G4 Gives Uncharted 3 a 4/5: Madness Ensues

[Amnestic]

it's like you make this assumption that I (we) care. I (we) don't,

Some people do. Many (from my own observations) decry the 'lessening' of games journalism, when The People provoke it by their demand and enthused responses to drama when it comes to reviews and other game-related news. It's the reasons tabloids sell, why celebrity gossip sells, why 24 hour 'news' (and I use that term lightly) sells. Because people make money off of it.

Vote with your wallet, or rather, your clicks. You don't care about it? Fine, but some do. Some on this site do. I'm pretty sure I saw more than a few in the IGN Uncharted 3 thread.

 

[emeraldrafael]

The problem I've always had with X-plays rating system is the x/5 system. not that any system is really good, cause its all an opinion really, but people generally look at an x/5 in one of five (six if you want to count a 0) ways:
0/5 - 0% nothing redeeming
1/5 - 20% still really bad
2/5 - 40% eh, not as bad and its half way decent I guess, maybe a rental
3/5 - 60% above the 50% failing grade, justifiably buyable
4/5 - 80% alright, we're getting to the good stuff, it might not be top 1% or anything, but still great game
5/5 - 100% no reason not to buy, no flaws with the game (otherwise it wouldnt get a 100%)

and there's just not a lot of in between ground. People will rattle off the star score and say "dude, it got 4/5 stars, its great" when it can be just a really low 80%, or "man, it got a 5/5 this game is perfect, why wouldnt you want it?"

then you compare it to other review sites where they use a full 0-100% system and people get pissed.

Plus I think IGN was a bit overzealous giving out that 100%. I've never seen a game that was perfect that didnt leave something to be desired or you didnt find something wrong with.

I dont know TL;DR, the people who are pissed are probably having a fanboy period, especially after seeing the IGN score, but I trust Adam in his judgment. Hes sold me on a few good games that I would have probably over looked had he not. in the end though, number systems are flawed (oh I know, wow! what ground shattering observation! /sarcasm) and you should always just read/listen to the comments on the game and see if you agree with them. Im sure not EVERYONE thought aquaman or drake of the 99 dragons was complete and total garbage (... maybe).

 

[nukethetuna]

WHAT. THE. FUCK. A 4/5?! DANCE FUCKING CENTRAL GOT A 5/5. SORRY BUT G4 HAS SOLD OUT TO MICROSOFT AND ADAM HAS LOST ALL OF MY RESPECT FOR BEING A CORPORATE MONEY-GRUBBING WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE.

No but seriously, who would react to something as simple as a number with such fervor? I guess people just need something to get fired up about sometimes. Imagine if these people had such a strong stance on helping others or government corruption or something.

Sayre's Law I guess?

 

[Pinkamena]

I don't like it when rewievers give games perfect scores... It ruins their credibility IMO.

 

[BoredDragon]

I do hate when fan-boys try to screw with review scores. I shall give a recent example of this:
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Battlefield 3 came out today, but Gamefly sent it out yesterday since it takes a day for it to arrive. I checked my game queue yesterday around 10:00 am and the fan-boys already rated it a 10 out of 10. They couldn't even wait until they got the fucking game before they start over-blowing it. Now I don't like the Battlefield series, but even if I did this would still be rediculous.
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As for X-Play, they are probably the only big-name reviewing source that I actually trust since they are usually not bias. I need to start watching it again.

 

[BoredDragon]

There should be a rule that you are not allowed to trash people for their review scores when you haven't played the game.

I entirely agree with this statement. If you haven't played a game you can't criticize others for saying what they think about it when they have played the game.

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

Don't you mean a 3 out of 5? Its not as good as the first one and the series is wearing itself down bit by bit.

 

[bossfight1]

One of the cons was "Lives in the shadow of Uncharted 2." To me it totally makes sense. This is the process of game series; the first game has some flaws, but sets the stage. The second corrects those flaws. The games afterwards tend to roll downhill.

 

[BoredDragon]

I like fanboyism... mostly because fanboyism is responsible for giving me some of the most high quality products of any game.

Interestingly, when developers walk away from the demands of fanboys, their product is usually sub par (think the transition from Dragon Age to Dragon Age II; one of the best RPGs of the decade [at least this generation] to an average/mediocre action/adventure set in the same universe) and it doesn't sell as well.

Soooo... I REALLY don't think fanboys are the problem.

I would have to disagree with you there. It's not fanboyism that helps make games better, it's constructive criticism from reviewers and critics. Of coarse the fans also help with this fact, but fan-boys are the ones who usually think illogically by not accepting any of the faults of a game or franchise.

One of the things I thought was disappointing about Gears of War 3 was its story and characters because I thought they had potential. Things like how the loss of two bothers would effect the last Carmine's personality or how Anya would deal with abruptly going from a desk job to the front lines in the war or even simply explaining how Dizzy survived the last game. Besides a few token lines, they never explore things like this and I think it is because most of the fans wanted them to focus on the mutliplayer more. It makes me sad because improving the singleplayer would have turned a great game into an excellent game in my eyes.

 

[Techno Squidgy]

That's the first time I've seen that video. Fucking hilarious.

I'm getting sick of it but there's nothing I can do about it. Fucking idiots will continue to be fucking idiots, and the chances of raising their intelligence level is about as high as me abstaining from using the F-bomb for a month.

On that note, I would gladly erase "fuck" from my vocabulary if we could get a little more intelligent discussion and a little less fanboyism.

But sometimes the word "fuck" is necessary to properly punctuate a deeply intelligent conversation!

OT: Fanboys will be fanboys. I have a PS3. never played an Uncharted game. Much like Halo, the community drives me away.
Curiously I still play CoD. Well, did play CoD, I refuse to buy them anymore thanks to Activision/IW/Sledgehammer Games taking a huge steaming shit on the PC copy of the game. AGAIN.

Hopefully one day the collective intelligence of the global community will rise to a point where we can make cultural progress, form a unified government and begin Space exploration and colonisation. The war on idiocy begins with fanboys (At least, my personal war).

 

[weker]

in my books any game that gives a 10/10 losses all credibility for me, this is due to a 10 meaning perfection, the strange thing is a 5/5 does not mean perfection for many. for me personally and others I think, feel that a 5/5 always means a 9, this removes the possibly of the game being described as perfect.

In short 10/10 perfect
5/5 a really good game

Edit: thought about it some more, it may be due to the reduced scale that you can apply less exaggerated scores.
such as
1= really bad
2= bad
3= average (this tends to be more accurate)
4= good game
5 very good game

but the main issue is with 1/10 scores as they also have their average messed up

5= crap
6= not very good
7= meh
8= average
9= good
10= mass rage and confusing over what it means

in short scores out of 10 don't work anymore as people are crazy

 

[chstens]

Ahhh, this reminds me of CliffyB whining about Gears 3 getting an 8/10, or should I say "hate out of 10?" Cliffy is truly a big baby.

 

[AnarchistFish]

This is how I generally see game ratings on the internet-
0-6: Poor
7-8: Average
9-10: Great-Brilliant

Game ratings are all over the shop usually.

 

[NerfedFalcon]

They gave Bastion exactly the same score for having a boring plot, annoying narrator and being too linear. I don't think their opinion is worth a lot.

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[Shadowstar38]

The overall problem came away with from reading the review( yes I actually those things) is that Adam thought Uncharted 3 wasnt as good as 2. Same problem Crenshaw had with Portal 2.

 

[Nico4]

Hardcore fanboys x.x I'd try and defend, but I've yet to play the game, so yea...

 

[Soviet Heavy]

I pretty much dont trust any reviewer who gives out a perfect score.
So im glad there are still bastions of reviewing hope out there.. shame people have to go ruin it by being fanboys.

If only review scores were meant to be a quickly apprehended summary and not some divine mathematical expression that completely describes a game using only a five point scale, eh?

Sessler himself is against using score charts to designate quality. He has admitted on the soapbox that he only uses the five point scale for the needs of the show. And he HATES Metacritic.

That video is just retarded. Basically he's saying on his scale, a 2/5 doesn't equal 40%? Is he retarded? Can he not do basic math?

That video makes him seem like a wannabe celebrity who wants to make reviews but also stay best buddies with games developers.

That's not the point. He doesn't do things by percentage. He was pissed off that Metacritic had cost one of his friends his job because they equated his 2/5 (Rentable, but has some big issues) with a 40 (which by Metacritic's views, is abysmal).

Their points scales work differently, and yet they are judged mathematically. When G4 says 3/5, they aren't saying that it is a 60% game, they are saying that it is a genuinely good game, that has legitimate flaws that keep it from going higher.

 

[Zhukov]

...

*SIGH*

Seriously, fanboys. Haters too. They're bloody everywhere. Look at the comments on any review, any Top X list, any gaming-related youtube video. You'll find the countless legions angrily typing away about how someone or other failed to give their favourite darling game the loving tonguing that it so clearly deserved.

Nothing but a great big, soggy, angry, whinging ball of... whinge. And I'm sick of them.

And now I'm whinging. Great.