Gamestop giving used Arkham City buyers Catwoman code

[Epona]

If Gamestop is really buying these codes and giving them to people, it's a brilliant move. Rocksteady gets money from used game sales; the whole reason to include the DLC codes with new copies. Gamestop gets less money from used Arkham City purchases, but they appeal to the people that buy used games; hopefully getting more customers in the process. And used game buyers get free DLC.

Gamestop will pass that loss onto the customer, the one who bought new and is trading it in.

Also, Rocksteady doesn't deserve money from used sales and I'll bet that if given the choice, most used buyers wouldn't pay the extra $10. I wouldn't and I would prefer the game cost me $10 less. Gamestop is setting a bad precedent here.

Let me put it this way; this online pass is a great way to show that people are still interested in the game and that Rocksteady should continue making free DLC to get more people into it.

Don't follow, this is $10 DLC.

 

[WaruTaru]

Isn't this Gamestop's way of shoving the DLC content down the used buyer's throat whether they want it or not? I'm pretty sure GS cannot make these codes out of thin air, so logically they'll need to buy it from WB. If thats the case, WB is making money from EVERY used game sales, aren't they? Looking at it differently, GS is working hand in hand with WB to distribute the DLC content aggressively, no?

Edit: Also, since they are absorbing the cost for these $10 codes, I reckon the price of used games will go down very slowly.

 

[Shaoken]

If Gamestop is really buying these codes and giving them to people, it's a brilliant move. Rocksteady gets money from used game sales; the whole reason to include the DLC codes with new copies. Gamestop gets less money from used Arkham City purchases, but they appeal to the people that buy used games; hopefully getting more customers in the process. And used game buyers get free DLC.

Gamestop will pass that loss onto the customer, the one who bought new and is trading it in.

Also, Rocksteady doesn't deserve money from used sales and I'll bet that if given the choice, most used buyers wouldn't pay the extra $10. I wouldn't and I would prefer the game cost me $10 less. Gamestop is setting a bad precedent here.

Let me put it this way; this online pass is a great way to show that people are still interested in the game and that Rocksteady should continue making free DLC to get more people into it.

Don't follow, this is $10 DLC.

no, this is a $10 pass. Like Mass Effect 2's Ceberus Network pass. That came with a bunch of free stuff up front and more free stuff down the line. See where I'm going with this? That's the model you should use if you have an online pass system.

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

Thank god, someone finally putting up some sort of stance against these ridiculous measures imposed by publishers. Yeah game stop will buy them and it'll cost so publishers will still get money. But it puts a stop to the publisher thinking they can dick the customers over and get away with it, which they will because if I've learnt anything from here it's that many consumers will side with the multi-billion dollar organisation rather than call them out on being dicks.

...what has changed? The only difference is that you'll be giving your money to one "multi-billion dollar corporation" instead of another. Gamestop isn't trying to make a stand, they are trying to keep customers buying used games so they can keep their profit margins high.

Go fight the power somewhere else Che Guevera

Just what I was going to say there, good work.

 

[Epona]

If Gamestop is really buying these codes and giving them to people, it's a brilliant move. Rocksteady gets money from used game sales; the whole reason to include the DLC codes with new copies. Gamestop gets less money from used Arkham City purchases, but they appeal to the people that buy used games; hopefully getting more customers in the process. And used game buyers get free DLC.

If they're just printing them and not giving Rocksteady anything for it, I'm totally against it. Gamestop gets more profit from the used game sales than they would if people bought the game new, while Rocksteady gets nothing. The whole point of the Catwoman DLC is so that the people that made the game get a profit from used sales.

exactly! if they aren't buying the codes than this is terrible. think about it like this the whole point of the pass was an incentive to buy the game new, and if you got it used you missed out on some frivolous thing. but if they circumvent it and give out free codes with out paying for them then the remove all incentives to buy the game new to begin with!

new game: $60 with free code

used game:$55+10 if you want the frivolous stuff:$65

game stop used game: $55 with the code in it.
sorry what was the point of buying new again? game stop already sells used copies for way to much and buy back for not nearly enough a used game really shouldn't be $55 maybe $45-$50 for games only a few months old and cheaper after a year or so.

also my biggest problem with gamestop is when you go in and try buying the new game but the try to offer you their used copy for "FIVE DOLLARS LESS!" they have their employees active trying to get you to buy the used games instead of the new ones it just seems like thats half the issue right there, people who would have bought it new end up getting persuaded into the used one (thus all that money that was about to NOT go to gamestop is now in their pockets) and if they are giving out free codes that they didn't pay that's more way to screw the developer over.
"if you bought it used anywhere else you would have to pay extra for not getting it new! but not here we give you that code that only new buys get for free!"
or
"why buy it new? you can get it for less if you buy OUR used copy! and guess what! now you get that code for free as if you bought it new anyway!"

I would rather they offer me the game for $45 without the online pass. Also, if you can't tell them "No, I want to buy the new copy", then you have only yourself to blame. I really wish Gamestop would stop selling new games to show whiners like you how important it is that they have new games available. People trade in games and then turn around, in the same visit, and buy more games. Sometimes those games are new and I would bet that on the day this game is released, there will be alot of people in there trading in their old games to buy this one new.

 

[Epona]

If Gamestop is really buying these codes and giving them to people, it's a brilliant move. Rocksteady gets money from used game sales; the whole reason to include the DLC codes with new copies. Gamestop gets less money from used Arkham City purchases, but they appeal to the people that buy used games; hopefully getting more customers in the process. And used game buyers get free DLC.

Gamestop will pass that loss onto the customer, the one who bought new and is trading it in.

Also, Rocksteady doesn't deserve money from used sales and I'll bet that if given the choice, most used buyers wouldn't pay the extra $10. I wouldn't and I would prefer the game cost me $10 less. Gamestop is setting a bad precedent here.

Let me put it this way; this online pass is a great way to show that people are still interested in the game and that Rocksteady should continue making free DLC to get more people into it.

Don't follow, this is $10 DLC.

no, this is a $10 pass. Like Mass Effect 2's Ceberus Network pass. That came with a bunch of free stuff up front and more free stuff down the line. See where I'm going with this? That's the model you should use if you have an online pass system.

WB/Rocksteady have put a price on this content, they think it is worth $10. You are paying $50 for the game and $10 for the extra content, nothing is free. Used buyers are paying $40 (Edge card) for the game and $10 for the extra content.

It's like those infomercials where they throw in "all this stuff for free, order now!". It's BS and deep down, you know it. You are paying for everything, nothing is free.

 

[Lyri]

Actually they were sold out day of launch and they told me that got a lot of copies. It was also because the sale was that you got a $15 gift card and a MK figure for free.

Sounds like they over ordered after they sold out then, I mean I've never heard of buying a game and getting a free $15 gift card and an MK figure for free.
How much did you actually pay for the game, considering ir was $20 off and you said someone had a $10 off voucher too?
Hell of a deal.

Your comment has entirely no relevance to what was said.

One commenter said that Gamestop are filtering the money that consumers would be forced to give to another company their way. Second commenter essentially said that in retail, customers mean fuck all because we have to spend money on it anyway.

Then you come along with some bizarre doomsday scenario about how we're going to be paying for every level because we're buying demos? I think you've got yourself a little confused. Do some research and come back with a better informed idea.

OT: Funnily enough, I'm okay with the idea of an online pass. Everyone is like "OMG HOLY SHIT THEY'RE TAKING AWAY MY SHIT" but if you think about it, even with an extra $10 for the DLC or whatever, you're still getting it cheaper than if you bought the game new. A used game is say $50 and the new copy would be $100 (I'm working from Australian prices here), if you spend the extra $10 for the pass, you're still getting all the content for less than the RRP of the new game. Unless you're not connected to the net (in which you wouldn't get the DLC from the new copy of the game anyway) the consumer is coming out on top.

I'd like to hug you really, really tightly for noticing his comment was completely left of field. I left it out of my post but I was pretty sure the poster was a sandwich short of a picnic.

I agree with you though, as far as I'm aware you're always getting it cheaper buying used but I think it's more to do with American used prices being so close to new value.
Whilst over here in the UK prices are pretty reasonable I'd say, nothing to outlandish. When I went to visit my fiancée in the US, I took a visit to Gamestop because she wanted to pick up ME2 for the PS3 after fininshing ME1 on my laptop.

Brand new the game was still being sold for $60 and this was May of this year, a used copy cost $50. You're practically paying a new price for a used game and thus the whole "I can't afford it, woah is me" comes into it.

exactly! if they aren't buying the codes than this is terrible. think about it like this the whole point of the pass was an incentive to buy the game new, and if you got it used you missed out on some frivolous thing. but if they circumvent it and give out free codes with out paying for them then the remove all incentives to buy the game new to begin with!

You get a unique skin for buying new from certain stores I believe, that's probably how they're getting codes.
They have to generate their own codes for their gamestop exclusive skin so why not this one?

That's your buy new incentive though just fyi.

 

[inutaisho7996]

WB/Rocksteady have put a price on this content, they think it is worth $10. You are paying $50 for the game and $10 for the extra content, nothing is free. Used buyers are paying $40 (Edge card) for the game and $10 for the extra content.

It's like those infomercials where they throw in "all this stuff for free, order now!". It's BS and deep down, you know it. You are paying for everything, nothing is free.

So without the Catwoman content, the game would have been $50?

 

[Epona]

WB/Rocksteady have put a price on this content, they think it is worth $10. You are paying $50 for the game and $10 for the extra content, nothing is free. Used buyers are paying $40 (Edge card) for the game and $10 for the extra content.

It's like those infomercials where they throw in "all this stuff for free, order now!". It's BS and deep down, you know it. You are paying for everything, nothing is free.

So without the Catwoman content, the game would have been $50?

Without the online pass BS, the Catwoman content would have been part of the core game, for $60. Free DLC is free to everyone, Portal 2 is an example.

 

[ScrubberDucky]

If this is true, this is going to be some of the most amazing publicity Gamestop has ever gotten--and a very clever move on their parts, to be sure. Good for the consumer, good for them, bad for the billionare fat-cats. Everyone is happy.

 

[inutaisho7996]

WB/Rocksteady have put a price on this content, they think it is worth $10. You are paying $50 for the game and $10 for the extra content, nothing is free. Used buyers are paying $40 (Edge card) for the game and $10 for the extra content.

It's like those infomercials where they throw in "all this stuff for free, order now!". It's BS and deep down, you know it. You are paying for everything, nothing is free.

So without the Catwoman content, the game would have been $50?

Without the online pass BS, the Catwoman content would have been part of the core game, for $60. Free DLC is free to everyone, Portal 2 is an example.

So, if it's extra content, then we're being charged for it, and that's a bad thing. But if it's included, we're still being charged for it, but that's not bad?

 

[Thumper17]

I'm not sure how to feel about this.

 

[Aura Guardian]

Actually they were sold out day of launch and they told me that got a lot of copies. It was also because the sale was that you got a $15 gift card and a MK figure for free.

Sounds like they over ordered after they sold out then, I mean I've never heard of buying a game and getting a free $15 gift card and an MK figure for free.
How much did you actually pay for the game, considering ir was $20 off and you said someone had a $10 off voucher too?
Hell of a deal.

$59.99
-20.00
-10.00
=
$29.99+tax=$32.58. And I got it at Toys'r'us. I go there a lot for video game sales. Like I did with Pokemon Black and White. Buy one and get one half off plus B/W character stylus for free and I left a deposit on Black. The coupon/deposit voucher reduced both games by $5 instead of one. I paid about $25 for Black and White

 

[Epona]

WB/Rocksteady have put a price on this content, they think it is worth $10. You are paying $50 for the game and $10 for the extra content, nothing is free. Used buyers are paying $40 (Edge card) for the game and $10 for the extra content.

It's like those infomercials where they throw in "all this stuff for free, order now!". It's BS and deep down, you know it. You are paying for everything, nothing is free.

So without the Catwoman content, the game would have been $50?

Without the online pass BS, the Catwoman content would have been part of the core game, for $60. Free DLC is free to everyone, Portal 2 is an example.

So, if it's extra content, then we're being charged for it, and that's a bad thing. But if it's included, we're still being charged for it, but that's not bad?

I don't see how you got that from my post. Portal 2 DLC was free for everyone, it was just released a couple of weeks ago and it was not Day One, type in a code to prove you bought it new DLC.

 

[hwarang]

Hey guys!
Has anyone else noticed the slight irony:

Both of these big companies are making big effects to try and stop the other from stealing from their profits. Each action is morally debatable and gathers equal amounts of support and criticism from the public, seeing as both parties are needlessly rich and generally considered immoral (Rocksteady the DLC supporting tycoons or gamestop bleeding the industry of income).

Both parties have their support, and have a strong arguement that what they are doing is the "right" course of action to take.

And it's all over the character of Catwoman, one of the better examples of complex morals, taking for the sake of the steal and anti-heroism.

[EDIT]
Ok I think I found a better way to explain myself, basically each company has kinda gone "what would Catwoman do?"

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

Now THIS is how you fight game companies who want to eliminate used sales. Render their schemes completely useless.

 

[Epona]

Now THIS is how you fight game companies who want to eliminate used sales. Render their schemes completely useless.

You fight them by buying online passes from them?

 

[Nautical Honors Society]

Hell yeah Gamestop. Gamestop > Rocksteady. I really don't get why people hate gamestop. They save people billions of dollars a year and now they have done this. To reiterate HELL YEAH GAMESTOP.

So Gamestop is better than the creators of a great Video Game Franchise? I... I am confused. It was EA's idea. Not Rocksteady.

1. I wouldn't consider it great. Arkham Asylum was a C+ or maybe a B- in my honest opinion.

2. Yeah your right about it being WB's decision(NOT EA!)

Yes but it was an A to A+ in the opinion of the critics and general public.

OT: I'm buying it new, so I don't care either way obviously.

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

Now THIS is how you fight game companies who want to eliminate used sales. Render their schemes completely useless.

You fight them by buying online passes from them?

They create a online pass whose sole purpose is to combat used sales. The pass comes with used games. Their scheme is useless now.

 

[Epona]

Now THIS is how you fight game companies who want to eliminate used sales. Render their schemes completely useless.

You fight them by buying online passes from them?

They create a online pass whose sole purpose is to combat used sales. The pass comes with used games. Their scheme is useless now.

Gamestop is buying online passes from WB, isn't that what WB wanted?

Let me put it another way: WB wants to make $10 on used copies. Gamestop helps them do it by purchasing passes for every used copy they sell.