GeoHot Claims Sony Is Misleading the Courts in PS3 Legal Battle

[Grunt_Man11]

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Buddy, you better smell what you are shoveling, you are doing the exact thing that you are saying everyone else is doing

Um... what?

Try actually reading my post before replying to it next time.

 

[Zom-B]

Better a corporate monarchy than a pirate anarchy, simply because I hate pirates with a passion.

There's this book by a guy named George Orwell you might want to read called 1984...

 

[Burgertime]

Public relations and other such sources prior to the PS3 being released all mentioned the OtherOS feature and praised what it could do. This constitutes as advertising. Even Sony's President (who's no longer with the company right now) talked about what you could do with having Linux on the PS3.
There are people who bought a PS3 because this feature was mentioned, and then Sony went and removed it in what has been the only case of "This is an optional update" that we've ever seen on the system. There was absolutely nothing different to that update that changed it to being optional, yet everyone that defends Sony will point at that word at treat it like solid gold fact.

The way I'm taking this Geohotz thing: Don't even look at him, look at how Sony reacts. OtherOS was removed and tighter security to the USB ports which disabled 3rd party PS1/2 to PS3 controller adapters. Anyone who owns an original Namco Arcade Stick (one of the best older sticks for fighting games) can't use it anymore unless they get one of the few adapters that still works, and there's a change that those might be blocked out as well. Sony also wants to go after anyone who's even visited the guys website.
Geohotz =/= all hackers, and unfortunately that's how too many people see him has, all hackers.

Think of this. What if Sony decided that certain games weren't selling very well in certain regions because people were importing them? Suddenly there's a firmware update that adds region protection and disables the use of a bunch of your games. You'd be highly ticked off, while the people who have never imported would probably mouth off and tell you to "shut up and deal, buy games from your own country". There's nothing on the packaging of the PS3 that states that you can play all regions on it. They'd say that they never advertised it, and changes are good they'd attempt to block anyone who had a trophy from another region.

 

[Asehujiko]

Question, if Geohotz had completely wiped his ps3 and wrote his own OS to run on it without any trace of Sony's software, would there be a problem? Because the hardware is bought by him and he owns it, but the software is a different matter entirely.

I ask because Sony has never worried about case modders and hardware upgrades like making PS3 laptops and such

He pissed them off by telling them that they got owned right after a completely unrelated and unaffiliated hacker group(why is this fact so hard to understand?) figured out their master encryption key.

So effectively, Sony is throwing a hissy fit and the corporo-facists here are cheering on them because the guy whose life is being destroyed over an ill-received blog post shares an occupation with file sharers.

 

[Jumplion]

The way I'm taking this Geohotz thing: Don't even look at him, look at how Sony reacts...

Can't really blame them for reacting that way. Not saying I support them as I don't support a goddamn thing about this whole situation, but I see this in four different perspectives; The Pirate, the Hacker, the Company, and the Consumer.

The Pirates start pirating (at least moreso) after they break through the security.
Sony releases firmware updates to prevent piracy.
Pirates circumvent that and continue to pirate.
Sony releases another firmware update to protect the property.
Pirates still circumvent that.
Sony remove "OtherOS" because it (supposedly) aides in the pirating of games.
Hackers get pissed, start complaining about "False advertising" (even though they haven't advertised it one bit).
Pirates still pirate.
Sony updates with more firmware while trying to deal with the hackers who are breaking their system.
Hackers break Sony's system. Geohotz/FailOverflow release security keys or whatever that probably caused more damage that they did good.
Sony go apeshit, they get paranoid, release more firmware updates and go for Geohotz.
Geohotz does a rap.
Sony demand for Geohotz's computers and stuff to try and prevent this stuff from spreading along further.
Pirates still pirate.

Consumers are screwed with firmware updates and DRM, not just from Sony but from other companies worried about piracy on the PS3. This is not just Sony's issue, this is a potential problem for everyone who put games on the system.

Don't laugh and say "Ho ho ho! Sony are just wasting their time! They're not addressing the real issue with the pirates! They should just give up!", because Geohotz and the hackers aren't helping Sony.

I don't know who's in the "right" and I don't care who's in the "right" (though I might sound biased to Geohotz, but I'm not trying to be). I dislike how Geohotz is being an annoying prick, and he did release classified information regarding Sony's security, and I doubt that's protected in law. But Sony aren't even fighting the real fight here, and they're becoming increasingly paranoid about the whole situation, and in the end they are only harming their consumers.

If there's anybody who should get the blame, blame the pirates. They are the root of all the shit that's going on here, and now Sony and the Hackers are fighting a battle that they shouldn't be doing in the first place.

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

This complaint seems to hinge on the exact wording of the PS3 Software Developer Kit. According to Sony, if it found the SDK on Hotz's computer, that would prove the connection between Hotz and California - where SCE America is based - and would thus settle any dispute over jurisdiction. Sony petitioned the caught for permission to search Hotz's computers for evidence of the SDK.

You misspelt court in the second paragraph. Damn homonyms!

Not necessarily:

This here problem seems to hinge on the truth of them's words for that there PS3 Softyware Developers Kit thingy. Sony dun'say if it finds it, maybe as one o' dem interbanet files, it would show Hotz and could be tried in Caiforny, cause they'd have juridistiction. Sony dun asked the judge and his caught to check this boy's computationer fror evidens evida proof.

Well done, that made me laugh.

 

[Pendragon9]

Better a corporate monarchy than a pirate anarchy, simply because I hate pirates with a passion.

There's this book by a guy named George Orwell you might want to read called 1984...

There is a crisis in Somalia where pirates brutally murder people who disagree with them, all because they want money.

I'd rather live in 1984 than be murdered by pirates.

 

[Zom-B]

I think you've confused software pirates and real, murdering, violent pirates.