Gender equality

[kickyourass]

Do you think there is a reason you see mostly X gender in Y roles?
Yes I do, from my perspective at least, we see (For example) more men in construction jobs then women because that kind of manual labor appeals more to men then it does to women.

Why do you think there is job inequality?
Maybe a little, but most of the cases regarding job inequality I've come across getblown up to such cartoonish proportions that sometimes I find it hard to tell whether I should take them seriously or not.

I don't really have an answer for your final question, so I'm not going to give one.

 

[Exius Xavarus]

Gender equality? There never has, and never will be such a thing. I mean no offense to women, but from what I can tell, women want all the good things about equality, and let us keep the bad parts. They don't want to be equal. They want to have all the socially positive aspects of being a man, and retain the fact that they're women and MUST be treated like a super princess. Sexism will never cease to exist, and while discrimination lives, equality will never be within our grasp.

That's just my take on the situation. My apologies in advance to anyone that may or may not take offense.

 

[kickyourass]

Go tell this to one of thoes female weightlifters and see how much stronger then her you are... You'r a man and should have no problems right? You will obviously be more physically fit cus you are a man. Hell, I'm man enough to admit she would kick my ass. 10.0 on the sexism scale.

Here's a picture of an average man.

Clearly stronger than the woman.

You think that's average? Huh, I didn't know the internet extended all the way to fucking Krypton.

 

[Thaluikhain]

I don't disagree that women have the right to be in the military, however I have heard (and this might be wrong) that abuse occurs over seas from the male soldiers. I don't really know how this could be fixed, but it is unfortunate.

In Iraq, female US soldiers are more at risk of being raped by male US soldiers than killed by enemy action. It's a serious problem, which isn't helped that it makes for bad PR to acknowledge the problem and try to deal with it.

 

[InfiniteSingularity]

So this is the part where I ask what you think.
Do you think there is a reason you see mostly X gender in Y roles?
Why do you think there is job inequality?
On a scale of 1-10 (10 being highest) how sexist would you say you are?

I don't see any reason why there should be differences - i believe in absolute equality. So I don't believe any specific role for a specific gender; sure, sometimes I'll think that typically guys do certain jobs and girls do other jobs, but I don't believe or live by these ideals. It's only because i've been raised with media/misc influences on the typical male/female roles in society, but I don't believe any of that. Sometimes I'm surprised when a woman enjoys similar things to typical men (video games, for example), but again, it's because I've been raised under the impression that men and women are different. We're not different, not underneath our anatomical differences - our modern society imposes different ideals and perspectives on the different genders, so everyone think's we're different. But we're not - we're all people.

Job inequality I think is caused because women are not as interested in the jobs men are, for the reasons stated above. From early childhood, all children are raised to believe that women and men are different. So as children grow up, their ideas on their own roles in society are influenced by society's ideas on the roles of their gender. So women are/have been less likely to pursue careers because they have been raised to believe, and therefore believe themselves, that they have a separate role to men. The other factor is children - women give birth, and look after children, because of the biological attachment of both mother and child, and dependance of the child on the mother. So this can get in the way for women who are mothers.

I am 0 sexist - i believe in absolute equality.

 

[InfiniteSingularity]

Go tell this to one of thoes female weightlifters and see how much stronger then her you are... You'r a man and should have no problems right? You will obviously be more physically fit cus you are a man. Hell, I'm man enough to admit she would kick my ass. 10.0 on the sexism scale.

I'm not sexist, but that's so fucking unattractive

 

[TacticalAssassin1]

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Yeah but the whole 'not many chicks' thing and the 'guys being horny' thing may create a problem or two...

Just sayin'.

That's pretty sexist, to assume that men are incapable of putting fighting for their lives above sex. (jokes)
No more problems than gay men serving. Separate sleeping quarters and it's even less of a problem.

Yeah true, I'm not saying it's not do-able (no pun intended) I'm just pointing out why most armed services haven't bothered to try.

 

[TacticalAssassin1]

Yeah true, I'm not saying it's not do-able (no pun intended) I'm just pointing out why most armed services haven't bothered to try.

Yeah it's true they haven't and probably won't in my lifetime.
I had a teacher once who insisted that men would all flip out if they ever saw a woman shot and that's why...
people are weird.

Huh.. That may be a factor, I mean that would probably fuck morale up pretty bad, but it's WAR! What are you expecting?!

 

[Thaluikhain]

I don't disagree that women have the right to be in the military, however I have heard (and this might be wrong) that abuse occurs over seas from the male soldiers. I don't really know how this could be fixed, but it is unfortunate.

In Iraq, female US soldiers are more at risk of being raped by male US soldiers than killed by enemy action. It's a serious problem, which isn't helped that it makes for bad PR to acknowledge the problem and try to deal with it.

That's more to do with the rampant acceptance of rape in the region than the fact that someone gave a woman a gun, tho.
(I'm not hating on Arabs or Islam, it's a real problem that results from societal norms developed in tribal societies with no simple solution.)

Hey? Why would the prevelance of rape in the area make US soldiers stationed there more likely to rape other US soldiers?

 

[Thaluikhain]

This shocks me. The forces really ought to do something about instead of sweeping it under the rug....

Well, yes, but how often does an organisation dealing with sex crimes amongst its own come out and publically deal with the issue, rather than try and keep it quiet?

 

[Thaluikhain]

This shocks me. The forces really ought to do something about instead of sweeping it under the rug....

Well, yes, but how often does an organisation dealing with sex crimes amongst its own come out and publically deal with the issue, rather than try and keep it quiet?

True true *cough* the Vatican *cough*
Guess it's still a social acceptance thing rather than anything else, then.

Boo for isolating the military from society.

Having said that, I don't know how the number of rapes compares to the general US population, whether the same amounts would occur if it was US accountants sent somewhere. Though, the military is rather male dominated, which is likely to be a factor.