Girl Stuff: Does it ALL Suck?

[onew]

I believe some of the stuff marketed towards adolescent girls gives them the mentality that it's okay to be a snooty ***** because they are a princess or that boys like girls with an attitude.

Where is the "Nurturing Mother" Barbie? Or the "Career Woman" Barbie? Maybe if it wasn't all princesses and dolls called "Bratz" (I hate people who are brats), then there would be more well adjusted girls and not the psycho chicks I meet on a daily basis.

Everything else is water under the bridge for me. If a company wants to market their product to left handed lepors with daddy issues, then that is their business. If I was going to nitpick one aspect of marketing, then I'd need to do it for everything, and I don't want to do that because I enjoyed playing with my GI Joes as a kid.

They had barbies that had careers. Unfortunately, they were the stereotypical jobs that women are "supposed" to have like being a teacher. Still, it was better than Bratz.

 

[NeutralDrow]

Some yaoi is pretty good, since it can get pretty silly (in addition to a very few that are actually pretty good stories). 'Course, when I think that, I immediately have to wonder if women view all the yuri I read and imagine in the same way.

 

[Malithar]

Dude, Food Network is awesome, it has the ability to entertain me when i'm bored like NO other infomercial has ever done...

BAM! Like Emeril.

 

[Not Good]

You could be more specific.

Why bother? It's accurate enough.

No. It isn't.

 

[Not Good]

Some yaoi is pretty good, since it can get pretty silly (in addition to a very few that are actually pretty good stories). 'Course, when I think that, I immediately have to wonder if women view all the yuri I read and imagine in the same way.

You would wonder that, wouldn't you? I would too. if.. I had yuri.

 

[Low Key]

I believe some of the stuff marketed towards adolecent girls gives them the mentality that it's okay to be a snooty ***** because they are a princess or that boys like girls with an attitude.

Where is the "Nurturing Mother" Barbie? Or the "Career Woman" Barbie? Maybe if it wasn't all princesses and dolls called "Bratz" (I hate people who are brats), then there would be more well adjusted girls and not the psycho chicks I meet on a daily basis.

Everything else is water under the bridge for me. If a company wants to market their product to left handed lepors with daddy issues, then that is their business. If I was going to nitpick one aspect of marketing, then I'd need to do it for everything, and I don't want to do that because I enjoyed playing with my GI Joes as a kid.

Where is the blue collar action figure? or the corporate lawyer action figure with amazing subpoena issuing action?

Girl toys and shows are fantasy, just like boy toys and shows.

girls who can't seperate reality from fantasy by the time they grow up will fail at life, just like boys who can't do the same.

Most girl's toys are a representation of real life, whereas most boy's toys are not. For example, you have a Malibu Barbie. It's a representation of a rich girl who doesn't know the worth of a dollar. Ninja Turtles and Ghostbusters are fantasy. I don't run around trying to kill an upright standing, talking Rhino named Rocksteady or try to capture ghosts with my proton pack, but I do constantly see girls who would rather go shopping than pay their bills.

And if you need further proof, look at what crap is on TV for women my age. First, soap operas. It's a representation of real life, except with tons of fake drama, drama that would NEVER happen in everyday life. Second, reality TV. It's in the title for christ sake. The only difference between reality TV and soap operas is that the soaps are dramatizations, whereas reality TV is just a bunch of retards being taped.

 

[Not Good]

All of this shit (minus Eazy Bake oven but it's arguable) is mainly market toward females. And don't you go and say "Oh but I'm a guy and I played with that stuff" You don't count, it's who it was Marketed to, not who actually bought it.

But 'complete shit' is entirely an opinion. So the guys out there who have tried the girly things and got enjoyment out of them when they we're young, or even now, do count because they are the only people on here (except for a small number of ladies) who might disagree and make a counter argument. Otherwise it's just one big circle jerk of everyone agreeing with each other. =P

I find that Rule 30 is a complete lie and is only there to safeguard against 60 year-old naked chinamen.

 

[StarStruckStrumpets]

Vagina's are pretty awesome. Point being that girl stuff isn't necessarily bad, just girly.

/thread.

I imagine the pain of a baby coming out of your vagina sucks pretty bad though...despite how miraculous it might feel when you see the thing. Though I gotta agree with Max, most stuff does suck.

 

[NeutralDrow]

Some yaoi is pretty good, since it can get pretty silly (in addition to a very few that are actually pretty good stories). 'Course, when I think that, I immediately have to wonder if women view all the yuri I read and imagine in the same way.

You would wonder that, wouldn't you? I would too. if.. I had yuri.

It's pretty easy to find on the internet.

...and pretty easy to imagine when you're a Konoka/Setsuna and Nodoka/Yue shipper, but that's another story. ^^;

 

[Frizzle]

Eazy Bake Oven

Okay, so the one useful thing ever created for children, you want to go away? Seriously?
"Mom/Dad I'm hungry!"
"See that plastic box over there? it's called an Eazy Bake Oven. It's easy, and it bakes you things. Go follow the instructions and never talk to me again about food."\

Half the problem with children, solved!!!

 

[CoziestPigeon]

does that mean that good mass media will be primarily marketed to a more masculine audience? If not, what are some counter-examples?

No, it doesn't.

To be fair, most stuff sucks.
Regardless of who it's aimed at.

NO. Transformers?! Mighty Max?! Creepy Crawlers?! LEGO!? That shit did NOT suck!

 

[Lucane]

What about Disney's other projects? I can't think of many right now but I'd think you'd be hard pressed to say that Kim Possible is targeted to young women and a terrible show.

Oh and what about MTV's Daria (one of thier better shows in personal opion over the years.) it was about a girl who was a social outcast in her school who didn't let it bother her while having a sister who was typicly one of the popular girls dealing with a varity of issues from growing up.
Edited.

 

[Not Good]

What about Disney's other projects? I can't think of many right now but I'd think you'd be hard pressed to say that Kim Possible isn't targeted to young women and a terrible show.

I did say Disney Channel.

 

[Name Not Found]

Hey, lingerie is marketed towards females.

No man can say that this item sucks.

 

[Shoto Koto]

I believe some of the stuff marketed towards adolecent girls gives them the mentality that it's okay to be a snooty ***** because they are a princess or that boys like girls with an attitude.

Where is the "Nurturing Mother" Barbie? Or the "Career Woman" Barbie? Maybe if it wasn't all princesses and dolls called "Bratz" (I hate people who are brats), then there would be more well adjusted girls and not the psycho chicks I meet on a daily basis.

Everything else is water under the bridge for me. If a company wants to market their product to left handed lepors with daddy issues, then that is their business. If I was going to nitpick one aspect of marketing, then I'd need to do it for everything, and I don't want to do that because I enjoyed playing with my GI Joes as a kid.

Where is the blue collar action figure? or the corporate lawyer action figure with amazing subpoena issuing action?

Girl toys and shows are fantasy, just like boy toys and shows.

girls who can't seperate reality from fantasy by the time they grow up will fail at life, just like boys who can't do the same.

Well I'm not sure about that, I agree that a girl that does not grow out of thinking she is a princess or whatever is likely to not do so great at life. But boys, the kind of things advertised towards them is quite different, things like Action Man for example. Okay so boys arn't going to go around kiling Dr X but they may well join the army, which isn't exactly failing at life.

 

[Insanum]

I think tetris could solve all problems.

 

[veloper]

Hey, lingerie is marketed towards females.

No man can say that this item sucks.

What you wear suspenders and a bra?
That sucks also.

 

[Escapefromwhatever]

The quality of something does not depend on its target audience as much as it relies upon its overall dedication and soul. Many of the things you mentioned are generic money-grubbing products dressed up in pink to appeal to girls. However, all this does is overload the market with crap (often that crap is well-received, but people are idiots, so...) and offend those girls who are smart enough to realize that they are being pandered to. Still, if it has heart, vision, and a dedication to quality, rather than a get-rich-quick mentality, or an attitude of talking down to the audience, then it can be good. For instance, Powerpuff Girls was great. Remember when the mayor killed Navi? That was great.

 

[Lucane]

What about Disney's other projects? I can't think of many right now but I'd think you'd be hard pressed to say that Kim Possible isn't targeted to young women and a terrible show.

I did say Disney Channel.

You did but I'm saying that Kim Possible is a good/great show to be a role model for standards for young girlsto still be feminate while being heroic popular intelligent and athletic.

Edit: Oh I mistyped my original post.

 

[yeah_so_no]

And for that matter, Twilight? That caters exclusively to adolescent females.
So does the JB, and that's for any female
So does The rest of Disney Channel
Eazy Bake Oven
Barbie
Bratz
MTV
TEENick and Noggin
Oprah
Food Network

All of this shit (minus Eazy Bake oven but it's arguable) is mainly market toward females. And don't you go and say "Oh but I'm a guy and I played with that stuff" You don't count, it's who it was Marketed to, not who actually bought it.

I don't know, but is all shit marketed towards girls complete shit? And if that is the case, does that mean that good mass media will be primarily marketed to a more masculine audience? If not, what are some counter-examples?

Easy Bake Ovens are awesome, yo. I loved mine as a kid. But Barbie sucks.

As for Food Network, I dunno because I've never watched it, but some of my friends love it. And my mom likes Oprah. And since when is MTV marketed women?

I could ask the same thing and ask why some things aimed for guys suck--like, monster truck rallies, I'm-compensating muscle cars, and Maxim.