Gender equality

[Sarge034]

Go tell this to one of thoes female weightlifters and see how much stronger then her you are... You'r a man and should have no problems right? You will obviously be more physically fit cus you are a man. Hell, I'm man enough to admit she would kick my ass. 10.0 on the sexism scale.

Here's a picture of an average man.

Clearly stronger than the woman.

Wow a sexist troll, that was cool.

Can I has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like as cool as you?

 

[dslatch]

1-10 I'm a 6 i say plenty of sexist and stupid things non of which i truly mean.

One big employment gap is Mcdonalds and the military more girls at Ron's and more dudes in cadpac camo. Though more guy managers at Mcdonalds.

 

[Dyme]

Wow a sexist troll, that was cool.

Stating that men are stronger than women is just fact. Nothing trolly or sexist about that. Men also are taller. Men also have more penises than women. Women and men aren't the same. There are differences. That's how sexist I am.

 

[Torrasque]

Think of a scientist. Did you think of a guy in a lab coat? SEXIST!

Actually, I think of a geeky girl rolling dice.

Our game society is full of physicists.

lol, I was jk about these "SEXIST!" things.

 

[Fappy]

I tell sexist jokes all the time, but aside from some preconceived notions of who should do what based on my upbringing via parenting and popular media images, I am not really all that sexist. I'd say maybe a 4, since I have preconceived ideas that probably won't go away anytime soon. The important thing is that I am aware of this and on a conscious level I can dismiss them. For the most part men and women should have equal opportunity in all aspects of life.

 

[Sarge034]

Wow a sexist troll, that was cool.

Stating that men are stronger than women is just fact. Nothing trolly or sexist about that. Men also are taller. Men also have more penises than women. Women and men aren't the same. There are differences. That's how sexist I am.

Stating that all men are stronger than women is a sexist comment. As the woman from my original post is stronger than me, and I'll bet she's stronger than you too. Right there are two cases that disprove your blanket statement. So because it can be disproved, that makes it a sexist statement. Your view on men being taller is sexist as well. As you can see in the picture she is way taller than he is. If every man in existence was stronger than every woman in existence, then it would be a valid point. If every man in existence was taller than every woman in existence, then it would be a valid point. Such as the difference in genitalia, that can be proven as fact as long as we include hermaphrodites in their own category. True, men and women are not the same and true saying the same thing twice makes it look like there are multiple valid points in your post.

Ask yourself if there are ANY women stronger then ANY men. If the answer is no, you are lying to yourself in order to continue your sexist argument. If the answer is yes, ask why you say, with no uncertainty, that ALL men are stronger and taller then ALL women.

Then regardless of your answer, stop trying to troll as you do it poorly.

 

[Plurralbles]

your x gender in y roles kinda' made me chuckle because taking it in the chromosome way makes that sentence wrong.

Anyway, meh. Whatever. I wish the entire discussion coul djust die and it actually be equal OPPORTUNITY not equal porportions. People yelling, "We want more women in this industry!" is stupid.

have peopel understand that they can do whatever they are qualified for, and never ever set specific, "you have to have 5 women working here" quotas.

 

[TacticalAssassin1]

I know somebody's going to link me to some kickass story for saying this, but if you wanted to do that, good luck getting half the army to be chicks. You get all these feminists going on about equality, which is fine, but I don't think they'd be pleased to go to war.
Again, not saying there aren't women in the armed services who most likely help out a hell of a lot, but probably not the frontlines.

As for me being sexist, probably 3 to 4, but I'm not one for picking on girls.

 

[NeoGuardian86]

Men and women are not physically equal. They should be treated as equal before the law, but in the realm of the physical they are not equals. Men have a much larger capacity for strength and endurance than women do. Women were not built to be the powerhouses that men were.

I once heard about a study preformed on the differences in aptitude of Olympians based upon sex. Women in their prime compete at approximately the same level as an adolescent boy(14-15 years old). This is why there is gender testing when people compete in the Olympics. Women simply cannot compete with men in this area.

This may seem trivial, but it's not. This is why there are a lot fewer women in the physical dominated fields. Construction, sports, and the armed forces.

The differences don't even solely manifest themselves in the areas of the muscles, either. Men have far more testosterone than women do, a chemical that controls such areas as aggression and risk taking. This is why there are more men at the top of fortune 500 companies. Men are more likely to take risks to receive the rewards. It also has to do with confidence and how likely a person is to lead vs how likely they are to be lead. This is why men dominate the fields of power in government.

Men and women are not the same creatures. They are different biologically and serve different functions entirely. There is absolutely no point in comparing the sexes and their relative merits, unless you really want a war of the sexes. Sex roles are placed upon people so that we're not comparing apples and oranges like: how many women are in construction vs how many men are.

You can determine for yourself how sexist I am.

I generally agree with this.

While i do find exceptions to the rules all the time, that doesn't change the norm of the situation.

I forget the exact details, but i do remember in my Anthropology class in college, we had a male professor, we had some female students. He made a mention how in the text there has been vast majority of societies being patriarchal but there were still a few matriarchal societies like native Americans. However as he was explaining it, and he apologized ahead, when talking about one of the Native American tribes considered Matriarchal, aside from a woman being the head (but not absolute power) of the group, and certain female centric coming of age rituals (akin to Bar Mitzvah for boys), the women were not really running the show. The girls in class did make a make fuss about it in class, but no doubt someone took offense to it.

 

[Dyme]

Ask yourself if there are ANY women stronger then ANY men. If the answer is no, you are lying to yourself in order to continue your sexist argument.

So if I say, a human being has 2 arms and 2 legs it is wrong because there might be individuals that have more or less? Do I really need to say the average men is stronger than the average women and an average human has 2 arms and 2 legs?

 

[Sarge034]

Ask yourself if there are ANY women stronger then ANY men. If the answer is no, you are lying to yourself in order to continue your sexist argument.

So if I say, a human being has 2 arms and 2 legs it is wrong because there might be individuals that have more or less? Do I really need to say the average men is stronger than the average women and an average human has 2 arms and 2 legs?

As a blanket statement it would be incorrect, just like saying that all men are stronger than all women. At least if you said most men have more upper body strength than women it would not have come across as completely sexist.

 

[Mr.Squishy]

Let me explain my attitude slowly, in a way that hopefully will not make feminists castrate me. I am for Equality. 50/50. Half and half. I am not sure if we're on the number one spot, but here in Norway we're touted as being very gender equal, and I am inclined to believe it. Women here can choose to be whatever they want, as can men (one of our biggest celebrities is a hairdressing guy who's apparently really good at it). Women are also free to join the army, although they can opt out. Men don't have that option, unless they don't pass the requirements to join. What bothers me a bit is how hard a hold Affirmative action has got here. If a man and a woman apply for the same job, and the man is genuinely better suited for the job, but the company has filled their "quota" of how many men they can have, the woman will get the job. I am not trying to be sexist, I swear to [Insert Non-denominational deity or pantheon], I merely think the one proven to be the most qualified to enter a position should do so. Or am I missing the point here? And I am also trying to keep in mind that men and women have differences both physically and mentally, but not judge based upon them. Still feminists would blast me as a male chauvinist with views tinted by male priveliege and patriarchy, or so experience tells me. Which I do not find to hold true; I love women - I love men too (yay for being bi =P) - some of my best friends are female, and I tend to write mostly about female main characters, albeit I do not try to make too much out of gender. I say like James Cameron, I think it was: I don't write men or women, I write people. I know men may be less qualified to write about women seeing as they have not experienced the mental patterns of the opposite gender, but that may very well be said for females writing males as well, and nobody's complaining there(I'm looking at you, fanfiction writers and Stephenie Meyer. There is no way in hell Edward, being a 117 years old or around there, could have just never heard of women's liberation, flappers, sufragettes or whatever.)
The point is, I advocate gender EQUALITY (albeit with a hint of practicality/pragmatism, as in letting the most qualified people fill open positions), not superiority, which many feminists have told me women deserve. One even advocated that 'women should rule society, to make up for being oppressed by men'. I'm sorry, but that idea don't fly with me.

I needed to get that out =P
I'd say, judging myself, that I'm at least trying to be a 1-2, but lo and behold, me being a white middle-class male I'm instantly sexist and racist and condescending towards the homeless, so I'd guess a 9 after adding in that I'm blinded by patriarchy.

 

[b3nn3tt]

The point is, I advocate gender EQUALITY (albeit with a hint of practicality/pragmatism, as in letting the most qualified people fill open positions),

To me, that is equality, through and through, I don't think you need the little disclaimer. Equality is all about equal opportunity, not about having equal numbers of men and women. As long as the best person for the job gets the job, I have no problem with it

not superiority, which many feminists have told me women deserve. One even advocated that 'women should rule society, to make up for being oppressed by men'. I'm sorry, but that idea don't fly with me.

I like to think that it is a very smal minority who believe this, because it is one of the stupidest positions I think anyone could hold, let alone a 'feminist'. "Well, we've been oppressed for years, we should fight for rights and then take them away from men. That makes a balanced and fair society".

No. No it doesn't

 

[TacticalAssassin1]

I know somebody's going to link me to some kickass story for saying this, but if you wanted to do that, good luck getting half the army to be chicks. You get all these feminists going on about equality, which is fine, but I don't think they'd be pleased to go to war.
Again, not saying there aren't women in the armed services who most likely help out a hell of a lot, but probably not the frontlines.

As for me being sexist, probably 3 to 4, but I'm not one for picking on girls.

Happens in East Asia, and they seem more than happy too. Vietnam for instance
My friend Jess complains less than my males friends about being military, too.

I'm not suprised. But just imagine the uproar if the united states tried to get mothers to fight on the front lines, that's all I'm saying.

 

[Deadman Walkin]

I firmly believe women would make good frontline soldiers, there is no convincing reason they should be prohibited... The UK Armed Forces recently reviewed the situation and declined.

Also... Women do make some pretty bitchin' sammiches...

I don't disagree that women have the right to be in the military, however I have heard (and this might be wrong) that abuse occurs over seas from the male soldiers. I don't really know how this could be fixed, but it is unfortunate.

 

[TacticalAssassin1]

Happens in East Asia, and they seem more than happy too. Vietnam for instance
My friend Jess complains less than my males friends about being military, too.

I'm not suprised. But just imagine the uproar if the united states tried to get mothers to fight on the front lines, that's all I'm saying.

There's a documentary I think is called 'war moms' or something about almost that. There would be outrage, but there's outrage at letting gay men fight, too. The public are fucking retarded. I honestly believe its plain common sense to let women who can reach the same heights of physical ability sign up.
Admittedly, cause the Y chromosome gives us extra height and muscle, they'd be a minority, but there's still a resource being ignored by the military.

Yeah but the whole 'not many chicks' thing and the 'guys being horny' thing may create a problem or two...

Just sayin'.