Girl Stuff: Does it ALL Suck?

[hypothetical fact]

Some yaoi is pretty good, since it can get pretty silly (in addition to a very few that are actually pretty good stories). 'Course, when I think that, I immediately have to wonder if women view all the yuri I read and imagine in the same way.

You would wonder that, wouldn't you? I would too. if.. I had yuri.

It's pretty easy to find on the internet.

...and pretty easy to imagine when you're a Konoka/Setsuna and Nodoka/Yue shipper, but that's another story. ^^;

You're not missing much. All yuri boils down to are a couple of girls that fear commitment or are too naive to see the blindingly obvious actions of their peers.

 

[Skeleon]

I love it when girls suck.
Wait, what?
Oh, that kind of stuff. Well, I just ignore it and move on, it's better for both my blood pressure and sanity.

 

[twistedshadows]

I don't know, but is all shit marketed towards girls complete shit? And if that is the case, does that mean that good mass media will be primarily marketed to a more masculine audience?

I don't consider half the things on your list to be aimed exclusively toward adolescent females. I also think there are a ton of stupid products and programs marketed toward adolescent males, so your point doesn't really make sense to me. Yeah, there are shitty products on the market for girls... but there are for boys as well; crappy products and images aren't limited to just one gender. And while young girls are being pointed toward silly princesses swathed in pink as role-models, boys are being guided toward massive he-men who are brandishing cars and guns.

I could ask the same thing and ask why some things aimed for guys suck--like, monster truck rallies, I'm-compensating muscle cars, and Maxim.

To be fair, most stuff sucks.
Regardless of who it's aimed at.

Exactly, to both of the above.

 

[Low Key]

I believe some of the stuff marketed towards adolecent girls gives them the mentality that it's okay to be a snooty ***** because they are a princess or that boys like girls with an attitude.

Where is the "Nurturing Mother" Barbie? Or the "Career Woman" Barbie? Maybe if it wasn't all princesses and dolls called "Bratz" (I hate people who are brats), then there would be more well adjusted girls and not the psycho chicks I meet on a daily basis.

Everything else is water under the bridge for me. If a company wants to market their product to left handed lepors with daddy issues, then that is their business. If I was going to nitpick one aspect of marketing, then I'd need to do it for everything, and I don't want to do that because I enjoyed playing with my GI Joes as a kid.

Where is the blue collar action figure? or the corporate lawyer action figure with amazing subpoena issuing action?

Girl toys and shows are fantasy, just like boy toys and shows.

girls who can't seperate reality from fantasy by the time they grow up will fail at life, just like boys who can't do the same.

Well I'm not sure about that, I agree that a girl that does not grow out of thinking she is a princess or whatever is likely to not do so great at life. But boys, the kind of things advertised towards them is quite different, things like Action Man for example. Okay so boys arn't going to go around kiling Dr X but they may well join the army, which isn't exactly failing at life.

But for men, the military is a very real possibility, and once we get used to the fact that death is a part of that possibility, we tend to take it a little more seriously. Aside from that though, I'd say that most men don't grow out of their childish antics like watching cartoons for instance, or letting off a fart that can be heard from 3 blocks away. To us guys, escaping reality is what we do best. Why? Because this world seems to be a cesspool of degenerates who feel the need to make my life a living hell. No reason to stay clocked in mentally if that is the case.

 

[Charli]

Actually to be honest...being a girl I haven't kept ANY 'girly girl' stuff I was given to me by friends or family, but stuff like beanie babies, comic books, old N64 games, and mountains of pencils... you know stuff anyone can enjoy. I've kept.

I'm an odd case though as much as it was shoved at me, it never kept my interest for long, I was just as interested in the Power Ranger action figurines as I was in some stupid 'latest' Barbie avaliable. And thats not much.

I was however a Disney child, so shut up, Disney princesses rock.... I even had a Belle 'Ball gown dress. And a 'Beast's Mirror' that made this fun sound.
But then I liked cartoons about anything. Weather it was on Nick, crapped out of japan or the latest from Disney Studios. Pretty much why you can guess what line of work I'd like to be in.

 

[CoziestPigeon]

NO. Transformers?! Mighty Max?! Creepy Crawlers?! LEGO!? That shit did NOT suck!

I've never seen an episode of/play with a Transformers.

...I dunno what Mighty Max is.
Or Creepy Crawlers.

LEGOs were neat though.

But I did say most.

QQ lez read moar lolz
(just kidding)

You...
Don't know...
Wh-...Guh
Your poor childhood. Go, google these things. NOW. You owe it to yourself.

 

[traceur_]

Well what is marketed to boys that is any good?

Transformers.

 

[Low Key]

And for that matter, Twilight? That caters exclusively to adolescent females.
So does the JB, and that's for any female
So does The rest of Disney Channel
Eazy Bake Oven
Barbie
Bratz
MTV
TEENick and Noggin
Oprah
Food Network

All of this shit (minus Eazy Bake oven but it's arguable) is mainly market toward females. And don't you go and say "Oh but I'm a guy and I played with that stuff" You don't count, it's who it was Marketed to, not who actually bought it.

I don't know, but is all shit marketed towards girls complete shit? And if that is the case, does that mean that good mass media will be primarily marketed to a more masculine audience? If not, what are some counter-examples?

Easy Bake Ovens are awesome, yo. I loved mine as a kid. But Barbie sucks.

As for Food Network, I dunno because I've never watched it, but some of my friends love it. And my mom likes Oprah. And since when is MTV marketed women?

I could ask the same thing and ask why some things aimed for guys suck--like, monster truck rallies, I'm-compensating muscle cars, and Maxim.

Not every guy with a muscle car is trying to compensate, it's just that most guys who need to compensate happen to have one. It ruins it for those of us who like muscle cars because they are fast and look cool.

As far as the MTV thing goes, no self respecting guy would willingly watch the reality drivel they feel so obligated to air. Sorry if you happen to like it, but it's bad television. With shows named "A Shot At Love" and "Girls Next Door", it's very apparent MTV is geared towards women. Even before they stopped playing music videos, it was as well, but that is mainly attributed to the fact that more women buy albums than men. It would be stupid for a company not to market their product to the people who buy it the most.

 

[Evilvikingking]

Yes

 

[Low Key]

Well what is marketed to boys that is any good?

Transformers.

That's a matter of opinion.

NO. Transformers?! Mighty Max?! Creepy Crawlers?! LEGO!? That shit did NOT suck!

I've never seen an episode of/play with a Transformers.

...I dunno what Mighty Max is.
Or Creepy Crawlers.

LEGOs were neat though.

But I did say most.

QQ lez read moar lolz
(just kidding)

You...
Don't know...
Wh-...Guh
Your poor childhood. Go, google these things. NOW. You owe it to yourself.

He was born in 1992. You can't expect him to know/care about the stuff we grew up with.

 

[IronDuke]

Toilet paper advertising is mainly targeted to women, I think, but I think that it is good and admit to using it.

When I read this, I imagined a person going to wipe his/her ass and having to read a coca cola logo on every sheet of paper, or maybe a different company on every sheet.

Please tell me you just meant ads on tv. I'm sure you did and I shouldnt let my imagination out of its cage.

 

[TZer0]

Well what is marketed to boys that is any good?

Lego.

It was awesome building a chopper with automatically rotating blades.

 

[Low Key]

He was born in 1992. You can't expect him to know/care about the stuff we grew up with.

Bingo.

Though to be fair, I don't care about any of the stuff I grew up with either.
Mostly because my first memory is around age nine.

I find it somewhat funny though because I just looked at CoziestPigeon's age, and he's only 2 years older than you. I guess 2 years is all it takes. I bet if I told him about Mighty Mouse and He-Man, he'd have the same response for me as you did for him.

 

[El Poncho]

Well what is marketed to boys that is any good?

beyblades:|

 

[yeah_so_no]

Easy Bake Ovens are awesome, yo. I loved mine as a kid. But Barbie sucks.

As for Food Network, I dunno because I've never watched it, but some of my friends love it. And my mom likes Oprah. And since when is MTV marketed women?

I could ask the same thing and ask why some things aimed for guys suck--like, monster truck rallies, I'm-compensating muscle cars, and Maxim.

Not every guy with a muscle car is trying to compensate, it's just that most guys who need to compensate happen to have one. It ruins it for those of us who like muscle cars because they are fast and look cool.

Noooooooooooooo~~ comment~.

As far as the MTV thing goes, no self respecting guy would willingly watch the reality drivel they feel so obligated to air. Sorry if you happen to like it, but it's bad television. With shows named "A Shot At Love" and "Girls Next Door", it's very apparent MTV is geared towards women. Even before they stopped playing music videos, it was as well, but that is mainly attributed to the fact that more women buy albums than men. It would be stupid for a company not to market their product to the people who buy it the most.

Wouldn't know, haven't watched MTV in about ten years.

As for "it would be stupid for a company not to market their product to the people who buy it the most," well, women account for 80% or household purchases [http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6423213] and 65% of car purchases and 80-90% of big purchases [http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/11/24/MTKTTD8AB.DTL], yet most advertising is geared towards men, and things that are marketed towards women, as this post shows, are ridiculed. Riddle me that.

 

[HaircareForMen]

And for that matter, Twilight? That caters exclusively to adolescent females.

Here i was thinking it was called GAY!.

 

[Evilvikingking]

Well what is marketed to boys that is any good?

beyblades:|

Oh, please.

 

[Zersy]

Well what is marketed to boys that is any good?

Lets see

Games : AWESOME !
Chainsaws: AWESOME !
Rolex Watches: AWEOSOME !
Guns: AWESOME !
Hot Wheels: AWESOME !
Robots: AWESOME !

it just proves that guys have more fun