Fuck the Critics (Sucker Punch Rant)

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Soviet Heavy

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Kimarous said:
Soviet Heavy said:
And it irritated me when Moviebob did that as well. I don't agree with Bob on a lot of things, but I am open to hearing others opinions, as long as they don't insult me.
So basically, this entire thread boils down to you having a pout over people saying mean words at people you identify with?
Partially, and how it is unbecoming of a critic to attack the audience when they should be telling us whether or not the film is any good. If I hear a review about Sucker Punch, I expect a review about Sucker Punch, not fifteen minutes Sucker Punch and fifteen minutes "oh those little nerds are gonna be creaming their pants because they don't know any better and they can only get a hard on if it is a chick wearing armor riding a robot!"
 

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Kimarous said:
Soviet Heavy said:
And it irritated me when Moviebob did that as well. I don't agree with Bob on a lot of things, but I am open to hearing others opinions, as long as they don't insult me.
So basically, this entire thread boils down to you having a pout over people saying mean words at people you identify with?
well maybe (not quite how i was taking it) but is it really all that much to ask that they act a little professional and not insult you because you happen to like a movie that they don't?
 

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I just came back from watching 'SuckerPunch' and just have to say this much:

If I had know this movie was from the same guy who did '300' and 'The Watchmen', I would have said I needed to go to work to get out going to watch this.

I knew (and heard) absolutely nothing about this movie before being asked to go watch it.
 

Soviet Heavy

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I just came back from watching 'SuckerPunch' and just have to say this much:

If I had know this movie was from the same guy who did '300' and 'The Watchmen', I would have said I needed to go to work to get out going to watch this.

I knew (and heard) absolutely nothing about this movie before being asked to go watch it.
And I'm okay with that. See in comparison to the review link I posted, you only showed your personal opinion, but you didn't go out of the way to insult a demographic with an outdated stereotype.

Thank you for being part of the scientific process.
 

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I think Heavy makes alot of sense.

Hell, even aside for being kind of a d--k move, insulting the people that enjoy a movie is just a plain lazy-ass way of reviewing, plain and simple.
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
Illesdan said:
I just came back from watching 'SuckerPunch' and just have to say this much:

If I had know this movie was from the same guy who did '300' and 'The Watchmen', I would have said I needed to go to work to get out going to watch this.

I knew (and heard) absolutely nothing about this movie before being asked to go watch it.
And I'm okay with that. See in comparison to the review link I posted, you only showed your personal opinion, but you didn't go out of the way to insult a demographic with an outdated stereotype.

Thank you for being part of the scientific process.
I don't believe in bashing movies just because I don't like them, and insulting the people who enjoy them would mean I am insulting just about all my friends, which is just pretty douchebaggy, if you ask me.

And, in all seriousness, 'SuckerPunch' is by no means bad; its not going to be my all-time fave, but as far as fantasy-fiction goes, you could definitely do worse.

I personally hate reading movie/television reviews; they always come off as boorish and inane. I'll stick to what I enjoy; which is following game reviews.
 

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Oh I fucking HATE professional critics. I generally have a very low view of journalists in general, but reviewers are the worst of the worst. There's this one middle-aged, bald bespectacled little manling that reviews in the paper that I get. You describe him perfectly, he hates anything that doesnt follow a strict, conformist guideline of good, and even then his column is more of an outlet for the litereary diarrhea that he gets paid to spew into my view every day than anything that would have a beneficial effect on anyone.
 

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These reviewers, from what I hear (in their review) are idiots, bad at their job, and bigots.
"I missed that, I was taking a piss" Why am I even listening to your review of a movie you did not even completly see? One thing people need to consider, both reviewers and those recieving them, is if you both are so different in view, then the review is pointless. These guys sound like they would prefer some stupid movie where a bunch of rappers pretend they actually are tough thugs.
 

teebeeohh

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a lot of critics just think they are better than others and forget that they exist to provide a service: to help people weed out which movies are worth watching
 

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ITs my opinoin that critics are all old men who hate the idea of nything different that could be popular and bring in a punch of young people who like new things. Cause those young people could be the next film critics and directors, and then stuff like The Seventh Seal, Citizen Kane, and 12 Angry Men will go the way of old yeller.
I'm sorry, but really? I can agree with "Critics are biased towards art cinema", but "I'm excited for art cinema to die out completely"?

It depresses me that in with the newly found acceptance of cult trash cinema, there's also this new attitude of "Oh? You like Kurosawa or Godard? You must be a stuck-up critic who hates genre film."

The meaning of your statement may be unintentional, but the film snob in me is offended.
 

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tomservo4prezident said:
emeraldrafael said:
ITs my opinoin that critics are all old men who hate the idea of nything different that could be popular and bring in a punch of young people who like new things. Cause those young people could be the next film critics and directors, and then stuff like The Seventh Seal, Citizen Kane, and 12 Angry Men will go the way of old yeller.
I'm sorry, but really? I can agree with "Critics are biased towards art cinema", but "I'm excited for art cinema to die out completely"?

It depresses me that in with the newly found acceptance of cult trash cinema, there's also this new attitude of "Oh? You like Kurosawa or Godard? You must be a stuck-up critic who hates genre film."

The meaning of your statement may be unintentional, but the film snob in me is offended.
What? I didnt say I was excited for anything to die out. Its just how I think Critics look at films with out a big name old school director like Scorsese arent worth the time. Next time, you should read before just launching into something
 

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emeraldrafael said:
tomservo4prezident said:
emeraldrafael said:
ITs my opinoin that critics are all old men who hate the idea of nything different that could be popular and bring in a punch of young people who like new things. Cause those young people could be the next film critics and directors, and then stuff like The Seventh Seal, Citizen Kane, and 12 Angry Men will go the way of old yeller.
I'm sorry, but really? I can agree with "Critics are biased towards art cinema", but "I'm excited for art cinema to die out completely"?

It depresses me that in with the newly found acceptance of cult trash cinema, there's also this new attitude of "Oh? You like Kurosawa or Godard? You must be a stuck-up critic who hates genre film."

The meaning of your statement may be unintentional, but the film snob in me is offended.
What? I didnt say I was excited for anything to die out. Its just how I think Critics look at films with out a big name old school director like Scorsese. Next time, you should read before just launching into something
It was just a tone thing in that last statement, and I was right in its being unintentional. I meant no insult.
 
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I have gotten pretty sick of critics calling people stupid for liking something. Especially in this case, as Sucker Punch is one of those movies that just can't really be judged as "Good" or "Bad" in the classic sense. You either liked the movie or you didn't. I loved it, but that's just me.
 

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tomservo4prezident said:
I'm sorry, but really? I can agree with "Critics are biased towards art cinema", but "I'm excited for art cinema to die out completely"?

It depresses me that in with the newly found acceptance of cult trash cinema, there's also this new attitude of "Oh? You like Kurosawa or Godard? You must be a stuck-up critic who hates genre film."

The meaning of your statement may be unintentional, but the film snob in me is offended.
Sadly, I suspect art films will go the same way as fine art. Some will remain to be appreciated by those who truly understand their greatness (much like people go see great art in museums), but it will drop out of production in favor of gratuitous violence, star-stuffed casts (Expendables, anyone?), and sexualization of media.

OT: If you don't like how a critic reviews, stop watching them. The idea of a critic is not to appeal to everyone, but to appeal to a very specific taste. This way, you have someone with similar tastes to tell you if you'll like something. If it is largely ineffective, it's your fault for choosing poorly. Look around for someone you agree with more often.
 

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I can't see what the guys from Spill.com did wrong. They are just stating an obvious. Who hasn't liked a movie at 13, due to a lack of film exposure or knowledge, only to realize years later that the movie was absolute garbage? I know I have.
 

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My personal opinion is that critics have a hard time being relevant at all and are now forced to say or do things that get reactions out of the audience. Not all, but a lot.

I like Movie Bob for example, but his opinion wouldn't sway me on a movie one way or another.
 
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Critics are a good thing. I don't want to waste my money on a crappy movie, and they also help me when I am on the fence.

They are professionals. They're opinions do mean something. Find a critic you like and trust and just listen to him.

Also sucker punch is bad...
 

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Saelune said:
These reviewers, from what I hear (in their review) are idiots, bad at their job, and bigots.
"I missed that, I was taking a piss" Why am I even listening to your review of a movie you did not even completly see? One thing people need to consider, both reviewers and those recieving them, is if you both are so different in view, then the review is pointless. These guys sound like they would prefer some stupid movie where a bunch of rappers pretend they actually are tough thugs.
Wow...your opinion on the Spill Crew is way different than it actually is. Bob is much less professional than they are.