now when I look for a source of entertainment be it music/movie/book/video game or other it is when middle ground doesn't quite cut it anymore, I am constantly looking for something better and try to avoid 'average' stuff unless good stuff run out. In the end the media doesn't cut down your options it only adds a few good or bad and its up to every person to decide whether his needs are satisfied or not.

 

[nicebuffalo]

it pisses me off that you adopt the opinion of the first reviewer's video you see. watch the movie first, then form your opinion. btw that movie was shit.

 

[SNIPERFOX ft. Harry P.Ness]

personally, i hated the film. the action was generic & basic, and the actors were kinda hammy in my opinion. That movie is just not for me.

 

[Hatchet90]

I hold critics in high regard for what they do. I look on Rotten Tomatoes all the time, and I'll hardly ever see a movie that falls below 50 percent, unless I'm on the fence about it. I find that one shouldn't look at the tomato-meter like a grade in high school, but rather the chance that one is going to like a movie. I look at Sucker Punch and say, there's a 20% chance I'm going to like this movie... yeah not really worth my time. People who say that critics are predictable or follow a strict set of rules of what constitutes a good movie are talking out of their ass. Comedies like Get Him to the Greek, Rango, or Paul are held in high regard by critics. Even Piranha received a positive score. I saw Red Riding Hood and it was awful, and I'm sorry, but I find Movie Bob becoming less and less reliable as a "professional" critic. It seems to me that any movie with women that are scantily clad or sexually appealing is going to receive a thumbs up from MovieBob. And I can hardly trust after calling The King's Speech nothing but Oscar fodder. Especially considering his "criteria" of what makes an oscar baited movie was full of shit. Seriously, one of his criteria for oscar bait was a involving a person "overcoming something". I'm pretty sure the job of any protagonist in any story ever is overcoming something in one way or another. His comparison of Brazil to Sucker Punch was enough to send me into a nerd rage, as Brazil is probably in my top 10 movies of all time.

I occasionally will see a movie that falls below the 50% mark, and most of the time I dislike it. The last one I saw was Battle: LA (mostly because I had a free pre-screening), and I can honestly say that I will not see a worse movie this year. Then again, you're talking to a person whose friends and himself holds the Oscars in a higher regard than the Super Bowl. So yes, fuck the critics for what they do. For only YOUR opinion is the one that matters. And then go fuck yourself, for you have become that which you hate the most, a critic.

 

[Fudd]

I just came back from watching this movie and to be perfectly honest, the point of this movie is going to fly over the heads of most of the audience, critics included. I thought the movie was brilliant, not only in art direction but also in content. For all the superficial visual pandering in the movie, this is a film that does not pander where the core messages are concerned and dare I say if you do not understand the concept of the "male gaze" and have no background in or familiarity with gender studies you will not understand this movie. I am not at all surprised that critics do not like this film. I am surprised that all the reviews apart from MovieBob's so completely missed the point.

So... go see it and enjoy it on whatever level you are capable of. Personally, I fucking loved it, but I don't expect the majority of the audience to see what I saw.

 

[Vibhor]

Reminds me of The Room.
Great masterpiece, absolute work of art!
If you think the movie sucks then no, you just don't understand it.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

EDIT. I suppose I should Clarify: I am not against their stance on the film, but rather their treatment and vitrol for the audience.

Ack, I hate to do this but...you've just proved why.

How many people here would have heard of Spill? Now anyone whose read this thread will think about going there and checking out other reviews.

Mission accomplished, and all it took was a few unkind words.

That's why they did it, to feed off nerd rage.

 

[conflictofinterests]

I was really looking forward to the movie, and it surpassed all my expectations. I haven't cried at a movie in YEARS and this one brought tears to my eyes. The story was powerful, the acting was moving, the composure made SENSE, the score was masterfully implemented and entirely enchanting.

I rather dislike someone deciding that I'm a 13 year old boy (actually 20 year old woman) or somehow stupider or less perceptive than they are.

(Actually, I'm probably less perceptive. I'm one of the least perceptive I know. I don't feel like I missed too much about this movie. In fact, I might go so far as to say, this is the movie I felt I absorbed the most that there was to absorb out of all the movies I have ever seen. So I don't think that my lack of perception factors into why I like this movie.)

 

[Vibhor]

If you think the movie sucks then no, you just don't understand it.

Or, you know, their opinion is different.

*faceplam*

Some people...

Have you seen "The room"?
If not then you would not understand what I said.

 

[captaincabbage]

They're just doing their job. It's like when people start calling shit at Yahtzee. As he describes it "If I didn't point every little thing that was wrong with a game, then I'd be a shit critic". Naturally I'm paraphrasing, but you get the point.

I do have to say tho, I do think Moviebob can try and read too much into films sometimes.

 

[CommanderKirov]

Boobs and violence go well together.

It's just when you are trying to base the entire movie around it I feel a tad insulted.