Games accused of promoting racism and sexism!

[Steelfists]

The hilarious thing is that she'll be dead in 30 years, and I won't.

 

[Dr. wonderful]

...This is why I hate these shows, they are made so that the defendent will lose.

...

Then again this guy hardly did anything at all. I mean, these people are lazy and weak. "Video games are bad for our children!"

...

So is art; photography, politics, Fishing, gambling, porn, Conservatives, mind rapes, and etc etc.

The thing is, these Parents today don't ever do research:

EVER!

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ptitlerax1116nu5ji

EDIT X 2: Lucky bastard...

 

[Dark Angel Warlord]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryH2WemACIM

Enjoy yelling at the screen at the clueless old bint!

some people are not happy unless they are crying about something

 

[Echo136]

That guy did a great job. He was just being outmuscled by just about everyone in the room, which was entirely unfair. Nobody there seemed like they had looked at it from both sides of the argument but the video gamer.

 

[Sonofadiddly]

There is no sexism, gaming or otherwise. The inequity of our genders in inherent to societal standards that are contradictory and inexplicable. Why ladies first? Why never hit women? Why be the one to ask her out, propose marriage, or never strike her if she strikes you?

Feminism is tantamount to hypocrisy, only it more specifically regards matters of gender rather than maters as a whole. If women are tired of being objectified by chauvinistic men (passively or overtly) then it behooves them to abandon materialism in exchange for affection. Give a girl a jewelry, a night on the town, or some other generic gift, and her reward to you is to please you with sexual favors? Utter hypocrisy.

Even better, those women that wonder how rich single man manage to stay single.

The discussion is moot, considering the standards already in place by westernized society. Funny this topic came up, considering it was on my mind a little while ago.

This commercial always comes to mind when I think about this topic.

As for racism, I am ashamed that people of my race are depicted with bird's nests for hairdo's and Cole Train makes me cringe each and every time he opens his token black mouth, but it's not all bad. Sergeant Major Johnson from Halo and Anderson in Mass Effect were pretty likable if not a bit shallow. There are better examples, I'm sure.

As a female, I have to point out that I am not impressed by shiney expensive rocks, and each time I get one I am disappointed that it's not a video game. That commercial is stupid and does not represent women as a whole. Try to remember that.

 

[Frogman54]

If i were the host of the show id bring out a 62inch tv and a 360/ps3 and make them play Modern Warfare 2 during the conversation lol.

 

[Julianking93]

My god that ***** is worse than Jack Thompson.

But really, who gives a shit?

These people will never shut down the gaming industry. Its a 9 billion dollar a year business and they think their psudoscience and bullshit studies will get people to stop playing games?

What a bunch of fucking idiots.

 

[Georgie_Leech]

Gasp, an articulate gamer who made the point, quite clearly, "Why the **** are you letting your kids play such violent games?"

 

[Icehearted]

There is no sexism, gaming or otherwise. The inequity of our genders in inherent to societal standards that are contradictory and inexplicable. Why ladies first? Why never hit women? Why be the one to ask her out, propose marriage, or never strike her if she strikes you?

Feminism is tantamount to hypocrisy, only it more specifically regards matters of gender rather than maters as a whole. If women are tired of being objectified by chauvinistic men (passively or overtly) then it behooves them to abandon materialism in exchange for affection. Give a girl a jewelry, a night on the town, or some other generic gift, and her reward to you is to please you with sexual favors? Utter hypocrisy.

Even better, those women that wonder how rich single man manage to stay single.

The discussion is moot, considering the standards already in place by westernized society. Funny this topic came up, considering it was on my mind a little while ago.

This commercial always comes to mind when I think about this topic.

As for racism, I am ashamed that people of my race are depicted with bird's nests for hairdo's and Cole Train makes me cringe each and every time he opens his token black mouth, but it's not all bad. Sergeant Major Johnson from Halo and Anderson in Mass Effect were pretty likable if not a bit shallow. There are better examples, I'm sure.

As a female, I have to point out that I am not impressed by shiney expensive rocks, and each time I get one I am disappointed that it's not a video game. That commercial is stupid and does not represent women as a whole. Try to remember that.

I do,but I was under the impression we were speaking as a whole and not about any specific person. Art imitates life, and how often is the damsel rescued, or some material thing offered, only for her to slip into something slinky and 'reward' the leading man? I know it isn't everyone, but by and large my point is irrefutable.

Another good example, just about any Axe commercial. If the gender roles were reversed, think hey' be just as amusing? Some guy rubbing his mic on a woman and sniffing it? I find it pretty idiotic either way, but apparently sex sells, and if a woman hits the stop button on an elevator to jump on a man she thinks smells great it's hot but if a guy did that it's rape.

Go fig.

 

[LiquidGrape]

There is no sexism, gaming or otherwise. The inequity of our genders in inherent to societal standards that are contradictory and inexplicable. Why ladies first? Why never hit women? Why be the one to ask her out, propose marriage, or never strike her if she strikes you?

Feminism is tantamount to hypocrisy, only it more specifically regards matters of gender rather than maters as a whole. If women are tired of being objectified by chauvinistic men (passively or overtly) then it behooves them to abandon materialism in exchange for affection. Give a girl a jewelry, a night on the town, or some other generic gift, and her reward to you is to please you with sexual favors? Utter hypocrisy.

Even better, those women that wonder how rich single man manage to stay single.

The discussion is moot, considering the standards already in place by westernized society. Funny this topic came up, considering it was on my mind a little while ago.

This commercial always comes to mind when I think about this topic.

As for racism, I am ashamed that people of my race are depicted with bird's nests for hairdo's and Cole Train makes me cringe each and every time he opens his token black mouth, but it's not all bad. Sergeant Major Johnson from Halo and Anderson in Mass Effect were pretty likable if not a bit shallow. There are better examples, I'm sure.

As a female, I have to point out that I am not impressed by shiney expensive rocks, and each time I get one I am disappointed that it's not a video game. That commercial is stupid and does not represent women as a whole. Try to remember that.

I do,but I was under the impression we were speaking as a whole and not about any specific person. Art imitates life, and how often is the damsel rescued, or some material thing offered, only for her to slip into something slinky and 'reward' the leading man? I know it isn't everyone, but by and large my point is irrefutable.

Another good example, just about any Axe commercial. If the gender roles were reversed, think hey' be just as amusing? Some guy rubbing his mic on a woman and sniffing it? I find it pretty idiotic either way, but apparently sex sells, and if a woman hits the stop button on an elevator to jump on a man she thinks smells great it's hot but if a guy did that it's rape.

Go fig.

And this reflects poorly on feminism because...?

 

[Lemon Of Life]

Dear me. That was painful to watch.

 

[bladeofdarkness]

wow
i'm 30 secs in and i already can't stand the guy
i especially "loved" the "should our children be exposed to violence" line
its wrong on at least 3 different ways

 

[Sonofadiddly]

I do,but I was under the impression we were speaking as a whole and not about any specific person. Art imitates life, and how often is the damsel rescued, or some material thing offered, only for her to slip into something slinky and 'reward' the leading man? I know it isn't everyone, but by and large my point is irrefutable.

Another good example, just about any Axe commercial. If the gender roles were reversed, think hey' be just as amusing? Some guy rubbing his mic on a woman and sniffing it? I find it pretty idiotic either way, but apparently sex sells, and if a woman hits the stop button on an elevator to jump on a man she thinks smells great it's hot but if a guy did that it's rape.

Go fig.

I agree that Axe commercials are ridiculous to the extreme, but I would argue against commercials being art, and say that advertisements distort reality in order to sell their product. Girls do not swarm over men wearing Axe. Women will not automatically love a man just because he gives her something shiney with a big price tag. Some women would, and that's a shame. But the way you were saying it made it seem like you believe that all women would do the same thing as the woman in the commercial. Many women aren't materialistic, and those commercials make me sad and angry. If I saw a woman do what she did, I would want to punch her in the back of the head.

 

[Icehearted]

There is no sexism, gaming or otherwise. The inequity of our genders in inherent to societal standards that are contradictory and inexplicable. Why ladies first? Why never hit women? Why be the one to ask her out, propose marriage, or never strike her if she strikes you?

Feminism is tantamount to hypocrisy, only it more specifically regards matters of gender rather than maters as a whole. If women are tired of being objectified by chauvinistic men (passively or overtly) then it behooves them to abandon materialism in exchange for affection. Give a girl a jewelry, a night on the town, or some other generic gift, and her reward to you is to please you with sexual favors? Utter hypocrisy.

Even better, those women that wonder how rich single man manage to stay single.

The discussion is moot, considering the standards already in place by westernized society. Funny this topic came up, considering it was on my mind a little while ago.

This commercial always comes to mind when I think about this topic.

As for racism, I am ashamed that people of my race are depicted with bird's nests for hairdo's and Cole Train makes me cringe each and every time he opens his token black mouth, but it's not all bad. Sergeant Major Johnson from Halo and Anderson in Mass Effect were pretty likable if not a bit shallow. There are better examples, I'm sure.

As a female, I have to point out that I am not impressed by shiney expensive rocks, and each time I get one I am disappointed that it's not a video game. That commercial is stupid and does not represent women as a whole. Try to remember that.

I do,but I was under the impression we were speaking as a whole and not about any specific person. Art imitates life, and how often is the damsel rescued, or some material thing offered, only for her to slip into something slinky and 'reward' the leading man? I know it isn't everyone, but by and large my point is irrefutable.

Another good example, just about any Axe commercial. If the gender roles were reversed, think hey' be just as amusing? Some guy rubbing his mic on a woman and sniffing it? I find it pretty idiotic either way, but apparently sex sells, and if a woman hits the stop button on an elevator to jump on a man she thinks smells great it's hot but if a guy did that it's rape.

Go fig.

And this reflects poorly on feminism because...?

I'm feeling baited here...
Simple answer; Equal rights without equal responsibility is not equality, which was the alleged platform of feminism. We know better, feminism is about having your cake and eating it too. Far be it for me to pass judgment on how anything reflects on feminism poorly. I'm only stating the obvious, summarily reflected by the word hypocrisy. Sexism and racism are not exclusive to any one gender or race, after all.

 

[Escapefromwhatever]

You know, my first idea for a response to this thread was a long-winded argument about how the gamer guy was in the right, as well as variously pointing out the silliness of the other side. But now, I see that such a post would be meaningless. Guys, this is just another Dr. Phil-esque show where the makers of the program scare their audience with nonexistent threats in order to get ratings, as well as occasionally telling them what they want to hear. Announcing to people that the moral fabric of society is falling apart is almost a good way to catch a curious ear. Its all just a ploy for money nestled underneath the banner of protecting the children. It seems to me that the best way to deal with this kind of hate speech is just to ignore it. Video games make far too much money for any real threat to come from people such as this. I mean, do you think Bobby Kotick gives a damn what these people say?

 

[Icehearted]

@Sonofadiddly

Movies, books, whatever you like. Though one could also argue that art is subjective.

I don't mean to come across as stating that all women are materialists, though I can understand how one might see the implication. Truth be told, it's been my experience that for most women that I've met in my life, love is a tangible asset to be doled out proportionately for goods or services. I don't blame women for things being like this in our culture, I blame everyone that furthers this idea, men and women alike.

 

[zenoaugustus]

I think a lot of people have used video games as a scape goat for how bad kids are turning out nowadays. Maybe parents should stop pointing the finger and look at themselves first.

 

[spike0918]

L4D2, for having the "gall" to include black zombies when it takes place in freakin New Orleans!

Read *facepalm*.