Games that aren't all that

[Lord Mountbatten Reborn]

I disagree with the OP's opinion of Deus Ex. It deserves all the praise it gets.

Anyways, on-topic, Call of Duty: World at War seems to still inexplicably be selling well (the singleplayer was only saved by the Russian campaign's Sgt. Reznov), and everyone loves the Nazi Zombies game. It was nice, but the novelty really wore off after I'd played it after a while.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Can someone tell me why is it that I love Valve, love FPS games, love zombies...

... yet I got bored of Left 4 Dead after playing it twice?

 

[Dr. Wily III]

Ocarina of Time!!1

Game of all time? Yeah, right...

Well, I should start to run for my life now shouldn't I?

 

[Optimus Hagrid]

Can someone tell me why is it that I love Valve, love FPS games, love zombies...

... yet I got bored of Left 4 Dead after playing it twice?

I have to say, Counter Strike is much more guilty of this crime.

It's just that very, very little actually happens. I grow bored.

 

[CrazT]

halo 3. seriously, guys, why the hype? ok, halo 1 made an FPS work on a console with excellent controls, a pretty good story and varied levels. halo 2's story started to slip around the middle section (it just felt too long, and the arbiter sections didn't help!), while controls and levels remained varied. but the game revolusionised console gaming again with online multi-player, which was undeniably stunning!

halo 3's single-player campaign was criminally short and repetitive, with a story that was just attrocious! and the online multi-player was...essentially the same as halo 2s, but nicer to look at. nothing was, or is, original about halo 3 when compared to its predecessors, so i'm perplexed as to how it was a huge success?!

 

[Gyrefalcon]

bioshock and fallout 3 were horrible after the hype died and i got them a year after that

OK even I wouldn't call Bioshock that bad....And Fallout 3? I think Yahtzee's review sums that game up pretty well.

i couldn't get into either of them because they try to be realistic but fantasy at the same time. ie:big daddys still being steam powered. i suppose i didnt give fallout 3 much of a chance i played for the first 5 missions and got so bloody bored and confused i traded it in for whipde doo, bioshock
and theres that immersion raping fact that everyone in both games are so stiff when you talk to them. but hey just my opinion.

Really this falls once again on the problem of over-hype. I liked Bioshock, and sadly, it probably WAS one of the best games of the year that it was released in. I didn't mind the Big Daddy's running on steam, what does an underwater city have in abundance? And remember, the makers of the city left the rest of the world behind decades ago. It is effectively an "alternate reality" path set in it's own pocket within our universe.

But stiff? Lol, go play Dark Cloud or Brave Fencer Musashi and then come back to it. It will shine like a gem then! (Hee hee hee.)

 

[henrebotha]

HALO.

Dear gods.

So it's a nice FPS. So fucking what? A hundred thousand other games on every conceivable platform do exactly the same thing.

See, that's the problem.... other games on other platforms do the same thing as Halo because Halo set the standard for today's FPS's and there are elements that started in Halo that so many other games copy.

I can admit that Halo fanboys can get annoying and there are a lot of teenage douchebags that play it, if you can admit that it did remarkable things for the genre.

I distinctly remember playing FPS games before Halo came out. Regardless: what elements did Halo revolutionise?

 

[Rob Sharona]

Assassins Creed is really over rated imo,

Who overrates it?? I think pretty much across the board people say it's a beautiful game with excellent game mechanics, but is ultimately let down by being repetitive and boring after a while.

 

[TPiddy]

I distinctly remember playing FPS games before Halo came out. Regardless: what elements did Halo revolutionise?

The Halo control system for consoles has been copied ad nauseum for years now. Not to mention multiplayer, regenerating health, vehicles, etc.

If you don't think it changed the genre you just have a general hatred towards it.

 

[henrebotha]

I distinctly remember playing FPS games before Halo came out. Regardless: what elements did Halo revolutionise?

The Halo control system for consoles has been copied ad nauseum for years now. Not to mention multiplayer, regenerating health, vehicles, etc.

If you don't think it changed the genre you just have a general hatred towards it.

No, I don't think it changed the genre because I can't see how it did. Furthermore, I asked for someone to explain to me exactly how it changed the genre, and instead of giving me a real answer, you just mentioned "multiplayer" (obviously you don't mean it invented multiplayer, so what do you mean?), "regenerating health" (loads of games feature that, so again I'm not sure what you mean), and "vehicles" (yet again, I've seen other games with vehicles).

If all it revolutionised is the control system (and I don't really understand how the control system is different), I wouldn't say it's deserving of the praise it gets.

 

[Satin6T]

Final Fantasy VII
It's not terrible but I just don't see why it gets so much praise. I personally think some of the other FFs are much better.

VII is all about nostalgia, first game I ever played (yea I know). In all honesty X is the best FF. The characters were developed better and the combat system finally solved the problems with turned based.

But for this thread ALL the Final Fantasies. Whats up with that? I don't even know why I keep playing them. They're like big way too long interactive movies. But nevertheless every time one comes out I go buy it with out a second thought. When XII came out I bought a PS2 again just to play it.

I think Square brainwashed me when I was kid.

It's ok. Square did that to a lot of us when we were younger...

I completely disagree, I still love playing FF7 up untill the part where cloud goes into the coma and then I stop
I couldn't get anywhere in FF10
I hated ALL OF THE CHARACTERS
but I digress
I don't believe that KOTOR is the greatest game of all time like some do
it feels like a George Lucas JRPG to me

 

[Just_Karol]

Banjo Kazooie, I can't pretend to like it anymore..

 

[afaceforradio]

Deus Ex was a fun game, but it was not worthy of being called game of the year. And I beat this game twice.

Same with Bioshock. I beat it, and now I want my money back.

The sims. After 2 hours I starved them all, removed the toilets, and let the house burn down...Actually that was a lot of fun.

Mwahaha - couldn't agree more about the Sims. I made a tiny house, 1 room, no furniture, 1 mom, 1 dad and about a thousand manky children all running around in white vests and blue jeans. They all died. Shame.

And any Star Wars game a-going. Episode III was okay just yeesh. More repetitive than dance music.

 

[L3m0n_L1m3]

Halo
Gears of War
World of Warcraft

I don't understand these games at all.

 

[TPiddy]

No, I don't think it changed the genre because I can't see how it did. Furthermore, I asked for someone to explain to me exactly how it changed the genre, and instead of giving me a real answer, you just mentioned "multiplayer" (obviously you don't mean it invented multiplayer, so what do you mean?), "regenerating health" (loads of games feature that, so again I'm not sure what you mean), and "vehicles" (yet again, I've seen other games with vehicles).

If all it revolutionised is the control system (and I don't really understand how the control system is different), I wouldn't say it's deserving of the praise it gets.

Ok, so name a POPULAR FPS that came out before Halo:CE that featured vehicles in it's multiplayer.... name a POPULAR FPS that came out before Halo featuring regenerating health/ overshields.

Stop being so critical of something you don't understand.

 

[henrebotha]

No, I don't think it changed the genre because I can't see how it did. Furthermore, I asked for someone to explain to me exactly how it changed the genre, and instead of giving me a real answer, you just mentioned "multiplayer" (obviously you don't mean it invented multiplayer, so what do you mean?), "regenerating health" (loads of games feature that, so again I'm not sure what you mean), and "vehicles" (yet again, I've seen other games with vehicles).

If all it revolutionised is the control system (and I don't really understand how the control system is different), I wouldn't say it's deserving of the praise it gets.

Ok, so name a POPULAR FPS that came out before Halo:CE that featured vehicles in it's multiplayer.... name a POPULAR FPS that came out before Halo featuring regenerating health/ overshields.

Stop being so critical of something you don't understand.

You are missing everything I'm saying.

I'm not being critical of something I don't understand.

I'm asking for someone to explain the things I don't understand.

Read my post again. "I asked for someone to explain to me exactly how it changed the genre."

 

[TPiddy]

You are missing everything I'm saying.

I'm not being critical of something I don't understand.

I'm asking for someone to explain the things I don't understand.

Read my post again. "I asked for someone to explain to me exactly how it changed the genre."

Ok, so when you ask to explain it, and I say, "features a, b, c were originated in Halo and are copied in other games now", and you say, "Well, I've seen that feature and that feature before", without backing it up, leads me to think you just try to tear down Halo's accomplishments so you can feel better about yourself for hating it.

Provide some evidence that Halo did not heavily influence the console FPS genre and maybe I'll believe you.

 

[KedynCrow]

When I was in high-school, everyone was positively mad about Gran Tourismo. So I sat down to give it a shot, winced at the controls and jaw-grinding tracks, and decided that I'd be better off simply finding new friends.

 

[Julianking93]

Total agree with the Bioshock. It was okay, just not great.

Same with Fallout 3. I loved it, and I spent a lot of time with it, but I wouldn't say its worth Game of the Year along with GTAIV.

Which brings me to my next point, GTAIV sucked nutsacks, yet it got just about every single fucking GOTY award. It wasn't any different than the other ones.

 

[Gutterslime]

I cant think of a better example than Gears of War, meh at best, so what if the graphics were good, it was pretty much the slowest shooter i've ever played, horible single player, multiplayer left much to be desired in all aspects, not to mention some of the most generic characters ever, the only thing missing is ron pearlman shit on you after you kill Raam

So you basically missed the entire point of it. Gears was designed as a third person shooter implementing a cover system to give you intentionally slow, intense firefights. It rewards flanking and strategy, not twitch shooting like CoD and Halo. If you don't like what they were trying to do, fine, but to say that it wasn't good because you were expecting something else is really just you being misinformed.

I did not miss the point of gears, I saw what they were trying to do, but it was executed quite poorly in my opinion, there was nothing in that game that had not been done better in the past, the cover system that gave us "intentionally slow, intense firefights" felt like you were playing time crisis with a controller instead of a lightgun and pedal, and I also have a hard time believing a game with regenerating health rewards strategy of any kind, and further more, If the game was so focused on strategy, why was more than a fair portion of the game devoted to sequences that took no skill at all (e.g. the corpser battle, all of the berserker battles, Raam, or any of the other countless segments that were getting on a turret, or hammer of dawn and blasting everything to shit)