Gamestop giving used Arkham City buyers Catwoman code

[ImSkeletor]

Okay I SPEND 60 dollars for the game from WB. I spend Less then 50 if I buy it used from gamestop. Since there is no code I am spending more then ten dollars less. That is how this works.

Then you admit that you are entirely motivated by self-interest and greed, rather than trying to prove some point about corporations screwing you over?

Man I don't have a lot of money. I can only buy like half a dozen games a year and the other two or three I get are gifts from family or friends. I would get even fewer if I didn't buy used. WB is giving me a crappy deal and I call that screwing me over. Gamestop is giving me a significantly better deal so I take that. Not giving WB my money IS proving a point to them, it just isn't my only motivation.

 

[Strixvaliano]

I must have come out of the bathroom to some bizaro universe. I'm actually agreeing with Gamestop on something. Hopefully they aren't paying for the codes to stick it up the craw of these dirt bag publishers.

 

[krazykidd]

I'm a bit confused as to his this makes sense. As already posted, where are they getting the codes? Only thing I can see is that they're actually buying themselves, which seems rather unlikely. But if that is the case, good on them for doing it.

Buy the codes for 10$ , sell used copy for 54$ ,44$ profit . Seems simple enough, no? They would make more money on the used copies than the new copies anyways . Bravo gamestop, bravo.

 

[Ordinaryundone]

Man I don't have a lot of money. I can only buy like half a dozen games a year and the other two or three I get are gifts from family or friends. I would get even fewer if I didn't buy used. WB is giving me a crappy deal and I call that screwing me over. Gamestop is giving me a significantly better deal so I take that. Not giving WB my money IS proving a point to them, it just isn't my only motivation.

I understand that, and I am sorry if I came across as high and mighty. Not my intention. But you can't call this a crappy deal because, frankly, you aren't losing anything by buying used. If you buy used, what you are getting is the game, nothing more, but the reviews have already said the game is 9+ even with Catwoman. So why complain? She's extra.

Its just a somewhat entitled attitude that gets on my nerves. DLC has gotten people into this mindset that they deserve it for free, because older games didn't have DLC. Its annoying.

 

[Epona]

I'm a bit confused as to his this makes sense. As already posted, where are they getting the codes? Only thing I can see is that they're actually buying themselves, which seems rather unlikely. But if that is the case, good on them for doing it.

Buy the codes for 10$ , sell used copy for 54$ ,44$ profit . Seems simple enough, no? They would make more money on the used copies than the new copies anyways . Bravo gamestop, bravo.

Well, you aren't taking into account that they are buying the games from customers so they are probably making closer to $25.

 

[Irridium]

Man I don't have a lot of money. I can only buy like half a dozen games a year and the other two or three I get are gifts from family or friends. I would get even fewer if I didn't buy used. WB is giving me a crappy deal and I call that screwing me over. Gamestop is giving me a significantly better deal so I take that. Not giving WB my money IS proving a point to them, it just isn't my only motivation.

I understand that, and I am sorry if I came across as high and mighty. Not my intention. But you can't call this a crappy deal because, frankly, you aren't losing anything by buying used. If you buy used, what you are getting is the game, nothing more, but the reviews have already said the game is 9+ even with Catwoman. So why complain? She's extra.

Its just a somewhat entitled attitude that gets on my nerves. DLC has gotten people into this mindset that they deserve it for free, because older games didn't have DLC. Its annoying.

To be fair, Catwoman has been marketed and shown more as a story-important character than an extra DLC character. A mistake in marketing.

Hell, even I thought she was integral to the story, and that you switched to her point of view Halo 2/Arbiter style.

 

[ImSkeletor]

I understand that, and I am sorry if I came across as high and mighty. Not my intention. But you can't call this a crappy deal because, frankly, you aren't losing anything by buying used. If you buy used, what you are getting is the game, nothing more, but the reviews have already said the game is 9+ even with Catwoman. So why complain? She's extra.

Its just a somewhat entitled attitude that gets on my nerves. DLC has gotten people into this mindset that they deserve it for free, because older games didn't have DLC. Its annoying.

Firstly thank you for bringing this back to a sensible arguement. Some of your comments seemed like you were trying to be high and mighty.(Though I wasn't much better)Secondly I totally understand that and this kind of thing usually doesn't bother me. I didn't mind Rage's extra content and I consider a bit of extra content to be a decent business move. The thing that really bothered me is that Catwoman is on the Game Informer. She is on the posters. She is in ALL of the advertising. From what I read her sections make up like 10% of the game. So she doesn't so much feel like extra content as much as something that was cut and repackaged.

Edit: Well I got partially Ninjad. Like Irridium I thought her parts were integrated into the story.

 

[Aura Guardian]

...what has changed? The only difference is that you'll be giving your money to one "multi-billion dollar corporation" instead of another. Gamestop isn't trying to make a stand, they are trying to keep customers buying used games so they can keep their profit margins high.

Go fight the power somewhere else Che Guevera

*claps furiously*

Thank you for being level headed and not blind to this, Gamestop isn't trying to save your money they're trying to take it from you and not give it to Warner Brothers.
Customer best interests don't come into it.

It's not like people can't look for a good sale. I mean that's what I did with Mortal Kombat. Day of launch, I had $45. Not enough for a new or used(I never buy used). Two weeks later, Mortal Kombat $20 off. Went to that store and got it. What's even better is that they have a magazine about their stuff and the cashier ripped a coupon that had $10 off Mortal Kombat. So I save more than I thought and I had $67 to kill tax. So I had more money than I thought I would have because I was patient enough to wait for a sale for a game I really wanted. And sometimes if I have the $66 handy, I buy the game at launch. And if not, I wait for a sale.

 

[Ordinaryundone]

I understand that, and I am sorry if I came across as high and mighty. Not my intention. But you can't call this a crappy deal because, frankly, you aren't losing anything by buying used. If you buy used, what you are getting is the game, nothing more, but the reviews have already said the game is 9+ even with Catwoman. So why complain? She's extra.

Its just a somewhat entitled attitude that gets on my nerves. DLC has gotten people into this mindset that they deserve it for free, because older games didn't have DLC. Its annoying.

Firstly thank you for bringing this back to a sensible arguement. Some of your comments seemed like you were trying to be high and mighty.(Though I wasn't much better)Secondly I totally understand that and this kind of thing usually doesn't bother me. I didn't mind Rage's extra content and I consider a bit of extra content to be a decent business move. The thing that really bothered me is that Catwoman is on the Game Informer. She is on the posters. She is in ALL of the advertising. From what I read her sections make up like 10% of the game. So she doesn't so much feel like extra content as much as something that was cut and repackaged.

Edit: Well I got partially Ninjad. Like Irridium I thought her parts were integrated into the story.

To be fair, being on the poster isn't really indicative of being playable. She IS in the story, after all, regardless of the DLC. And is a main character, in addition to being a fan-favorite. Kinda like how Flynn in on the cover of Tales of Vesperia. Or the ads for Kratos in MK9, who didn't appear in the Xbox version. The only ads I've seen for her being playable have been ads that mention her as DLC. Could they have been more clear, or left that out? I guess, but its a big selling point for the DLC, plus it provides extra incentive for people to buy the game new and get it free.

 

[Orinon]

Wait I thought Arkham City already had that bonus Pre-order Costume thing to detract used sales.
Now I know game designers don't get a good deal, Game-stop constantly rips them off on their sales and used games are a massive profit for them.
So I doubt that Game-stop did it because they liked their consumers they just wanted to encourage used sales because that's more profitable

Now a certain man, lets call him "Jim" has explained that it's very annoying when publishers have their games include online passes. And this is definitely what he was talking about.

See if I do buy Arkham City used and a Game-stop employee gives me the code for an online pass for free, I really won't have any objection taking it, Game Stop is being a lot more trusting of their customers.

Now I'm assuming WB gets a nice bit of profit for the Pre-orders, and there's likely to be some DLC available a few months after release, But that's not good enough they have to lock up content already on the disk, meaning that anyone with lower income or no online connection can't enjoy the whole game.
As Jim once said that really just says: F**k You Gamers.
Game-stop meanwhile is giving me the code they could have charged me 10 dollars for (I know most of that goes to Publishers but it's still a sale so there's still money) but instead decides it would be a better decision plan to give me a present.

it really does imply That Game-stop trusts that customers will buy their products if they are treated nicely.

But in all this rambling I'm trying to make this point
Publishers, Game-Stop is going to get a huge boost in used sales because one company tried to prevent them.

 

[Xanthious]

As I mentioned in a previous thread I think that gamers need to get together and come up with a place where they can exchange Online Pass codes and similar ransomed content.

Think about it, there has to be tons of people who either don't or can't use their Online Pass code when they get a new game. Now sure some of those people just leave it in the case and trade it in but there are probably many many more that just let it sit in the case and rot on their shelves or just throw it away. It could be a place where people who bought the game new and won't use the code can give it or swap it with people that bought the game preowned and want to use the Online Pass but don't want to give in to the publisher's ransom demands for content.

Currently, when I find Online Pass cards in used games I have no desire to play online I put the code up on various internet forums for free as do many other people. That method is rather sporadic though. However, if there were a central place people could go they could really begin to become a thorn in the sides of these publishers with a bit of exposure and word of mouth promotion.

 

[eclipsed_chemistry]

...what has changed? The only difference is that you'll be giving your money to one "multi-billion dollar corporation" instead of another. Gamestop isn't trying to make a stand, they are trying to keep customers buying used games so they can keep their profit margins high.

Go fight the power somewhere else Che Guevera

*claps furiously*

Thank you for being level headed and not blind to this, Gamestop isn't trying to save your money they're trying to take it from you and not give it to Warner Brothers.
Customer best interests don't come into it.

And in the process the producers can go suck it. Anything that has this effect is good. Ereryone on this site with the opinion that online passes and payed on disk "DL"C are a good thing disgust me. You're what's wrong with the games industry, you're so nice and happy to bend over to the producers and their money spinning ideas that they can get away with it all. When you buy a game decades from now and every level past the first one is payed on disc DLC it's your fault.

I'm sorry, what "producers" are you talking about here? If you're talking about PUBLISHERS, let's not forget that the developers get a tiny portion of the money made from SALES, and it's the DEVELOPERS we're trying to protect here. Yes, it sucks that publishers make hundreds of millions of dollars, but if it keeps the developers in business and making quality games, then you're damn right I'm willing to pay more for DLC or online passes. Besides, is that (most of the time) $5 discount for buying used REALLY worth it when you can have a brand new, shiny copy of your own? Trade em in if you want, but good lord man, don't screw the developers because you think you're saving your billions of dollars.

 

[ImSkeletor]

I understand that, and I am sorry if I came across as high and mighty. Not my intention. But you can't call this a crappy deal because, frankly, you aren't losing anything by buying used. If you buy used, what you are getting is the game, nothing more, but the reviews have already said the game is 9+ even with Catwoman. So why complain? She's extra.

Its just a somewhat entitled attitude that gets on my nerves. DLC has gotten people into this mindset that they deserve it for free, because older games didn't have DLC. Its annoying.

Firstly thank you for bringing this back to a sensible arguement. Some of your comments seemed like you were trying to be high and mighty.(Though I wasn't much better)Secondly I totally understand that and this kind of thing usually doesn't bother me. I didn't mind Rage's extra content and I consider a bit of extra content to be a decent business move. The thing that really bothered me is that Catwoman is on the Game Informer. She is on the posters. She is in ALL of the advertising. From what I read her sections make up like 10% of the game. So she doesn't so much feel like extra content as much as something that was cut and repackaged.

Edit: Well I got partially Ninjad. Like Irridium I thought her parts were integrated into the story.

To be fair, being on the poster isn't really indicative of being playable. She IS in the story, after all, regardless of the DLC. And is a main character, in addition to being a fan-favorite. Kinda like how Flynn in on the cover of Tales of Vesperia. Or the ads for Kratos in MK9, who didn't appear in the Xbox version. The only ads I've seen for her being playable have been ads that mention her as DLC. Could they have been more clear, or left that out? I guess, but its a big selling point for the DLC, plus it provides extra incentive for people to buy the game new and get it free.

What you said about the poster is true. But i don't know. The first gameplay video I EVER saw for this game featured catwoman prominately and so did the second. Seeing her on the posters kind of reinforced that. The game informer talked about her constantly. With all of that and the fact the she makes up a tenth of the game seeing that she was no longer included just frustrated me.

Anyway I feel a lot less frustrated about this but now I just feel dissapointed.

 

[eclipsed_chemistry]

So.. Gamestop are trying to increase there profits by screwing over game developers.. And people are siding with gamestop? WHAT HAS THIS WORLD COME TO????

Thank you, good god I don't understand how people can side with Gamestop. THEY JUST WANT YOUR MONEY, THEY DON'T ACTUALLY GIVE A SHIT ABOUT ANY OF YOU, PEOPLE!!

 

[Shaoken]

I must have come out of the bathroom to some bizaro universe. I'm actually agreeing with Gamestop on something. Hopefully they aren't paying for the codes to stick it up the craw of these dirt bag publishers.

They are. Honestly, how else do you think they'll have enough codes to give out? Or how they can announce this without WB ***** slapping them to hell for violating an agreement? Gamestop just cut a deal with WB to purchase the codes for the customers, so WB gets $10 for each used game sale from gamestop.

Man I don't have a lot of money. I can only buy like half a dozen games a year and the other two or three I get are gifts from family or friends. I would get even fewer if I didn't buy used. WB is giving me a crappy deal and I call that screwing me over. Gamestop is giving me a significantly better deal so I take that. Not giving WB my money IS proving a point to them, it just isn't my only motivation.

I understand that, and I am sorry if I came across as high and mighty. Not my intention. But you can't call this a crappy deal because, frankly, you aren't losing anything by buying used. If you buy used, what you are getting is the game, nothing more, but the reviews have already said the game is 9+ even with Catwoman. So why complain? She's extra.

Its just a somewhat entitled attitude that gets on my nerves. DLC has gotten people into this mindset that they deserve it for free, because older games didn't have DLC. Its annoying.

To be fair, Catwoman has been marketed and shown more as a story-important character than an extra DLC character. A mistake in marketing.

Hell, even I thought she was integral to the story, and that you switched to her point of view Halo 2/Arbiter style.

Yes, that is bullshit. They shouldn't have advertised that part if they were going to pull it, or announce from the start that this would be the case.

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

So.. Gamestop are trying to increase there profits by screwing over game developers.. And people are siding with gamestop? WHAT HAS THIS WORLD COME TO????

Thank you, good god I don't understand how people can side with Gamestop. THEY JUST WANT YOUR MONEY, THEY DON'T ACTUALLY GIVE A SHIT ABOUT ANY OF YOU, PEOPLE!!

And other businesses, like say, EA, Warner Brothers, and the like are sooooooo different, right?

Oh, wait....

 

[eclipsed_chemistry]

...what has changed? The only difference is that you'll be giving your money to one "multi-billion dollar corporation" instead of another. Gamestop isn't trying to make a stand, they are trying to keep customers buying used games so they can keep their profit margins high.

Go fight the power somewhere else Che Guevera

*claps furiously*

Thank you for being level headed and not blind to this, Gamestop isn't trying to save your money they're trying to take it from you and not give it to Warner Brothers.
Customer best interests don't come into it.

It's not like people can't look for a good sale. I mean that's what I did with Mortal Kombat. Day of launch, I had $45. Not enough for a new or used(I never buy used). Two weeks later, Mortal Kombat $20 off. Went to that store and got it. What's even better is that they have a magazine about their stuff and the cashier ripped a coupon that had $10 off Mortal Kombat. So I save more than I thought and I had $67 to kill tax. So I had more money than I thought I would have because I was patient enough to wait for a sale for a game I really wanted. And sometimes if I have the $66 handy, I buy the game at launch. And if not, I wait for a sale.

And that's perfectly fine. You can look for a good sale, no one is arguing against that, it's just that used games sales are screwing developers out of money unfairly just so people can save $5 bucks on their end. It's not right. I buy every single one of my games new, and if I can, I don't buy them at Gamestop anymore because I always get hassled about buying it used and saving a couple bucks, and I don't always have the patience to launch into my "anti used video games" tirade. And yeah, if it's a game that I don't absolutely need or want right at the moment, I'll wait around a couple weeks or a month for the price to drop to say, $40-45 bucks and then I'll get it.