Games blamed for rape... in JERSEY?!?

[santacolia]

After first ignoring a heavily-built man, he turned his attention to a 19-year-old who was making her way home from town late on 13 October. After following her to the Westmount area, he forced her into a field at knifepoint before subjecting her to brutal rape.

What a fucking coward.

If you were intending to mug or rape, i'm sure you would not got for the guy who is twice as big as you.

Anyway, games had nothing to do with this. Stupid paper.

If the police got the info out of him that his sole intention was to mug someone and he had second thoughts on it when someone who could overpower him came along, he's a fucking coward.

He intended to mug someone but being a sexual predator (who are opportunists) the minute he saw a pretty young girl he did something terrible to someone who he felt couldn't fight back.

Also note that it was described as a "brutal rape", that means the poor girl was seriously hurt.

To be fair, I don't give a damn about the girl. My only problem is you're calling him a coward for being sensible. Sensible about a crime, yes. But sensible nonetheless. Lets see you fight someone twice your size.

Yes, next time you rape and seriously hurt someone, be sensible! Because reason and a healthy mind have everything to do with this kids actions. The sensible thing to do would be to blow off steam some easier way and not go to jail for four years. He's just a psycho who needs his dick removed. And a coward at that. Not wanting to get beat up might be sensible, but raping a girl you at random and getting caught and branded as a rapist isn't in any way sensible either. Can't you just realize that he wasn't really thinking? There is something wrong with his brain and anyone who hurts or kills innocent people.

 

[Chardan]

Well, I think I went to school with this guy, if its the guy I remember then he had just started Hautlieu. Shame he did this because 2/3's of Jersey adults read the JEP everyday, and now lots of people are going to take the paper's opinion as the truth. But still....at least we have nice beaches here in Jersey.

Identify him so /v/ can get their revenge.

He was two years below me, I only saw him, didn't know his name though.

 

[Dogstile]

After first ignoring a heavily-built man, he turned his attention to a 19-year-old who was making her way home from town late on 13 October. After following her to the Westmount area, he forced her into a field at knifepoint before subjecting her to brutal rape.

What a fucking coward.

If you were intending to mug or rape, i'm sure you would not got for the guy who is twice as big as you.

Anyway, games had nothing to do with this. Stupid paper.

If the police got the info out of him that his sole intention was to mug someone and he had second thoughts on it when someone who could overpower him came along, he's a fucking coward.

He intended to mug someone but being a sexual predator (who are opportunists) the minute he saw a pretty young girl he did something terrible to someone who he felt couldn't fight back.

Also note that it was described as a "brutal rape", that means the poor girl was seriously hurt.

To be fair, I don't give a damn about the girl. My only problem is you're calling him a coward for being sensible. Sensible about a crime, yes. But sensible nonetheless. Lets see you fight someone twice your size.

Yes, next time you rape and seriously hurt someone, be sensible! Because reason and a healthy mind have everything to do with this kids actions. The sensible thing to do would be to blow off steam some easier way and not go to jail for four years. He's just a psycho who needs his dick removed. And a coward at that.

Ok, fine, so maybe sensible wasn't the right word. Maybe it was just a natural thing to stop himself from getting his ass physically destroyed by the bigger guy. Doesn't change the fact that /that/ in itself isn't cowardice, it's being careful.

 

[Simon Hadow]

A girl told her parents that she was late coming home because she got raped once, but it turned out she lied to stay out of trouble, but that's about the closest thing.

 

[jimduckie]

gee in canada he would get slap on the wrist ,maybe a little time behind bars or psychiatric hospital and put back into society

yeah our country is soft on crime , no death penalty and life in prison is only 25 years ... pure bullshit if you ask me

 

[santacolia]

After first ignoring a heavily-built man, he turned his attention to a 19-year-old who was making her way home from town late on 13 October. After following her to the Westmount area, he forced her into a field at knifepoint before subjecting her to brutal rape.

What a fucking coward.

If you were intending to mug or rape, i'm sure you would not got for the guy who is twice as big as you.

Anyway, games had nothing to do with this. Stupid paper.

If the police got the info out of him that his sole intention was to mug someone and he had second thoughts on it when someone who could overpower him came along, he's a fucking coward.

He intended to mug someone but being a sexual predator (who are opportunists) the minute he saw a pretty young girl he did something terrible to someone who he felt couldn't fight back.

Also note that it was described as a "brutal rape", that means the poor girl was seriously hurt.

To be fair, I don't give a damn about the girl. My only problem is you're calling him a coward for being sensible. Sensible about a crime, yes. But sensible nonetheless. Lets see you fight someone twice your size.

Yes, next time you rape and seriously hurt someone, be sensible! Because reason and a healthy mind have everything to do with this kids actions. The sensible thing to do would be to blow off steam some easier way and not go to jail for four years. He's just a psycho who needs his dick removed. And a coward at that.

Ok, fine, so maybe sensible wasn't the right word. Maybe it was just a natural thing to stop himself from getting his ass physically destroyed by the bigger guy. Doesn't change the fact that /that/ in itself isn't cowardice, it's being careful.

All right, I understand. He isn't a coward. I guess his other horrible traits are making us biased. He'd probably have been better off as a coward, no? Too scared to get into trouble would've been nice for everyone. But I was viewing him emotionally. Bias aside, you are right though.

 

[Sir Prize]

All I'll say is that people use videogames to push the blame off of parents or society in general. When I read this I just rolled my eyes and thought 'what about his mother, didn't she try to stop him'. Also he might have just have easily picked it up from tv or movies even, it's just because videogames are an easy target because of research on them, which have also shown similar results with tv programmee and alike.

 

[AlexWinter]

Hell, I'm sure living on Jersey had much more of an influence than the videogames.

sorry, i had art today. I HATE ESCHER!!!

OT: so basically, he got really really pissed off, when out looking for trouble, and thought, I must as well rape this girl after senselessly beating her. Nothing to do with games at all.

 

[Deleted]

Well, I think I went to school with this guy, if its the guy I remember then he had just started Hautlieu. Shame he did this because 2/3's of Jersey adults read the JEP everyday, and now lots of people are going to take the paper's opinion as the truth. But still....at least we have nice beaches here in Jersey.

Identify him so /v/ can get their revenge.

He was two years below me, I only saw him, didn't know his name though.

Now you wish you made the trade for the eyes, eh?

 

[Erana]

War games?
Isn't the point of those... Well, to be fighting a war? As in, you're playing the Allied forces, and trying to save people?

Or are they saying that being a soldier promotes rape?

 

[squid5580]

And so the paranoia has begun. Ok everyone take a deep breath. Now read the article again. It doesn't blame video games. It is stating simple facts.
Fact: He was playing "war" games
Fact: He had a fight with his mom over his gaming
Fact: he stormed out of the house after the fight.

Nowhere does trhe article say "because of gaming he did this" or games had this type of influence. Would you guys only have been happy if the article had read boy rapes girl in Jersey. Is that really so much better than boy has arguement with mom over games. Later rapes girl. Draw your own conclusion.

Funny how when we are here we are gamers. We stand up and we scream to the heavens "I am gamer". But out there in the real world we don't want people to know. If they did find out they might make an article about a gamer who did something bad. If we want to associate it with our identity then we gotta face the good with the bad. And try to tell the difference. not every article about games puts gamers in a bad light.

It doesn't say outright that games are to blame, but its implied, what is every one that reads it going to jump too

Some people will jump to that conclusion. There is some people who will jump to that conclusion even if the article mentioned he was a puppy breeder and never mentioned games once. There is a world of difference between playing the 7 degrees of video game violence and simple reporting. This falls smack dab on the reporting side. There is nothing wrong with them explaining the events leading up to the event. If you replaces every "war game" in the article with baseball would that make baseball players look bad? Would it draw some line between baseball and rape? Or would the article still read a baseball player did a very bad thing. Just like it reads now that a gamer did a very bad thing. Not that games had anything to do with anything. He happens to be a gamer and he raped a girl. That is all.

Just because we are gamers doesn't mean we can't also be criminals. It is as if the article said he was black. Now would the mention of him being black reflect on the entire black community? Or would it read as a black man did something bad.

 

[Ravenbom]

Typical. Everyone and thing except the person who commits the crime is at fault. Might as well blame the kitchen knife while we're at it.

 

[Nemu]

Jesus christ. Yet another story about shitty parents letting games (and/or tv) babysit their brats.

Here's an idea folks, 14-year-olds should be outside, kick them outside.

I've had video games since I was 7 years old (and I'm 34 now). Not only did I grow up in a (relatively) healthy household, I haven't committed a felony! Make yer stupid brats take up a sport, or writing or painting, or go to the frickin' movies with friends they can actually SEE versus the ones they chat with anonymously and MAYBE, just maybe, they won't all turn out socially inept virgins or psychopaths who use their hobbies as an excuse to not take responsibility in ANY way.


meh.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

 

[TheSuperSonic1]

When will GTA4's reign of tyranny over our feeble existance ever end!!!

 

[Blackjack 222]

And so the paranoia has begun. Ok everyone take a deep breath. Now read the article again. It doesn't blame video games. It is stating simple facts.
Fact: He was playing "war" games
Fact: He had a fight with his mom over his gaming
Fact: he stormed out of the house after the fight.

Nowhere does trhe article say "because of gaming he did this" or games had this type of influence. Would you guys only have been happy if the article had read boy rapes girl in Jersey. Is that really so much better than boy has arguement with mom over games. Later rapes girl. Draw your own conclusion.

Funny how when we are here we are gamers. We stand up and we scream to the heavens "I am gamer". But out there in the real world we don't want people to know. If they did find out they might make an article about a gamer who did something bad. If we want to associate it with our identity then we gotta face the good with the bad. And try to tell the difference. not every article about games puts gamers in a bad light.

It doesn't say outright that games are to blame, but its implied, what is every one that reads it going to jump too

Some people will jump to that conclusion. There is some people who will jump to that conclusion even if the article mentioned he was a puppy breeder and never mentioned games once. There is a world of difference between playing the 7 degrees of video game violence and simple reporting. This falls smack dab on the reporting side. There is nothing wrong with them explaining the events leading up to the event. If you replaces every "war game" in the article with baseball would that make baseball players look bad? Would it draw some line between baseball and rape? Or would the article still read a baseball player did a very bad thing. Just like it reads now that a gamer did a very bad thing. Not that games had anything to do with anything. He happens to be a gamer and he raped a girl. That is all.

Just because we are gamers doesn't mean we can't also be criminals. It is as if the article said he was black. Now would the mention of him being black reflect on the entire black community? Or would it read as a black man did something bad.

But its the simple fact, that the journalist KNOWS the response of people reading it, he knows that by mentioning war games, that people will assume video games are to blame, and that will cause more shit to enter the shit storm of anti-gaming.
Most of us here are talking about how games are not to blame, and arguing with the message he has hidden(hidden like a tank in a tree). The writer is using the words to put the thought that because he played games they are to blame, and idiots reading it will assume all gamers will have this result

 

[Flames66]

After first ignoring a heavily-built man

Now I'm sorry but that bit craked me up. Especially after this bit.

with the intention of mugging the first person he saw

[sub] I know its poor taste but still [/sub]

OT: Yes it's horrible, and no it isn't because he plays games that he did what he did...Unforchantly(sp) ever since a mass murderer was found to be a war gamer, games have been the devils advoate...which is utter ballshit.

Indeed. Many murderers have been highly religious, but you don't hear much about that. The problem is that the gaming community as a whole, is not respected. We need to take a stand against public opinion. (don't ask me how though, someone else can work that out)

 

[Phototoxin]

There wasn't this outrage against catcher in the rye... i just don't understand...

 

[Ironic]

Once again, people see a causal relationship and just assumes it goes the way that's convenient for them. Why this hasn't been made into something like Godwin's Law is beyond me. It's like saying that because Hitler was a vegetarian, then vegetarianism causes genocide.

Carrots might have feelings, so who knows...

It's true though, what with all the social and media influence of "if theres something bad happening there must be an outside trigger blah blah pseudo-science" people are ready to blame anything.

I.e. A child is abused by a parent, runs away, lives on the street, at some point gets hooked on smack and stabs a guy 10 years later for money, for smack.
Do you blame: the person?
the drugs?
the parent?
or society?

 

[blindthrall]

I can't really think of a game where you could rape somebody, and while some games mention it, I've never even heard of one where a rape actually happens.

At first I thought you meant NEW Jersey, and I was kind of surprised one rape even made it into the papers.

To be fair, I don't give a damn about the girl. My only problem is you're calling him a coward for being sensible. Sensible about a crime, yes. But sensible nonetheless. Lets see you fight someone twice your size.

So you think he's sensible?.

Your right, although he probably learned that little don't fight bigger shits than you from WOW or Borderlands.

If he'd played a game like Unreal where you don't level up so its all about reactions times then he would have taken on Big Fella instead of raping a girl that no one cares about.

edit, whats fair about not giving a damn about a girl that got raped?, could someone explain that to me please.

Maybe he just didn't want to rape a fat guy.

EDIT: To the post above me-All four are valid targets, but blaming the drugs or society does no good, they're always going to be around and fucked up and there's no way to change it. The parent could be the root cause, but 10 years is enough time to come to terms with your childhood demons. So I guess I put most of the blame on the individual. Some people have horrible lives but through strength of character are still decent, while some are provided with everything and still become douchebags.

"Why is he attacking the other elephants?"

"Elephants are alot like people, Mrs. Simpson. Some were treated badly, some don't fit into the herd, and some are just...jerks."

 

[Halceon]

Let's see... the last rape/murder case was committed by a school dropout. Then there was a bum murdered before that... and the occasional robbery. No connections to games, though. Did i mention that this is a 10k inhabitant town?