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insane44

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cooking games seriously if you can afford to buy a 50 dollar cooking game then you can buy 29 dollars worth of ingrediants and a cookbook and whats fun about them anyway?
 

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insane44 said:
cooking games seriously if you can afford to buy a 50 dollar cooking game then you can buy 29 dollars worth of ingrediants and a cookbook and whats fun about them anyway?
They teach you how to cook? well thats my understanding of it, haven't played them myself but thats how i see their general premise as being. Spend 50 bucks on a game that may teach you how to cook and a more fun way than reading a big ass book or spend god know how much money on cooking classes. They can be a good teaching aid if they really did teach you how to cook properly, wouldn't mind playing one if it did.

Although if that were the case, then the cooking channels would be out of business lol, oh well a good attempt though.
 

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Wait, wait, you guys arguing about JRPGs...

So, you guys have one exception and argue against his entire point, even though you guys have exceptions in your lists, yourselves?

I see "Shooters: (Except Serious Sam)" and it's fine, but you've made a "JRPGs: (Except X)" for him and an argument started? Shame, shame.

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-Seraph- said:
insane44 said:
cooking games seriously if you can afford to buy a 50 dollar cooking game then you can buy 29 dollars worth of ingrediants and a cookbook and whats fun about them anyway?
They teach you how to cook? well thats my understanding of it, haven't played them myself but thats how i see their general premise as being. Spend 50 bucks on a game that may teach you how to cook and a more fun way than reading a big ass book or spend god know how much money on cooking classes. They can be a good teaching aid if they really did teach you how to cook properly, wouldn't mind playing one if it did.

Although if that were the case, then the cooking channels would be out of business lol, oh well a good attempt though.
Since when do you have to take classes to learn how to cook? And I'd probably be safe in saying that you don't have to read an entire recipe book to do anything. You can just flip to a page and start (given that you have the required components). Sure, you'll probably screw some stuff up when you're just beginning, but after that, you should be fine. Or you could always go up to your grandmother and say, "I want to learn how to cook stuff." (Or any other family member who's interested in cooking, of course.)
 

insane44

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how could cooking games teach you to cook? you cant walk up to the kitchen and press A to stir
 

SimuLord

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I'm not a fan of JRPGs or first-person shooters but at least I understand why others may like them. What really makes me wonder about some gamers' sanity is the Mumorpuger. There's nothing to justify the grinding except an insular world where all your accomplishments are of value only to the simulacrum you're playing in. Basically you're selling your soul to the grinder for e-kudos.

There's no story, no ending, no "a winner is you", just a relentless push to keep up with the Joneses at the expense of your free time and sanity. In other words, it's just like real life, and isn't that what games are supposed to be an escape from?
 

jezz8me

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Online FPS. I love playign through the story of Half Life 2 or COD4 but i do not get online FPS. It seems to me there is no point in it but killing everyone else and if you do you get nothing but a number at the end of the day.

The same goes for MMORPGs there is nothing you achieve at the end and there is no story to push things along.

Strategy on the other hand has no story most of the time but because of the sheer power you have and you feel you are controling life they are extremely entertaining.
 

SimuLord

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Onmi said:
^ See I don't have a problem with what Simulord said...

Although it's weird you say your not a fan yet your Avatar is of Locke from FF6
I'm not a fan of JRPGs now, but back in the 8-/16-bit days they were my favorite genre and FF6 is still my all-time favorite console game. I became a PC gamer when I got a gaming PC in 2000 and never looked back on consoles (except for sports games, which the PC is horrible at.)
 

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insane44 said:
how could cooking games teach you to cook? you cant walk up to the kitchen and press A to stir
Um...it was just an interpretation. It would be no different than watching a cooking show so re3ally..How can it NOT teach you how to cook IF it's DONE RIGHT. I mean seriously is it that hard to think outside the box and see games as more than entertainment and have some that can be fun teaching aids.
 

OuroborosChoked

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Can we all just agree that, from now on, whenever someone says "I don't like JRPGs" they instead say "I don't like Final Fantasy VII through XII"? Seems like that would eliminate a lot of confusion on the one hand, and hide the commentor's ignorance on all other JRPGs on the other hand.
 

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Gotham Soul said:
The reason why most people play MMORPGs is because of the community within the game and social interaction (remember that part) that the game's mechanics force you to go through. For example, you can get through to the level cap by yourself. But at the end, what then? Raids, group dungeons, things that require real people other than yourself. When you down a big boss or get, quote, "phat lewtz", you killed the boss or got the loot through cooperation and teamwork. Victories are sweetened and defeats softened because you did them with other people.

Just stop for a bit: do you really think that the people who play MMOs would continue playing if those MMORPGs were simply single player games?

And if you missed it, I'm simply clarifying for people why the people who play MMORPGs do what they do. If you don't like it, don't play it.
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No. Nobody would play MMOs without the "community" aspect, but that doesn't excuse how formulaic they are. Grind X enemy for Y hours to get Z item. Repeat. See where I'm going with this? Community nothwithstanding, you're just repeating the same actions a billion times until you win against that one enemy... and doing that with a bunch of other people practically takes all of the challenge out. "Roger, you cast fireball until you're out of magic power. Steve, you heal everyone and when Roger runs out of MP, you restore that. Mike, Lucy, and I will tank. Hope everyone's had their pee breaks, 'cause we'll be doing this very same thing for the next two hours." Sound familiar MMO players?

Basically, my point is this: instead of ONE stupid person doing the same thing for hours on end with practically no benefit... you have whole BUNCH of stupid people working together, but still doing the same thing for hours on end with practically no benefit.

And you have to PAY TO PLAY MMOs. Most of 'em, anyway... not counting most of the Korean ones. Name me ONE other genre where you have to buy the game... then PAY to play the game you JUST bought... and keep paying for it month after month.

Oh, and the games never END. There's no conclusion to all of this pointless action. It's like Animal Crossing but you have to pay for it.

Finally, regarding your last statement: I don't play MMOs because of the reasons I listed above... but if other people don't care about common sense or just prefer to spend money to hang out with their own friends, let 'em. Just clarifying the non-MMO playing side's opinion.
 

PlasticPorter

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Screw RTS if you've played one you have truly played them all, every single one might as well be a mod off all the other ones
It can be argued that the same is true for FPS titles but at least shooters have a story worth paying attention to...