Furries - Not Entirely Human?

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Grey Day for Elcia said:
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I can see their point, I mean humans as a whole do kind of suck. I mean Polar bears do not hat Black bears, they do not go to war, they rarely if ever kill out of spite.

I think i even participated in this poll, I did not say not human but they broke it way down and I would say on some level people relate to some form of fantastic avatar. So yeah i can totally see their point.
So you are a furry then? Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
You know that is real ambiguous question, I mean yes I would defiantly say I am but there are just so many levels. Some people say you have to go to cons or suit to be one, some say you have to feel a deep connection to an animal to the point where you feel like you are that animals in some way to be a furry, which is what the atrial is over more or less. None of

these apply to me yet I would still think I am a furry, always have been through books, video game and movies and such. Video games in particular once you make an avatar at least when I do it represents you and mine are almost never human. Even think of the races simply called "human" in most games they are always young self entitled pricks that have a few of the world best leaders but all in all are more or less the douchebags.
 

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DANEgerous said:
Grey Day for Elcia said:
DANEgerous said:
I can see their point, I mean humans as a whole do kind of suck. I mean Polar bears do not hat Black bears, they do not go to war, they rarely if ever kill out of spite.

I think i even participated in this poll, I did not say not human but they broke it way down and I would say on some level people relate to some form of fantastic avatar. So yeah i can totally see their point.
So you are a furry then? Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
You know that is real ambiguous question, I mean yes I would defiantly say I am but there are just so many levels. Some people say you have to go to cons or suit to be one, some say you have to feel a deep connection to an animal to the point where you feel like you are that animals in some way to be a furry, which is what the atrial is over more or less. None of

these apply to me yet I would still think I am a furry, always have been through books, video game and movies and such. Video games in particular once you make an avatar at least when I do it represents you and mine are almost never human. Even think of the races simply called "human" in most games they are always young self entitled pricks that have a few of the world best leaders but all in all are more or less the douchebags.
Well, the researches concluded the generally accepted terms of the furry fandom were simply an interest in anthropomorphic beings.
 

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I know, like i say I may have even taken the poll. Just pointing out the lengths people will go to so they are and you are not a "real" furry, this exists in a lot of cultures. Just like the "only hard core gamers are real gamers" mentality.
 

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DANEgerous said:
Grey Day for Elcia said:
I know, like i say I may have even taken the poll. Just pointing out the lengths people will go to so they are and you are not a "real" furry, this exists in a lot of cultures. Just like the "only hard core gamers are real gamers" mentality.
Yeah, that mentality is stupid and totally not constructive in the least.
 

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humanity is a state of mind, as well as matter. if they see themselves as more than human, then all credit to them for having a healthy mind and imagination.
No, there's a fucking genome that says you're human. If you don't think that, congratulations, you have a personality disorder.
 

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Freechoice said:
Tom Milner said:
humanity is a state of mind, as well as matter. if they see themselves as more than human, then all credit to them for having a healthy mind and imagination.
No, there's a fucking genome that says you're human. If you don't think that, congratulations, you have a personality disorder.
Woah, woah, woah. No need to be aggressive and to attack someone.
 

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Yeah, I'm gonna have to say that if you think you're not human, you're probably some form of crazy.

Despite what the internet may say, there's nothing wrong with being a furry, you like what you like and it's good to be in a fandom and with a community of others like you and finding acceptance among a group of your peers. And it's possible to connect with animals and identify with the spirit of certain animals.

But, we're all still human, and if someone honestly, truly believes that they are not 100% homosapien, then they are nutty.
 

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Freechoice said:
Tom Milner said:
humanity is a state of mind, as well as matter. if they see themselves as more than human, then all credit to them for having a healthy mind and imagination.
No, there's a fucking genome that says you're human. If you don't think that, congratulations, you have a personality disorder.
you dummy. it's ROLEPLAY. if you had an RP guy, would i say YOU had "problems"? NO!

so pack that **** in and don't take everything so literally.
 

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Speaking as a furry myself, I have to say that there may be a screw loose with the "WE AREN'T HUMAN" furries.

Then again, I have more of a passing interest than hardcore "OMG, ANIMAL-SEX IST SO HAWT! *Foaming*"... I have talked to some raving mad ones .__.

Anyway, Human is an aspect that we humans have given ourselves. We are all still animals, the only difference between us and all other animals is the fact that we are arseholes >:3 And if people say "WE HAVE GAINED CONTROL OF OUR INSTINCTS" I will say just one word: Bullshit. Lusting for sex is parts of ones instincts, and we humans (After a certain age, and most of us) crave it... So yeah. Don't try to say I am wrong you pervy, pervy people >:3
 

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Tom Milner said:
humanity is a state of mind, as well as matter. if they see themselves as more than human, then all credit to them for having a healthy mind and imagination.
You remind me of a friend of mine. You are both so logical :3
 

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Tom Milner said:
Freechoice said:
Tom Milner said:
humanity is a state of mind, as well as matter. if they see themselves as more than human, then all credit to them for having a healthy mind and imagination.
No, there's a fucking genome that says you're human. If you don't think that, congratulations, you have a personality disorder.
you dummy. it's ROLEPLAY. if you had an RP guy, would i say YOU had "problems"? NO!

so pack that **** in and don't take everything so literally.
I'm not talking about you, I'm making a hypothetical using swear words.

I do that a lot. :)

Actually, I'm probably one of the more tolerant people I know when it comes to furry, but I still have boundaries. Legoman [http://i44.tinypic.com/2cn8oxt.png] sums it up pretty well here.
 

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With the furries that think there more then human, it's not so much that they believe they are physically part animal, they tend to explain it as either being born in the wrong body or a strong connection to a spiritual animal or sometimes them just wishing for it way to hard, most of them will have more of a definition for that but it boils down to one of those most the time. Hope that clears up how that idea works for someone. I can't say I have that ideal myself I do understand not wanting your own body at times, as I think everyone has at some point, and having a tail as well as a few other traits would be fairly bitching.
 

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Grey Day for Elcia said:
Furries - Not Entirely Human?
I am going to be blunt and honest. I think most (not all) furries are full of crap. Regardless of what they claim, what furries are is often more human then.... well, human. Furry is an entire culture of admiration for the human form. I have seen furry comics and most often then not they take place on earth, with anthropomorphic animals still using things designed for humans even though they have weird animal hands (which is funny as hell). And what they do and say is still all incredibly human. I have a few furry friends, and I always ask them questions that make them uncomfortable. One of the long running inquiries is concerning why most furries put breasts on their reptile characters. Their every retort comes down to "Look up the definition of anthropomorphism, hurrr" and I just smile and nod, saying "Yeah, that's my point exactly."

The entire point of anthropomorphism is to make something more human. If you truly identified with say, lizards, and you wanted to be less associated with humanity by being a lizard creature, then wouldn't you welcome the differences that come with being a lizard? Wouldn't female reptiles not having breasts be a good thing? I would think that the added 'distance from humanity' it would bring would be comforting.

However I have seen some exceptions to this rule. These few and abnormal individuals can't even really be called furrys by this point, as what they are dealing with is more alien then anything else. But furrys as a whole? They can believe they want to be "less then human" until the sun collides with the earth, but that doesn't make it true, and it won't be as long as they stick to the most basic principles of anthropomorphism.
 

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dyre said:
That's...interesting.

Of course, any furry who considers him/herself not human is delusional, because biologically, he/she is indeed human. You can't think away your species.
I'm not sure about that, I mean for most of human history we worshiped animals and had ideas about being possessed by animal spirits, its weird but people are farken weird.
 

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Worgen said:
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That's...interesting.

Of course, any furry who considers him/herself not human is delusional, because biologically, he/she is indeed human. You can't think away your species.
I'm not sure about that, I mean for most of human history we worshiped animals and had ideas about being possessed by animal spirits, its weird but people are farken weird.
I'm not aware that we worshiped animals for most of human history...I mean, maybe we worshiped gods with animal-like features, but straight up worshiping bears or tigers? I hadn't heard about that.

Besides, none of those people thought they were animals (that is, non-human members of the animal kingdom), or if they did think so, they were wrong.

edit: I'm probably being a little harsh on any animal-spirit religions that might have existed. I guess if they believe there are animal spirits, more glory to them. But I'm pretty sure these people still believed they were humans, and heck, it beats thinking you're not human simply because you wear a fursuit or like pictures of wolf-like humans :\
 

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The entire point of anthropomorphism is to make something more human. If you truly identified with say, lizards, and you wanted to be less associated with humanity by being a lizard creature, then wouldn't you welcome the differences that come with being a lizard? Wouldn't female reptiles not having breasts be a good thing? I would think that the added 'distance from humanity' it would bring would be comforting.
You just blew my mind. I never actually thought of it that way.
 

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dyre said:
Worgen said:
dyre said:
That's...interesting.

Of course, any furry who considers him/herself not human is delusional, because biologically, he/she is indeed human. You can't think away your species.
I'm not sure about that, I mean for most of human history we worshiped animals and had ideas about being possessed by animal spirits, its weird but people are farken weird.
I'm not aware that we worshiped animals for most of human history...I mean, maybe we worshiped gods with animal-like features, but straight up worshiping bears or tigers? I hadn't heard about that.

Besides, none of those people thought they were animals (that is, non-human members of the animal kingdom), or if they did think so, they were wrong.
We did actually worship animals for most of history. It is only very recently that humans by and large have stopped this. Remember, we were around for a LONG time before we started living in buildings or even speaking a language. In most cultures they still do actively worship some form of animals, actually, especially in Asia.

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It makes sense when you think about it; we were a weak species, very young compared to most, so when we saw something like a tiger or a pack of wolves, they must have seemed amazing. The idea that these beasts could kill so easily and seemed to possess super-natural powers to see in the dark, run super fast, climb trees and push massive boulders made them godlike.