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shadow_Fox81

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Just valve fans (will generiscise here) they are always pompous and self righteous and are usually first to bash games they don't like.
 

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Raika said:
Final Fantasy VI's fans have made the game seem extremely undesirable to me. I have yet to have Final Fantasy VI pitched to me in a way that isn't just a massive Final Fantasy VII bash.

"Oh, man, it's so much better than VII. You'll HATE VII after you play VI, it's so brilliant."

"It's not until you see how amazing and deep Kefka is that you realize just how awful Sephiroth is. Sephiroth sucks, man, and Kefka will show you why."

"Cloud is such a shitty character. Every character in Final Fantasy VII is shit, man, you'll see when you play VI what a Final Fantasy game should be."

I still have no idea what Final Fantasy VI is about, and I've gotten it pitched at me by hundreds of people. I get it. Everybody hates Final Fantasy VII because all popular things are shit. You're such an edgy, rebellious nonconformist.

Except you're not.
I'd give FF6 a go if you're in to the older style of JRPGs, in regards to the whole "It's better than FF7" reasoning for giving it a go, I genuinely preferred 7 over that, and honestly, 8 over them all, but if you're interested in those types of games, give FF6 a go, it's a good game, but it just depends on your tastes.
 

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If you look hard enough every game has fans who ruined it. It may just be that your playing styles don't mesh effectively or that (and my favorite) most people are jerks, sometimes. Ether way after reading over the comments most people are just like cod and halo or wow and although each and every one of them are valid points and anyone who has ever been gear ninja ed or noob tubed knows what i mean but recently i have noticed that space marine online is just as bad online, and don't even get me started on dead island. There's nothing worse then playing co-op with some one who A you can't communicate with and B you don't know (know that may sound bad, but it's not as fun).

Despite getting off topic a little, fan boys that fall in love with not a game but with a series or "universe", the people that buy anything they release, no matter how bad and still say they love it.
 

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i love all the halo games and i play call of duty also but in ANY game EVER MADE there are people who WILL find a way to be a dick in said game. MW2 keeps coming up in my mind for "game ruined by its fans"....not that it was a great game to start out with, though.
 

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BlueSinbad said:
I'd give FF6 a go if you're in to the older style of JRPGs, in regards to the whole "It's better than FF7" reasoning for giving it a go, I genuinely preferred 7 over that, and honestly, 8 over them all, but if you're interested in those types of games, give FF6 a go, it's a good game, but it just depends on your tastes.
I'm sure the game is fine by its own merits, and because it's a single-player game, when I finally do get around to it, it'll be easy for me to simply disregard how obnoxious its fans have been in my experiences with them. I do have quite a back log of games, though... quite a back log indeed. First I have to finish BioShock, then I have to burn through Final Fantasy VII, then I have to decide whether the next game I play will be Final Fantasy VIII, Final Fantasy Tactics, Infamous, Lost Odyssey, or Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine.
 

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The majority of popular game series' in modern gaming really.

They all have a problem of a large and blindly subservient chunk of their fanbase who become apologists for weak plots and game flaws and declare their personal guarantees to purchase the sequel after the first teaser trailer; in the meantime obstructing any and all forms of criticism toward the developer's direction and praising the addition of puddle-deep gimmicks over addressing existing issues, right the way up until release.

"The original was never about (...) it was about being a badass, and they're just making it even better by ramping up the badassness."

Classic example of rhetoric that sees stealth games mutate into dysfunctional action games and tired, generic cliche's of "style" prevail over substance.

The inevitable effect of mainstream recognition/popularity is the influx of people who have low standards and can't recognise art when they see it. Then comes the natural clash between those who must be able to engage their brain to be entertained, and a much larger crowd for whom almost-complete disengagement of their brain is imperative for their entertainment. Usually played out across smaller scaled battles over individual topics or the different interpretations of "suspension of disbelief" and such.

A few immediate examples to me of games ruined by fans:

Final Fantasy
Modern Capcom fighting games
Assassin's Creed (gradual decay)
Devil May Cry
 

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Minecraft. I was working at a Gamestop when it came out and had a dozen screeching harpies come up to me daily at work telling me how I need to play RIGHT NOW . . . while at work apparently. Killed it forever.
 

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Well the closest I've come to having any game 'ruined' by fans is the Halo series, especially 3. I like the games, out of the ones I've played they range from pretty good to slightly above average, but fuck if I'm ever saying that in public. Sometimes I seriously feel like the only sane person who's ever played Halo, if it's not people going on insane rants about how Halo practically murdered their children with how horrible it is, it's people championing Halo as some kind of messiah in video game form.

I don't really let it affect how much I enjoy the games, but it's REALLY fucking annoying when the only person, other then myself, I know to have a middle ground opinion of the series is a foul mouthed Australian in a funny hat.
 

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Kingdom Hearts.

Yeah, right, yaoi fangirls. Every single male in this game is gay for each other. They always have "I'm on top, no I'm on top" conversations and they're always going at it with each other. The girls in this game are an afterthought and every male in this game wants to have a giant freaking orgy with each other, and they're all extremely girly guys, because it's "cute".

Oh, and don't forget, anyone who opposes you turning characters they like and respect into one-dimensional gay characters is a homophobe. That's right, opposing the mis-portrayal of the characters they like and respect as extreme yaoi stereotypes just because you couldn't care less what their actual personality is, have an abslolute need to shoehorn homsexuality into everything, and only really care for their character design is extremely homophobic.

Ugh. I used to have to see this kind of art at least once a day, because I go to art sites and submit art to these sites every once in a while. Kingdom Hearts was hit by the yaoi fangirl stick by FAR the hardest.
 

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anime in general. the very reason i hate anime is because i used to be into it when i was waaaaaaaaaay younger. i was made fun of for it, and once i grew up, grew a pair, and realized what was wrong with anime; literally everyone else who was into it (or everyone most people noticed) were otakus, and even comic book nerds and geeks resent them, and thats sad.
As far as i'm aware, an Otaku is generally used to describe someone who likes anime. So you realized you didn't like anime was that you realized that everyone who liked anime... liked anime.
Er, what?
 

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Mrmac23 said:
mega48man said:
anime in general. the very reason i hate anime is because i used to be into it when i was waaaaaaaaaay younger. i was made fun of for it, and once i grew up, grew a pair, and realized what was wrong with anime; literally everyone else who was into it (or everyone most people noticed) were otakus, and even comic book nerds and geeks resent them, and thats sad.
As far as i'm aware, an Otaku is generally used to describe someone who likes anime. So you realized you didn't like anime was that you realized that everyone who liked anime... liked anime.
Er, what?
i grew out of it, and i watched other people around me get sucked into it and become that pathetic kid with no freinds because he spends his weekends at borders in the anime/manga section (which is over now b/c borders is dead). I was being made fun of and being picked on for being a narutard, so i've steered waaaay clear of anime since a little before 10th grade. i'm a freshman in college now so looking back on it, abandoning anime was probably the best decision i ever made. for one thing i'm an approachable good looking guy with great fashion sense, not some kid in a yu-gi-oh shirts bought at target with his face in some FMA book. i even had a girlfriend at one point, six months, then we 'became friends' again and that took a lot out me, but i'm not gonna pour out my life's story to you.
 

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Raika said:
BlueSinbad said:
I'd give FF6 a go if you're in to the older style of JRPGs, in regards to the whole "It's better than FF7" reasoning for giving it a go, I genuinely preferred 7 over that, and honestly, 8 over them all, but if you're interested in those types of games, give FF6 a go, it's a good game, but it just depends on your tastes.
I'm sure the game is fine by its own merits, and because it's a single-player game, when I finally do get around to it, it'll be easy for me to simply disregard how obnoxious its fans have been in my experiences with them. I do have quite a back log of games, though... quite a back log indeed. First I have to finish BioShock, then I have to burn through Final Fantasy VII, then I have to decide whether the next game I play will be Final Fantasy VIII, Final Fantasy Tactics, Infamous, Lost Odyssey, or Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine.
Aahh I see that is quite the back catalog! But hey, when you do finally get through those games, if you still have it in you, I'm sure you can give FF6 a go ;P
Lost Odyssey is also pretty damn good!
 

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superspartan004 said:
There are multiple things wrong here

1. if someone's annoying, mute them
2. spawncamping is a strategy, and if given the opportunity you'd spawn trap too, you wouldn't back off to give the opponent the chance to gain map control
3. The only map glitch known in the game was taken off the playlists months ago
4. In terms of competitiveness Halo: Reach is actually the worst of all the Halo's. The DMR Bloom adds a random element to the game that rewards the unskilled if they spam and get lucky and it slows down the killtimes and gameplay
1. I do, frequently.
2. Spawncamping is not a strategy. It is never a strategy. It is a cheap way to "win" employed by people who can't play. It is also very, very annoying.
3. If you're referring to the ONI Facility ledge glitch, I am aware. But there are other exploits too. I am also aware they seem to have fixed the ledge glitch on another map, but I forget the name. (stock map, set in NA, suspended over the water) But there is still the odd exploit here and there, like the Living Dead playlist map that's set on top of the artificial cave in Forge world. People still manage to climb up there and camp on the cliff and on top of the structure.
4. What the dickens is DMR Bloom?
 

Trivea

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Final Fantasy. I do genuinely like the different gameplay mechanics and typically I'm rather fond of the stories as well as most of the characters, but the fans are just embarrassing...

And on the OP's post, the Halo fans are the main reason that I DON'T play Halo.
 

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Idsertian said:
2. spawncamping is a strategy, and if given the opportunity you'd spawn trap too, you wouldn't back off to give the opponent the chance to gain map control
Devil's advocate here. I actually also despise spawn camping and generally only play on servers (in TF2, the only game applicable to this discussion that I play) that will kick you for spawn camping. That said, you have to really fail as a team to allow spawn camping to happen. It shouldn't be so easy for the other team to gain that initial control your territory. Spawn camping is really punishing your team for that failure.

But, like I said, I hate it too. It really sucks the fun out of the experience, especially when your teammates aren't so good.
 

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BlueSinbad said:
Aahh I see that is quite the back catalog! But hey, when you do finally get through those games, if you still have it in you, I'm sure you can give FF6 a go ;P
Lost Odyssey is also pretty damn good!
So I hear. I'm somewhat nervous, though, because everybody I've ever met who played it told me that it made them cry. I'm just not a crier, and I don't want to be the one emotionally detached fuckass who didn't cry at Lost Odyssey.