Germany on the verge of total ban of all video games

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Christemo

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this is insane. and i live in Denmark, right next to them. oh how jealous they will be of us! >:)
 

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Yossarian90 said:
This really annoys me, banning something completley never really works. Someone is always gonna do it and more people are gonna do it if its banned.
I do agree that completly banning something does not work, but people doing it more when its banned i dont think is right. I live in America and Cocaine is banned but more people dont do cocaine because its banned. You just hear about it more. When something is banned and someone gets caught doing it then they tell people. Like if a crack addict, who likes video games, robs a store and gets caught the police report will say that he did drugs also, not play video games.

Ok, on topic. If they ban video games in Germany there will be a huge backlash, not to mention an influx of inmates in their jails. This is how the conversation will go:

Inmate 1: Im in here because I killed someone.
Inmate 2: Im in here because I pretended to kill someone.
 

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Kukul said:
I can almost see it:

At first an angry mob will walk the streets vandalising every video game shop.
Then they will search people's houses for violent games (hiding them will be a punishable offence) and load them onto trains that will transport them to Poland, where they will be burnt in special facilities. They will call it Final Solution of Violent Video Games Question.
I see what you did there, and only you could get away with something like that (just about).

theSovietConnection said:
ChromeAlchemist said:
The censorship agency they created (which has a name too long to post, oh shoot I'll do it anyway: Bundesprüfstelle für jugendgefährdende Medien or BPjM) exists to protect minors from what they perceive to be 'harmful content', and I forgot what article of German law it was that said something along the lines of 'freedom of expression and artistic freedom are not without limits'.
Article 5 of the Basic Law for the Federal Republic of Germany:
1.Every person shall have the right freely to express and disseminate his opinions in speech, writing, and pictures and to inform himself without hindrance from generally accessible sources. Freedom of the press and freedom of reporting by means of broadcasts and films shall be guaranteed. There shall be no censorship.

2.These rights shall find their limits in the provisions of general laws, in provisions for the protection of young persons, and in the right to personal honor.

3.Art and scholarship, research, and teaching shall be free. The freedom of teaching shall not release any person from allegiance to the constitution.
Bolded the ironic parts.

I personally don't see this lasting. I'm not entirely certain if violent video games cause violence, I don't know enough to firmly say they do or don't. However, I can sure bet mass banning of an entire medium will bring violence about.
Yes thank you, Article 5. There is no firm evidence to support this claim, and never will be. But yes banning of not an entire medium, after all games aren't being banned full stop, but violent games will bring about a very severe backlash indeed.
 

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I wish that law would come true, because it would mean a massive increase in piracy in germany, which would make ISPs build better infrastructure to accomodate the huge increase in bandwidth demand.
 

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They might as well ban movies and music as well...

I mean after all, watching someone slice off someone else's limbs in a movie or hearing someone rap or sing about killing people is so not an issue when simply pressing buttons on a controller apparently is...
 

bradley348

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No call of duty?

ok ok listn, this aint about germany not wanting violence, this is about germany hiding its 1939-45 shame.
 

A random person

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Machines Are Us said:
"All serial killers tend to eat, sleep, drink and wear clothes. Therefore these shall all be prohibited."

Cause and Effect people, c'mon it's not hard.

Violent People like Violent Video Games.
Violent Video Games do not make Violent People.
You, sir, understand cause and effect better than most people. We teach it in school, but apparently not very well if these studies are any indication.
 

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theSovietConnection said:
ChromeAlchemist said:
The censorship agency they created (which has a name too long to post, oh shoot I'll do it anyway: Bundesprüfstelle für jugendgefährdende Medien or BPjM) exists to protect minors from what they perceive to be 'harmful content', and I forgot what article of German law it was that said something along the lines of 'freedom of expression and artistic freedom are not without limits'.
Article 5 of the Basic Law for the Federal Republic of Germany:
1.Every person shall have the right freely to express and disseminate his opinions in speech, writing, and pictures and to inform himself without hindrance from generally accessible sources. Freedom of the press and freedom of reporting by means of broadcasts and films shall be guaranteed. There shall be no censorship.

2.These rights shall find their limits in the provisions of general laws, in provisions for the protection of young persons, and in the right to personal honor.

3.Art and scholarship, research, and teaching shall be free. The freedom of teaching shall not release any person from allegiance to the constitution.
Bolded the ironic parts.

I personally don't see this lasting. I'm not entirely certain if violent video games cause violence, I don't know enough to firmly say they do or don't. However, I can sure bet mass banning of an entire medium will bring violence about.
Hooray for poorly written legislation!

Also, [insert rant on why protecting minors is pointless and why they should be free to view what they wish]. I just don't think it's all that bad for them to be exposed to media and the censorship's purely a nonproductive source of frustration.
 

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This coming from a country that has conscription. Ironic.

I feel bad for young Germans with a government like that.
 

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Kukul said:
I can almost see it:

At first an angry mob will walk the streets vandalising every video game shop.
Then they will search people's houses for violent games (hiding them will be a punishable offence) and load them onto trains that will transport them to Poland, where they will be burnt in special facilities. They will call it Final Solution of Violent Video Games Question.
Godwin'd, g'night folks.
*plays commercial break music and has credit's promo*
 

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ChromeAlchemist said:
with the law only having to go through parliament in the next few weeks.
The "only" is your mistake. Our ministers come up with shit like that every week, it just never passes parliament.

If it was for the ministers, games, guns, cars, alcohol, cigarettes, porn and swearing would be banned by now (at one point or another they did have the majority of ministers on the side to ban those things. And that's been the last 10 years).
You have to remember that on country-level our ministers are kinds like the Queen in the UK: They are the face, they can say what they want, but what actually happens is most times not really related to them.
On the state-level it's a different game, since their party usually holds a majority in that state and can do almost whatever they want (until someone is pissed off by it and calls to the Bundesverfassungsgericht (Federal Constitutional Court) and they undo whatever was done).
 

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bradley348 said:
No call of duty?

ok ok listn, this aint about germany not wanting violence, this is about germany hiding its 1939-45 shame.
This reminds me of a Family Guy joke. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFCSWS469fc]
Sorry for the poor "recording the screen" quality, it's what was available.
 

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A random person said:
Kukul said:
I can almost see it:

At first an angry mob will walk the streets vandalising every video game shop.
Then they will search people's houses for violent games (hiding them will be a punishable offence) and load them onto trains that will transport them to Poland, where they will be burnt in special facilities. They will call it Final Solution of Violent Video Games Question.
Godwin'd, g'night folks.
*plays commercial break music and has credit's promo*