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The Madman said:
Knights of the Old Republic 2

If you're ever played this game with the Restored Content Mod you'll know what I mean when I say this game had the potential to not just be better than the first game, but to absolutely blow it away in nearly every regard. The gameplay was more diverse and better balanced, the story was extremely compelling, the characters you interact with fantastically well realized. Only problem? Never finished. It was clearly shipped incomplete (Yes I know why!) and even with amazing mods like the above it's just never been allowed to reach that high promise.
Agreed, i'd also like to see Mount & Blade: Warband redone with some better AI. Forget F&S.
 

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I would honestly love to see a remake of the game Lair, which I feel could have been amazing if it wasn't for the shitty motion control gimmick. Get rid of the whole idea that you could only play the game when it first came out with the motion controls, which reacted like a 5 year old who was dropped on their head once a day every day. Even though they came out with a pack that allowed you to use the analog sticks, it still controlled like ASS.

In short, remake Lair with no motion control anything.
 

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I'm going to go with Mass Effect 2 playing more like Mass Effect the Original. Replace orbital resource mining with a better vehicle section (maybe a hover-craft: The Mako didn't feel like it had wheels to begin with). Also, I think I can safely say I'm the only person who thought the grenade system in ME1 was good. I do like that ME2 had a big cast of aliens who joined your party though. It would also have been nice if ME2 didn't include the fuck and shit words. I swear casually but it didn't seem necessary to have everyone suddenly learn what Fuck and Shit meant between ME1 and 2.

Knights of the Old Republic 2...it would have been nice for it to have been released as a completed game.

Duke Nukem 4-Ever - more weapon-slots than Duke has limbs, make The Devastator the least interesting weapon in the game (by adding interesting weapons in general), bring back health packs, take away mandatory turret sections, replace mandatory vehicle sections with optional jetpack ones, increase the variety of enemy types (slight changes like the berserk pigs don't count: palette swaps acceptable), stop trying to look like a modern shooter title since the market is already soaked through with those as it is. Also, rape jokes aren't acceptable.

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Dragon Age 2? Yeeeaaaah..Dragon Age 2..
Also that...it would have been nice to have got an actual sequel to Dragon Age Origins (instead of a spin-off). It may have the 2 at the end but it was more beat-em-up than anything.

I thought of more! Take any super-hero game made by LJN and redo it. Hell, just about any game by LJN should be given a second chance.

Turtles in Time: Re-Shelled! There is no reason for that game to have ended up like it did...none what so ever. It would have printed money if it was the same as the SNES version + the addition of better graphics + extra levels + additional characters. Granted the only ones people may want to play as would be Casey Jones and, Splinter (also the one person who genuinely likes Venus)

Full House Tournament Fighter! The original game actually caused a riff in space and time which caused most people to forget about its existence. People may be ready for it now.

Shaq-Fu! Take away the bullshit map screen, replace the original characters with other popular ballers from back in the day (like Pippin, Rodman and, Jordan to name three) and fix the hit detection for fucks sake.
 

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Grim Fandango - it should get a Special Edition with HD graphics, better characters done with more polygons and mouse control. It's one of the better stories ever in a PC and it' a shame it can't be fully appreciated.

Planescape Torment and Baldur's Gate should get better graphics and full-talkie versions. Again it's necessary to appreciate two masterpieces. The games don't need 3d graphics, just better HD graphics.

Final Fantasy VII - the same case

Wing Commander - maybe more than a remake it needs a reboot

Ultima - the same as Wing Commander.

X-Com - Oh, it's already happening! Great!
 

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Dragon Age: Origins with Dragon Age 2 combat gameplay.

Because when I press a button I want something awesome to happen. Button... awesome.
 

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The first Devil May Cry, you can feel certain parts of the action weighed down by its Resident Evil roots.
 

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Chromehounds. It had amazing multiplayer, hampered and killed off by balance issues and terrible servers.
 

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canadamus_prime said:
krellen said:
hazabaza1 said:
I'd really like to see Mass Effect 1 done over with the more modern gameplay. ME1 is just not fun to play, at all, which is a shame since y'know, story and choices and new characters to play through the trilogy with.
Funny, I was going to say Mass Effect 2 to make it play more like Mass Effect 1, because ME2 is just not fun to play. There's more than enough shooters out there, and "gamers" really need to stop stealing all franchises to become shooters. Mass Effect just wasn't made for you.
That's exactly what I was thinking. Well I wouldn't say ME2 was no fun at all, it certainly wasn't as fun as it's predecessor. Of course I'm one of the apparently extremely few people who actually enjoyed the Mako driving sections in ME1 so there ya go.
I third this. ME2 and ME3 are fun but I want number-crunching and looting back. Also Dragon Age II. I wish it was more like Origins.
 

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Any of the Bond games - make it a proper game tie in with actual difficulty....restart the series Casino Style and add in suaveness/chatting up the ladies/actual mission parameters and multiple mission outcomes, with consequences (at least within the mission). Steal from the Hitman style but make it Bond - if Q wants informtation on a missile depot and you spot some dodgy stuff either report back and suffer later mission consequences or try and take it all on there and then! Be brave and go traditional Goldeneye route (in terms of not being afraid to goi slightly liberal with the story), NOT that remade disappointment...lose the quicktime deaths every kill, make it tense! Make it hard for Godsake, traditional style!
 

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Surprised that no one has mentioned Oni- http://youtu.be/0UJ8KjdfmbU
That's a damned good beat'em up,even with polygons,hell,even the story caught my interest for what it was worth,but the combat and the control is just something to remember.Only game I know in which you can kick someone face off after shocking them while being invisible xD
 

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hazabaza1 said:
tthor said:
hazabaza1 said:
I'd really like to see Mass Effect 1 done over with the more modern gameplay. ME1 is just not fun to play, at all, which is a shame since y'know, story and choices and new characters to play through the trilogy with.
I liked mass effect 1's gameplay MUCH more than mass effect 2,; Tho I guess I'm the type who prefers the old fashioned 'charge head-on into enemies, throwing enemies left and right with psychic powers and shooting the survivors,' rather than the 'duck behind chest-high wall, shoot at enemy, duck back down, repeat'. (but then again, last time I played mass effect 1 or 2, it was on an incredibly slow computer, so that might have skewed some of the gameplay)
krellen said:
hazabaza1 said:
I'd really like to see Mass Effect 1 done over with the more modern gameplay. ME1 is just not fun to play, at all, which is a shame since y'know, story and choices and new characters to play through the trilogy with.
Funny, I was going to say Mass Effect 2 to make it play more like Mass Effect 1, because ME2 is just not fun to play. There's more than enough shooters out there, and "gamers" really need to stop stealing all franchises to become shooters. Mass Effect just wasn't made for you.
So, shooting somebody with an ungodly amount of assault rifle fire to the face and just have them run around like nothing happened is fun?
Or how the level design was quite simply not designed for combat, so around mid-game when you're taking the most damage there's hardly any way to take cover, that's fun?
Oh, and the ridiculously unbalanced difficulty curve, starting off piss easy, then getting more difficult, but then going back to piss easy once you near the end of the game! I had a hell of a time with that!
Oh, and enemy biotics stun locking me to death when I leave cover and try to, you know, do what a Vanguard does best. That was awesome.
But I suppose my best memories of Mass Effect would be my companions being absolutely retarded and ending up in close combat skirmishes with 5 enemy units whilst equipped with a sniper rifle. Man, this game had such good combat! And that's not even getting into the sticky as all shit cover system, and general lack of mobility!

Please. If a game is going to have "RPG-shooter" combat then the shooter bit needs to be at least competent.
This needed to be said. Thank you Hazabaza.

OT: Command and Conquer 4. It was awful. It wasn't even CnC! The gameplay was so different from every other game in the series and the ending was fresh unrefined bullshit imported directly from the Middle East.

Captcha: mushy peas
WTF?
 

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Lord Beautiful said:
Chaos Legion

In spite of its many flaws, there's potential in there to be something goddamn incredible.
A man after my heart.
NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Not really so much do overs as "fix this shit, and you have a great game on your hands":

FF8: Make it so that you learn spells, and can amplify them without making them useless in combat. Make summon animations skippable (for those who don't see a real bonus from boosting, especially on low level summons). Allow some interaction on Disc 4 without needing the GFs.

FFXII: Assign commands to different buttons in combat, allowing for more fluid battles. Give an actual F**King reason for Vaan and Penelo to be there.

FFXIII: Use FFX-2's combat style (not Dresssphere or Class change system), but bonuses for timing attacks together while keeping an active flow. DON'T FORCE GAME OVER IF PARTY LEADER FALLS. Let us assign actions for other combat members. DON'T FORCE GAME OVER IF PARTY LEADER FALLS. Give rewards for branching paths on the route. Allow grinding to get past tough sections. DON'T FORCE GAME OVER IF THE MOTHER F***ING PARTY LEADER FALLS.
Another man after my heart.
Plus they fixed the GAMEOVER WHEN LEADER DIES in XIII-2. Plus Grinding. Plus Being able to customize your characters and how they level.
Though the rest of the battle system is basicly the same outside of the fact your third party members being monsters.
 

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Alpha Protocol - Great choice and dialogue mechanics. Even decent level design with most missions allowing both stealth and gun-happy playthroughs. However, it was buggy, unbalanced (I killed the end boss in 5 seconds) and sloppily written. With a better, more focused team working on it and a serious balance pass made on the guns and skills it could be the best Deus Ex games since the original Deus Ex.
Well, this is all I was going to say. Though, as I heard constant bitching about the gunplay not being like Mass Effect, there would still be bitching unless they made it more like Mass Effect (personally, I liked AP's gunplay as it was.)

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Gorilla Gunk said:
Brink. That game had so much potential but the developers stuck themselves in a Catch-22: They wanted the game to be as different from the CoD's and Battlefields as possible but still wanted CoD/Battlefields numbers and player base.

How it could have been improved:

-MAKE IT THIRD PERSON! Parkour shit just doesn't work in first-person. The only reason it works in Mirror's Edge is because you aren't required to use a gun. Plus all the character customization would have a point. Seriously, look at this video and tell me the game doesn't already look 10x better in third-person: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ckkss9MDjMU

-Use another engine. I've always hated the Unreal 3 engine. Every game made on it is a mess of late-textures and pop-ins.

-There's a reason just about every online shooter has team deathmatch and capture the flag and king of the hill, because those game modes are FUN.

-Unless it has a sizable single-player campaign that isn't just multiplayer with bots, make it a XBLA/PSN download. $15 should do it.
I was with you up until this part:

-There's a reason just about every online shooter has team deathmatch and capture the flag and king of the hill, because those game modes are FUN.
Fuck. No. (specifically, TDM or FFA or any varient there of)

Everything else I love, specially the thrid person. Wish that was in game.
 

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faspxina said:
Dragon Age: Origins with Dragon Age 2 combat gameplay.

Because when I press a button I want something awesome to happen. Button... awesome.
[a href= "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yff3jH8NECs"]Touch my awesome button[/a]

Don't agree, with your statement, but it reminded me of the video (the interview you're referencing reminded me of it too). Now we know where BioWare gets the ideas for their PR releases, wark, wark.
 

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Thatrocketeer said:
I was expecting this thread to turn into another ME discussion. Was not disappointed.

Anyways, I'd probably have to say Assassin's Creed: Revelations. If Ubisoft didn't focus on the frickin' minigames too much it would've been a great game. Tower defense is not necessary They could've improved the story, created more parkour obstacles, improved missions, hell, they could've even potentially made a Prince of Persia meets Assassin's Creed thing with the locale as well as the theme of the place.
Christ, anything but that. Ubisoft clung to ezio so much it was just getting depressing, I don't want to have to play ANOTHER game as him.
 

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hazabaza1 said:
I'd really like to see Mass Effect 1 done over with the more modern gameplay. ME1 is just not fun to play, at all, which is a shame since y'know, story and choices and new characters to play through the trilogy with.
I actually found ME1 to be the most fun to play. I think they'd throw away that awesome 80's dark sci-fi feel and focus on the combat too much.

Plus, when you're an adept in ME1, you really feel like you control the world. You can stack your powers. I LOVE picking up the Geth Armatures (the big white ones, I forget their name) with singularity, then lift and then throwing those fuckers. What a feeling, like being a slightly cooler Jedi.

By ME2, adepts, especially on harder difficulties, for a spectaculary untalented gamer like myself, are unplayable. I simply cannot dish out enough damage and my team mates always die.