Gene Simmons Declares War on Anonymous

[hem dazon 90]

Oh we are sooo scared of the aging rock star!


lol prepare for a backraid anons.

Funny coming from somebody that's acting like an excited fan girl over a few nerds with no lives that get enjoyment out of internet bullying.
You make all of them look bad ass by comparasin. That's just sad considering the subjects in this "fight"

But lets hear some of your poetry or anything you have created. I bet it's way more popular than anything that band did. What was it called again? Kiss? Yeah I bet they were some go nowhere band that nobody remembers or paints their faces to resemble.

"bullying"? Almost all of anon's targets are people who deserve it breda.

Sure, the ones fanboys like you hear about. If you had common sense, you would know that a group like this would target more than just those that deserve it.I mean look at this, a guy just said something they disagreed with and he gets attacked. How does he deserve it, for having an opinion we disagree with?
It's childish and you know it.

He violated rules one and two

 

[Parnage]

I am completely on Gene's side. Anyone who steals other peoples work should be sued, and everything you can get taken from them and the family and given to the actual creators.

I fully expect Gene simmons to publicly kick Nick out of the family and apologize to the people behind Bleach.

Oh wait, that won't happen.. but man it sure would make me feel like Gene has a box to stand on if he you know he followed his own words.

Sorry Gene, I got to ask when was the last time you even put out a song to have any say in the music industry? Stick to selling out and reality tv. You giving advice on the music industry is about as useful as a big band swing group telling you how to rock.

 

[Taco of flames]

Wishing rape upon anyone is not okay. And really, I doubt it's even possible to sue everyone who's ever downloaded music, let alone put them all in jail and take all their worldly possessions. I'm rooting for Anon in this one, and I hope Simmons falls hard. Good thing I never liked KISS much.

 

[dragunover]

What I find funny is that there are people who would support Gene Simmons without realizing he's just another rich scheming corporate lap-dog with only the shallowest of intentions.

 

[Zakarath]

He's a dick for saying that he wants people to lose their homes, lose their lives and put them in jail for downloading a song that's worth $0.99

It's funny because if a song of his is being pirated, and it hypothetically gets downloaded 100000 times, he loses 99000 bucks.

Keep in mind that 1 download != 1 lost sale.

I would have to disagree. The only reason I bought 3 seasons of dexter is because I watched the first few episodes by downloading them for free. It's just a preview for me, but I understand that it's not the same way for most people.
Oh wait, you were being clever weren't you? Ok carry on then.

Yeah, "!=" means does not equal... though I suppose I could say it more clearly.

Oh, I didn't see the !, although I've never seen it like that before.
It's usually =\= or something like that.

Yeah, thats the way normal people write it. But in a lot of programming languages, "!=" is the way its written, and I kind of just got in the habit of writing it like that.

 

[roguetrooper96]

I'm gonna reference Shakespeare and Manhunt here and say "What seest thou else in the dark backward abysm of time" I see Gene failing, everyone who has had internet access at any point in their lives arrested and the planet becoming an overcrowded prison system.

 

[Substance-E]

Ya know, It says a whole lot about the community on this site to see so many siding with people who maliciously attack others over someone just talking out his ass, a freedom that none of you would ever sacrifice...

Also anyone defending IP piracy under the bullshit guise that "art shouldn't be made a tool of corporate greed" may you never be cursed with the desire to create and make your living that way...

 

[Dogmeat T Dingo]

From the outside a lot of art-based industries seem like "fun" and that they should be art-driven. But we live in a money-based society. People need money to live.

Do you think that most small-time musicians, who work during the day in say an office and spend their nights jamming or doing gigs in small pubs, don't you think that if they love music they'd prefer to be making money doing it? Of course most of them probably would.

If current musicians enjoy what they're doing, shouldn't they be entitled to make money as well? If someone's enjoyment comes not from the music, but the performance, is their music any less valid? If people like it they'll listen to it.

If a particular song strikes a cord with you, listen to it, enjoy it and support the artist. If it doesn't, don't. The musical experience ultimately is a negotiation between the listener and the song. The artist's motivations aren't relevant in my mind.

Hey now, I think you might be putting words in the mouths of a lot of artists there. Because I can tell you right now, the overwhelming majority of them both known and unknown not only dismiss the downloading of their songs, but also actively encourage it. Heck, some even host the files themselves!

Now, obviously Gene Simmons is not among them, and I can respect that. He's a businessman after all, and KISS would not be the first band to sell out and take the money over the art (coughmetallicacough!). I don't think anybody should download music from an artist who explicitly states that they are against piracy, any more than I think you should, say, sneak into a movie without paying.

But his view is in NO way the majority, or even a sizable minority. Yes all those small time bands would love to be raking in the money like KISS, but most are intelligent and people-savvy enough to realize that piracy has helped the music industry far more than it has hurt it, and they will tell you this if you ask them. File sharing allows them to get their music out to more people, and the more people they get listening to their music the more people will buy it. You see, these bands acknowledge that a downloaded file is not a lost sale, quite the contrary; it is in fact a POTENTIAL sale, one more person who has been led to their art. One more person who may pay for their album, or buy their merchandise or attend a show. The music files themselves aren't the be all and end all of the business after all, and something like forty-nine out of every fifty artists will tell you that a thousand illegal downloads is just plain awesome, especially if they got even a single diehard fan out of it.

I'm not saying you don't have a point, because you do. For some people it IS totally about the money, and if their business model involves shutting out that aspect of exposure then the best of luck to them, and nobody should touch their work without paying. However, if you think that's the way most bands operate, and I say this with the utmost respect and factuality, you really should try going to the bars and clubs where the unsigned and less known artists get together to play and ask them yourself. Most will probably point you to their Myspace pages were you can listen to and download the music for free.

 

[John Horn]

Gene Simmons - among the sleaziest people on the planet, an overrated talentless egotrip. His only real asset is his tongue.

That said, nobody should be pummeled by cyber-terrorists for uttering an opinion. No matter how retarded the opinion.

 

[Mr Companion]

Trying to catch members of anonymous will be like catching wet soap in a tub of lubricant. On the other hand its always fun to see people try so I encourage both sides to go at it like angry dogs.

 

[Ickorus]

I just lost all respect for Gene Simmons, I didn't really know much of him to begin with but I can't respect a guy who says you should sue your fans because they can't afford to buy your music at the time.

Im not saying I support Anonymous either, I never liked them to begin with even if they do occationally serve a good cause.

Also not saying I think people should download music, if you like something you should buy it so the artist can continue to create that music you like; I just think there has to be a better way than ruining someones life and then sending them to jail over £0.99 worth of music.

I think more musicians should use the 'You tell us what it's worth' payment method where a person can choose how much they want to give to the musician, I know from personal experience I paid well over the odds for an album from a musician I liked purely because of that system.

 

[Chibz]

Give him hell, anon. I'd help, but I've got things to do. You know, gaming things that are also legal.

 

[theultimateend]

It's weird.

Before this story I didn't have feelings one way or the other.

But Gene Simmons sounds like an asshole, I'm not shocked his site gets hit.

I'm in the works of publishing books and the digital versions won't have any DRM, frankly the word of mouth from that sort of dispersement makes up for the potential loss of revenue.

I'm glad at least Notch gets it.

Then again, I'm not sure anyone in their right mind would pirate KISS. Their demographic isn't known for torrenting really.

Not that they are bad, just a different generation I'd figure.

 

[hem dazon 90]

Trying to catch members of anonymous will be like catching wet soap in a tub of lubricant. On the other hand its always fun to see people try so I encourage both sides to go at it like angry dogs.

Can I quote you in an ED Article?

Gene Simmons - among the sleaziest people on the planet, an overrated talentless egotrip. His only real asset is his tongue.

That said, nobody should be pummeled by cyber-terrorists for uttering an opinion. No matter how retarded the opinion.

Oh yeah we are uber scary HAXORZ on steroids!11!


Seriously get a clue dude.