Games that do NOT/did NOT deserve a sequel

[Snuggle]

Bioshock - Never completed the second one, but I just thought the first one tied everything up so well. No need for a sequel, and the second one just didn't do enough new things to make it interesting. Sure, you played as a Big Daddy now, but the core remained the exact same. Not all sequels are impaired by not inventing new gameplay elements, but Bioshock 2 was.

 

[BoxCutter]

Two Worlds. I don't think anyone will disagree here.

I came here to say this, the very fact that they are making a second one confuses and angers me beyond belief.

 

[Confidingtripod]

Mass effect 2 was filler...

not that I never had fun but it didnt live up to one e.g:ME1:the levels were unique and the uncharted worlds were wide open. ME2:three merc groups that it revolves between and linear side missons.

I understand they may be setting up 3 but did they really think a few lines important to the story needed the trauma of being next to hours of mindless shooting

*already being beaten to the ground by ME2 fans*

 

[cornmancer]

If Mass Effect was one game, it would be such a cluster fuck to processors no one would buy it.

... what the hell are you talking about? Something tells me you have no idea how computers work.

If Mass Effect 1, 2, and the inevitable 3 were all released at the same time it would take up ridiculous amounts of space, have ridiculous requirements of RAM and other things, and the at least 3 discs would raise the price. It wouldn't make sense plot wise for Mass Effect to be one game anyway. I don't claim to know much about computers, but I just think that having the entire Mass Effect trilogy in one package would not be reasonable. But like I said, I don't know all that much about computers, as you very said in a very assholish manner, so I'm just assuming. My apologies if I look like a moron.

 

[nick n stuff]

Army of Two in my opinion was a mediocre game and its sequel was even worse.

this...oh one thousand times this.
also, the fact that dawn of war 2 is not a patch on the first hurts me inside.

 

[Enemy Of The State]

Destroy All Humans. The idea of a sequel was amazing, because the original was the greatest game in my younger years. The execution was awful.

I liked that game!

 

[Megacherv]

Portal for fucks sake! Valve wont make Half Life Episode 3 they wont update TF2 on consoles they wont update Left 4 deads for consokes they dont care about theyre fans!

What're you on about? A) They ARE making Half-Life 2: Episode 3, Portal 2's story is related to it; B) Portal 2 expands the story on the original Portal

 

[Devil's Due]

If Mass Effect was one game, it would be such a cluster fuck to processors no one would buy it.

... what the hell are you talking about? Something tells me you have no idea how computers work.

If Mass Effect 1, 2, and the inevitable 3 were all released at the same time it would take up ridiculous amounts of space, have ridiculous requirements of RAM and other things, and the at least 3 discs would raise the price. It wouldn't make sense plot wise for Mass Effect to be one game anyway. I don't claim to know much about computers, but I just think that having the entire Mass Effect trilogy in one package would not be reasonable. But like I said, I don't know all that much about computers, as you very said in a very assholish manner, so I'm just assuming. My apologies if I look like a moron.

I agree with you here, the amount of space would be impossible, especially if they tried porting to the 360. You needed two discs alone to play ME2, imagine having all three parts of the series. And lets not talk about how long it would take to make the game. Some games, if taken a while, can be pretty good (IE: Alan Wake). Sadly, when you put games off for years to try and "perfect" it or put so much crap into it, the technology lags begin, also the case with Alan Wake. Now ME1 had pretty good graphics, but imagine it releasing sometime next year with all three games, with ME1's graphics, maybe even worse, because how long it'll take them.

They won't just reinvent the game after all that to update the graphics. Once they've done so many years, they'll be pushing that sucker out onto the streets.

(PS: Can anyone imagine playing the Mako again in all three Mass Effects? They removed it from ME2 because of so many complaints. If they released it all together, they wouldn't know. Ew!)

 

[maddawg IAJI]

Army of Two in my opinion was a mediocre game and its sequel was even worse.

this...oh one thousand times this.
also, the fact that dawn of war 2 is not a patch on the first hurts me inside.

What sucks about the 40th day is that it failed so horribly because they tried to do so much with it when compared to the first one. The biggest being the Morality system. Its an action Co-op shooter. You don't put Morality in Call of Duty do ya?

Another thing that sucked was the ending. the Prequel wasn't much better, but at least it made an attempt at a Boss fight. The 40th day just gives you a moral choice, even Fable II had a better boss then that. On the upside, it completely destroys any chance for a 3rd one.

 

[run_forrest_run]

I was trying to figure out if I wanted to talk about unnecessary fanservice in games, or needless sequels (no i'm not negative X3)

I decided to go with this one because it sounded less like a feminist rant.

SO! On Topic, there are many games out there that get sequels. Why? Why do they get them? Do they warrant these sequels? NO! They are just shameless cash-ins. I loved Bioshock, Bioshock 2 was ENTIRELY unnecessary. And of course, there will be a threequel (no it hasn't been announced but just you watch)

what about you? Is there a game and/or sequel out there you just want to see vanish?

THANK YOU! That game waas utter shite. Easily one of the worst gamess i've ever played in my life.

 

[cornmancer]

If Mass Effect was one game, it would be such a cluster fuck to processors no one would buy it.

... what the hell are you talking about? Something tells me you have no idea how computers work.

If Mass Effect 1, 2, and the inevitable 3 were all released at the same time it would take up ridiculous amounts of space, have ridiculous requirements of RAM and other things, and the at least 3 discs would raise the price. It wouldn't make sense plot wise for Mass Effect to be one game anyway. I don't claim to know much about computers, but I just think that having the entire Mass Effect trilogy in one package would not be reasonable. But like I said, I don't know all that much about computers, as you very said in a very assholish manner, so I'm just assuming. My apologies if I look like a moron.

I agree with you here, the amount of space would be impossible, especially if they tried porting to the 360. You needed two discs alone to play ME2, imagine having all three parts of the series. And lets not talk about how long it would take to make the game. Some games, if taken a while, can be pretty good (IE: Alan Wake). Sadly, when you put games off for years to try and "perfect" it or put so much crap into it, the technology lags begin, also the case with Alan Wake. Now ME1 had pretty good graphics, but imagine it releasing sometime next year with all three games, with ME1's graphics, maybe even worse, because how long it'll take them.

They won't just reinvent the game after all that to update the graphics. Once they've done so many years, they'll be pushing that sucker out onto the streets.

(PS: Can anyone imagine playing the Mako again in all three Mass Effects? They removed it from ME2 because of so many complaints. If they released it all together, they wouldn't know. Ew!)

I wouldn't mind the Mako being in all of them if it didn't handle like John Marston when he's trying to go through a doorway all the time. Other than the handling it was... functional.

 

[Woodsey]

Portal for fucks sake! Valve wont make Half Life Episode 3 they wont update TF2 on consoles they wont update Left 4 deads for consokes they dont care about theyre fans!

They never did. Valve is a collection of people indulging themselves.

Every 'planned trilogy' should've just been released as one game. Would've saved a fair number of IPs from near complete obscurity. Also forces developers to make better games, rather than doing the "half-ass" dance with each installment.

If Mass Effect was one game, it would be such a cluster fuck to processors no one would buy it.

For Episode 3 they'll do it when they feel they've got a solid idea - taking their time has never hurt any of their games (which can happen), and as long as that continues to be the case there is no reason to criticise them for it. Updating TF2 on the consoles is both harder to do than on the PC, and I'd imagine MS has something to do with it, as with L4D.

As for indulging themselves, they make the games they want, when they want, and they take their time. If that's them indulging themselves then that's fine by me. Don't get me started on their free DLC, support of for their games, Steamworks and Steam.

As for ME 1, 2 and 3 all being one game, the only thing that would change is the amount of hard drive space needed to install the game. No extra strain on the processor, RAM, or anything else.

I was trying to figure out if I wanted to talk about unnecessary fanservice in games, or needless sequels (no i'm not negative X3)

I decided to go with this one because it sounded less like a feminist rant.

SO! On Topic, there are many games out there that get sequels. Why? Why do they get them? Do they warrant these sequels? NO! They are just shameless cash-ins. I loved Bioshock, Bioshock 2 was ENTIRELY unnecessary. And of course, there will be a threequel (no it hasn't been announced but just you watch)

what about you? Is there a game and/or sequel out there you just want to see vanish?

THANK YOU! That game waas utter shite. Easily one of the worst gamess i've ever played in my life.

I take it Bioshock 1 and 2 are just about the only games you've played then, because I can never believe that you found Bioshock 2 to be so hideously worse than Bioshock.

 

[PeterDawson]

Force Unleashed I have to question as well. While an interesting enough game I can't fathom how the sequel will work. Granted I haven't checked the material on what the sequel's about, but the whole thing just lacks appeal to me. The plot holes of the first one were bad enough...

The game follows the ending to the first game in which

Spoiler: Dont open if you didn't beat The Force Unleashed

Starkiller dies. In TFU2, he is resurrected as a clone by Vader for some reason. There is evidence that Starkiller is not a clone, and trying to discover who or what you are is a major theme of the game.

Sounds kind of stupid to me, but with good execution it could work out all right.

Yeah I disagree, that sounds insanely contrived.

On the subject of not-needed games, I don't find as long as the plot and gameplay are both solid, even if the latter is mostly a cosmetic update from the first/last game. That said, Modern Warfare 2 should probably be on my list. Don't get me wrong, some of the scenarios were great, but the game's finale was idiotic and left several plot holes. I mean, the game's main feature, the whole FPS thing, is still fine, but the backdrop is garbage.

 

[Kungfu_Teddybear]

I hear that Too Human is getting a sequel and that game most certainly does NOT deserve a sequel.

 

[chinangel]

How did that piece of crap game called "Overlord" get an sequal?

Damnnn you! You got mine, good call sir.

"sir"...

forgive him hun, he knows not what he says

 

[Cynical skeptic]

If Mass Effect was one game, it would be such a cluster fuck to processors no one would buy it.

... what the hell are you talking about? Something tells me you have no idea how computers work.

If Mass Effect 1, 2, and the inevitable 3 were all released at the same time it would take up ridiculous amounts of space, have ridiculous requirements of RAM and other things, and the at least 3 discs would raise the price. It wouldn't make sense plot wise for Mass Effect to be one game anyway. I don't claim to know much about computers, but I just think that having the entire Mass Effect trilogy in one package would not be reasonable. But like I said, I don't know all that much about computers, as you very said in a very assholish manner, so I'm just assuming. My apologies if I look like a moron.

... My assessment of your understanding of computer technology remains completely unchanged.

Mass effect being a single game wouldn't be the same as playing all three games at the same time. The requirements would be equal to the first game, and even if the transition from three games to one included every single sidemission and character, it wouldn't even increase storage requirments all that much, as most of what drove up storage requirements of me2 were the stupid HD loading screens, higher resolution textures (applied completely randomly, in true bioware fashion), and HD cutscenes (that, of course, look like utter dogshit at any resolution beyond 720p).

 

[Nomanslander]

I think threads like these don't deserve sequels.

I mean I've only seen this exact thread on these forum 50 billion times now....-_-

 

[bossfight1]

While i was at PAX East, i saw a stand advertising Two Worlds 2. I instantly had fantasies of setting that stand on fire. Two Worlds was bad enough with it's horrendous voice acting and terrible combat. The only use a sequel would serve would be to give Graham and Paul something to do another Unskippable for.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

Bioshock 2 wasn't needed.

Left 4 dead 2 wasn't needed a year after the first

And I'm just gonna go ahead and say it, Final Fantasy as a whole. I'm fine with you making the games, as they really are only related to one another in flavor and name, but ffs, your just milking the final fantasy name when you get to 13, Versus 13, and Agito(?) 13. Come on.

They said ages and ages ago that FF13 was just one part of a trio of games based in the same universe. Also you can hardly complain about FF for this with Mario and Zelda and Pokemon.