G4 Gives Uncharted 3 a 4/5: Madness Ensues

[Casual Shinji]

This is why it's a bad idea to grade artistic media with a numerical value.

Avoiding the fact ofcourse that you can't put numerical value on artistry.

[sub]Yeah that's right, I wrote 'numerical' in every sentence of this post [/sub]

 

[Pyramid Head]

It didn't hold up to Uncharted 2 and the multiplayer felt rushed. Sounds like a completely fair review, and it still performed well even with it's faults.
Really though, the G4 population and the Escapist population seem to be entirely different species. He is (I'm assuming) a respected critic for that site and he makes his opinion shown and points out valid criticisms, and people bomb him. Meanwhile the reviewers here tend to be as incendiary as humanly possible pointing out any flaw they can find, but most of the time they get off free. Hell, i never actually encountered a troll on the reviews i made. Kind of makes me glad i post here when i see what the alternative is. This is exactly why i'm not on YouTube.

 

[Retardinator]

Clegane]I'm worried for these people.

I dared voice the thought that the Uncharted Series of games didn't really deserve their glowing reviews and the fanboy backlash made me fear for my life (followed by the cries of we're not fanboys it really is the best game ever!)

Well these people actually did give it a fair review. I fear it may already be too late to save them.

I played both Uncharted games. For 5 minutes each. That's when I almost suffocated from the bile buildup that I just had to spew on these two games (now probably 3). I don't even know why they're so fucking popular when there's lots of actual quality titles out there. Oh wait... it's probably because people judge games by a number so much. Numbers put up mostly by idiots in the first place.

 

[Pearwood]

People are upset with a 4/5? Why? 4/5 is good, it means they recommend it.

 

[Programmed_For_Damage]

WHAT. THE. FUCK. A 4/5?! DANCE FUCKING CENTRAL GOT A 5/5. SORRY BUT G4 HAS SOLD OUT TO MICROSOFT AND ADAM HAS LOST ALL OF MY RESPECT FOR BEING A CORPORATE MONEY-GRUBBING WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE.

No but seriously, who would react to something as simple as a number with such fervor? I guess people just need something to get fired up about sometimes. Imagine if these people had such a strong stance on helping others or government corruption or something.

Sayre's Law I guess?

Dance Central got 5/5? That's hilarious.

Serious though, I love that game. The only exercise I get these days.

 

[shadyh8er]

Pfft. Whatever, it wasn't overtly negative, I'm still buying it!

 

[DustyDrB]

This is why it's a bad idea to grade artistic media with a numerical value.

Avoiding the fact ofcourse that you can't put numerical value on artistry.

[sub]Yeah that's right, I wrote 'numerical' in every sentence of this post [/sub]

I guess it's sort of useful in an archival way. You can easily flip through some critically acclaimed games. But yeah, it's still an attempt to stick a number onto an opinion. And then Metacritic averages out those opinions. And it becomes Opinion Stew.

At least Metacritic doesn't do what Rotten Tomatoes does when they get enough movie reviews. You know, trying to average out 60 reviews into one summary line.

 

[weker]

in my books any game that gives a 10/10 losses all credibility for me, this is due to a 10 meaning perfection, the strange thing is a 5/5 does not mean perfection for many. for me personally and others I think, feel that a 5/5 always means a 9, this removes the possibly of the game being described as perfect.

why do so many people not understand the scoring system. you say a 10/10 loses credibility because 10 is perfection. heres the thing, if you refuse to hand out 10s because nothing is perfect then you are just artificially making 9.5 the new 10. a person using a x/5 is obviously going to hand out more 5s then a person using x/10 because 5/5 really represents 9/10 or 10/10

any reviewer who refuses to hand out perfect scores to me loses credibility. personally i prefer gamearena for my reviews, especially joaby. they are not afraid to hand out a 10 and are not afraid to hand out a 2. recently joaby gave rage a 4.5/10, his review is the only bad review on metacritic with a metacritic score of 79... user review score is 4

I didn't talk about .5 and such scores as I think they are awful, the difference between a 6 and a 6.5 or a 67% is so silly, as it is just not clear why the score is so.

 

[SinorKirby]

(make another Jak Game dammit!)

THANK YOU!!!!!!! Finally, someone who shares my feelings on this!

*ahem*

OT: Meh, I don't trust game reviews in the slightest. Most people tend to think a game is terrible if it gets anything below a 7/8. Games that get a 5/6 are average/slightly above average, and thus those should be the normal review scores we see. Games that get a 7/8 should be uncommon, but not impossible to find, and games that get a 9/10 should be really rare, almost impossible to find. Practically NO game is deserving of a perfect score, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

 

[weker]

i only used 9.5 because thats how most people using the x/10 score do it. if you dont want to include decimals then you still have the same issue, any reviewer who refuses to give 10s because that represents perfection is just artificially making 9 the highest possible score therefor making 9 the new 10. giving a 10 does not mean the game is perfect, it means its a great game. any reviewer who does not get this simple concept is not worth listening to

Sadly a 10 still can mean perfection in many reviewers eyes, it's more the average that makes the 1-5 scale better then the 1-10, as a game which is 6-7 tends to be called average, I hear people say Bionic commando is average and it scored 6-7, the same for many other games. An average 1-10 score is 6-7 in many gamers eyes, the main issue I have with this is it means the score is centralized.
A 1-5 score just offers a accurate average score, with most games being a 3, it is actually halfway in the scale, rather then higher up.

.5 scores or decimal are a reviewer, and the only case they may be used is in multiple scores, combined into one, having a 9.2 over a 9.3 is so trivial and extremely picky.

 

[Soxafloppin]

Game gets 10/10 The Rage..THE RAGEEEE.

Game gets 4/5 The Rage..THE RAGGEEEE.

I guess it averages 9/10 then?

 

[The Pinray]

Uhhh I'm going to enjoy it. I'm sure I will. So why does his score even matter to me? It baffles me why people get so heated about this. If you enjoy it, enjoy it. Why do you need some weird twitchy guy to confirm it's good for you?

Oh well, whatever.

 

[nYuknYuknYuk]

Wait... am I the only one seeing this? No one has played the game yet they're bashing a reviewer on his opinions on the game? NONE OF YOU COMMENTERS HAVE PLAYED THE GAME YET. How can you say a game deserves a ten when you haven't even played it? Sorry if I'm repeating myself, but that just boggles my mind.

 

[Warachia]

Out of curiosity I looked up the review, and was surprised to see good points for, and rarely against the game, and looking at the comments, I saw one that pretty much summarized that section:

Tetseru
As much as I respect G4 for the last couple of years, for once, I can see why the rating system of 5 stars can be such a hassle. After seeing the review, I agree with most of these reviewers instead of the donkey kissers. I went to Wikipedia, and went to every single website that had reviewed this game. Metacritic gave this game a 94/100, and Game Rankings gave it a 96/100. EVERY SINGLE REVIEW I READ gave this game several compliments with hardly anything talking about "the plot points never go anywhere"? The hell? Be quiet and stop being so nit-picky about this game. And "hides in the shadows of Uncharted 2?" The ruck is this phit I'm reading? This game is amazing. Get your facts together and go ejaculate on Gears Of War 3. I swear, when everyone else is giving a game fantastic reviews, usually X-Play has to ruin it with a douchey reviewer. You dropped the ball X-play, you dropped the ball.

I must have missed the part where wanting a good story well told was nitpicking. Oh well.

 

[Dr. Pepper Unlimited]

Threads like this remind me why I no longer read any reviews. I know myself, my likes and dislikes and have always been able to make a sound decision. If I want to learn about a game, I'll read about it, check out some screenshots, or simply watch an episode of someone's "Let's Play". G4 and IGN can go suck a railroad spike for all I care. I stopped paying attention to those sites long, long ago.

 

[valleyshrew]

I pretty much dont trust any reviewer who gives out a perfect score.
So im glad there are still bastions of reviewing hope out there.. shame people have to go ruin it by being fanboys.

You don't trust a reviewer that's ever given a 5/5? It's truly mind boggling that gamers have such a lack of understanding of what review scores are for. They're advice for people on whether to pick up a game, not some objective measure of perfection.

 

[Ilikemilkshake]

I pretty much dont trust any reviewer who gives out a perfect score.
So im glad there are still bastions of reviewing hope out there.. shame people have to go ruin it by being fanboys.

What's the point of having a perfect score then?

Anyway X Play has given perfect scores before. But they don't mean perfect game.

X Play gives a game an X/5 rating. There are no 4.9's out of 5 just 1-5/5. I like it that way.

It basically boils down to

1-Terrible
2-Bad
3-Ok
4-good but not great (worth playing though)
5-Excellent.

Well tbh i just dont think scores are a particularly good way of expressing how good a game is.
Especially if its as low a scale as x/5 and 5 =/= perfect, then why not have stars instead of numbers?

In my mind giving a score of 5/5 or 10/10 implies perfection, the game got absolutely nothing wrong, and there is practically nothing that could be expected of the devs to make the game better.
Whereas 5 stars says, this game was hella fun and you should definitely check it out.

Anyway other than for marketing purposes, i really dont understand why scores are even necessary. IMO scores are a pretty good way to have anything constructive you have to say about the game get completely ignored while everyone focuses on whatever number you've assigned the game.

I pretty much dont trust any reviewer who gives out a perfect score.
So im glad there are still bastions of reviewing hope out there.. shame people have to go ruin it by being fanboys.

You don't trust a reviewer that's ever given a 5/5? It's truly mind boggling that gamers have such a lack of understanding of what review scores are for. They're advice for people on whether to pick up a game, not some objective measure of perfection.

I know what the review scores are used for but if you're telling me that apparantly there is alot of confusion about review scores, then obviously they arent doing their job right, as indicated by the fact that every time a game does or doesnt get a perfect score thousands of people freak out.

Im mainly talking about perfect scores on scales other than 5/5. Because in most cases they are meant to be an objective measure of perfection where reviewers might give individual scores out of 10 to the plot, the graphics, the gameplay etc, and then give out an overall score.
But i still dont think that 5/5 is a good way of scoring a game, you should really use stars.