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dathwampeer said:
ShadowsofHope said:
dathwampeer said:
You know what pisses me off though. Peoples overreactions.

Yes this is horrible and the woman is clearly disturbed. But I hate how people on the internet (and the escapist especially) treat animals as if they're worth more than humans.

You lot see a video like this and start acting as if this is the worst crime imaginable. Hundreds of people murder other humans everyday. But one mentally deficient individual throws a load of puppies in a river and it's 'Hunt the ***** down and burn her!'
Just because animals aren't humans doesn't mean we don't have strong attachments to our domesticated pets. I have yet to see one member on this forum disregard human suffering, but still get outraged over drowning animals in a fucking river like this.
Humans are killed every day. We don't make threads about Bob who got stabbed by Tim unless the reason Tim stabbed Bob is something to do with gaming paraphernalia.

But we find a video about puppies being drowned and suddenly it's topic worthy.
Yes, because we know about this incident, and are made aware of the atrocity. I'm fairly sure the recent thread about the sex offender over Xbox Live had just as much revulsion to the topic from posters, no?

You know there is human suffering each and every day, that is without doubt. But do we personally know the extent of that suffering, to each specific case and to be aware of it in order to have such emotions be evoked by witnessing the crime? Not all the time, no. There is a difference.
 

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dathwampeer said:
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Because no matter how much you wanna fuck that chimp. It's not human bro.
I'm just gonna be straight here, this was probably the best post ever, I laughed my ass of at that line, I hate when people try to distract you from the important points by splitting hairs like "people are technically animals" when it's totally irrelevant.

Seriously, good for you, too many people forsake logic, but I love the point-by-point clusterfuck, it's my favorite type of post.

I agree mostly with what you said, except the part that her life is worth more than those puppies, is an average human worth more? Yes. Is she worth more than a single puppy? Probably. All those puppies? No, because she's a crazy puppy killer, so she's not worth very much.
Lol

I'm glad it made someone other than me chuckle XD

Yea. I know where you're coming from. Because of her actions she is kind of lessening her worth. And if it came down to me choosing to save a bucket full of puppies or her from some impending doom, you'd better believe I'd choose the puppies.

But from a legal and probably ethical view. She's still human and I don't condone 'burning the *****' just because we hate her. That shit sounds good on paper. But it would just be people burning people all over the place within a week if that was made law.

I say if we find her. Provide her local police with the video and the address. And let shit get sorted out properly.

If she gets off scott free then we can discuss the other options... probably including napalm.
I'm not saying I would try to hurt her.......but let me just say that if /b/ DOES find her, it's certainly not going to upset me.
 

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dathwampeer said:
ShadowsofHope said:
dathwampeer said:
You know what pisses me off though. Peoples overreactions.

Yes this is horrible and the woman is clearly disturbed. But I hate how people on the internet (and the escapist especially) treat animals as if they're worth more than humans.

You lot see a video like this and start acting as if this is the worst crime imaginable. Hundreds of people murder other humans everyday. But one mentally deficient individual throws a load of puppies in a river and it's 'Hunt the ***** down and burn her!'
Just because animals aren't humans doesn't mean we don't have strong attachments to our domesticated pets. I have yet to see one member on this forum disregard human suffering, but still get outraged over drowning animals in a fucking river like this.
Humans are killed every day. We don't make threads about Bob who got stabbed by Tim unless the reason Tim stabbed Bob is something to do with gaming paraphernalia.

But we find a video about puppies being drowned and suddenly it's topic worthy.

It's something with most humans. They're more bothered about cute little fluffy bundles of innocence than they are about every other fucker around them.

It's the same distinction between other animals.

Pandas refuse to fuck each other and people drop their lively hoods and go and try and force the dumb shits to mate with each other. Honestly the amount of money that has gone to saving Pandas physically disgusts me.

Does anyone care that the Yangtze river dolphin is now extinct? Of course not. Because it lived in muddy water were no one could see it and it wasn't considered cute.

Does anyone mind that there are like 10 species of cave dwelling arachnids and insects that are probably going to become extinct in the next 10 years? Fuck no, because they're not fluffy and adorable.

People are fundamentally biased and retarded.
I must say that I can see you point, but I can't really agree with you. Because I know that lots of money is being spent on saving the ugly animals. And that yes humans can be retarded, but we can do amzing things if we want too. I think that humans are not greater the animals, but animals are no greater then humans. We are both on the same level and we both look after each other. We used to any way. Until we cut down the trees and killed millions animals.

But I really can see you point. Good to met you.
 

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The funny thing is that most people in this thread wants to stop puppy-suffering by inflicting as much pain and suffering as possible. Now that's psychotic, you lot would make great Joker henchmen.
 

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Scarecrow 8 said:
And if you don't think that drowning puppies are disgusting, well.....lets just leave it at that.
Do you mean "drowning puppies is disgusting"? Because if not you've just said that puppies are disgusting when they're drowning.
 

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I'm a bit surprised this found it's way here. Saw the video though, the little lady just pitches those pups like it's nothing. You want the real challenge though? Google Zoltan Toepler. The man does it for a film, and he's given awards for it. I've seen it, and it's pretty rough stuff since the little guy fights the whole time, and you get to see into it's eyes as it slips away.

Our species.
 

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Treeinthewoods said:
Was anyone here raised in a rural environment? I was raised herding sheep, growing alfalfa and working on a neighbors dairy. To most people in rural areas animals are more of a tool then a pet (cats are kept on the farm to eat mice, dogs herd sheep and fight coyote). They are not family members in the least so killing one is the same as slaughtering one of your pigs or cows. One dog killed a chicken in my neighbors coop, he was shot upon discovery. A doberman pinscher that was on the farm for years pinned me down and bit me on the shoulder while I was playing on the haypile, my grandma shot him herself. My point is, this view is also held by people that live in cities and all kinds of places. Hell, in some areas your favorite pet would be sold by the pound with two veg!

If puppies are born and they are mixed breed (ie - won't be naturally good herding or working dogs) they are a burden, not a blessing. They keep your good ***** from working and they will only cost more money then they make you. Farm life is not easy, every penny really does count.

A common way to get rid of unwanted/useless puppies? Bag with rocks into the river. Remember, they are not people. Hell, if you think they are just assume the suffering is over and they won't have to starve later on or get beat the shit out of every day by uncaring owners.

I have a dog and two cats now (I live in the city at last) and I do care about them, but I would drown them all twice to save even one random human without thinking twice. Honestly, if you would prioritize an animal over a person you are at least as psychotic as the girl in the video.
I feed slightly less then feral cats. The only two people friendly cats on the place are my cat, and my ex's cat that she left there. Only one of those is a pet. The slightly feral cats population shifts around big toms come and go and between 4 and 5 other cats will hang around with kittens. Seems the average life expectancy of cats around there is 3-4 years. I don't get sad when any of the cats leave and don't come back. I just feed them so they spend their nights in the barn catching mice. I would keep a dog, but I have no need for the animals. Horses are not exactly a target of any predator around here.

Now I get where you are coming from, as those animals are just tools I have no vested interest in them, but you would never find me out kicking them around. That's what this video is. This is gleefully throwing puppies away without giving them a chance. Take them to the pound even if you are sure they are not going to get adopted out, then at least you gave them a chance, and a clean death with a needle.

Here is the thing, they didn't even try anything for those animals first. No I don't think animals deserve the level of compassion that people do, but I do think if they didn't want puppies they should have had the ***** fixed, and since it was their fault they should have at least attempted to find a home, it's a bit of responsibility. Animals are not people, but they are not things. People will take dogs that are four or five months old, those didn't even look like they have weened yet.

A willing cruelty like that, to laugh a bit like pleasure is derived from it? Well it shows other things about a person. And this comes from someone who hunts. I may kill animals for food and a bit of sport at the same time, but I am never wontedly cruel to them.
 

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megamanenm said:
Scarecrow 8 said:
And if you don't think that drowning puppies are disgusting, well.....lets just leave it at that.
Do you mean "drowning puppies is disgusting"? Because if not you've just said that puppies are disgusting when they're drowning.
I changed that post and I ment the people who drown puppies are disgusting.
 

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dathwampeer said:
You know what pisses me off though. Peoples overreactions.

Yes this is horrible and the woman is clearly disturbed. But I hate how people on the internet (and the escapist especially) treat animals as if they're worth more than humans.

You lot see a video like this and start acting as if this is the worst crime imaginable. Hundreds of people murder other humans everyday. But one mentally deficient individual throws a load of puppies in a river and it's 'Hunt the ***** down and burn her!'
Perhaps you've been beaten down enough, I'm too lazy to read through the rest of the responses.

But really, if you're a cruel enough person to casually dispose of puppies in the river while at least seeming to enjoy yourself, do we really want you on this earth? It's not like we're choosing between saving a puppy or a woman; here's a deranged person who just killed a bunch of puppies. You don't think that she should be punished for doing so?
Animals may not have the same value as a human life pound for pound, but they should be subject to the same morals that us humans face.
 

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Judgement101 said:
Blue-State said:
Chester41585 said:
I like how people are generally "meh" about homicides, but flip their shit when someone kills a puppy. It genuinely entertains me.
You seen this one?
I hate to say this but that cat thing makes me laugh, first off: I dislike cats. Second off: The cat lived. Third off: It's just so random.
There's nothing to say about that video other than that it's fucking weird. What's wrong with that woman? lolz
 

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stabnex said:
Honestly I'd throw a puppire into a fire after decapitating its body. I don't need undead puppires sucking out the blood of helpless puppies.

OT: And who says memes don't hurt anyone? Someone should throw HER into a river.

SPELL CHECK THE TITLE!!
Great, I think puppire has now entered my vocabulary, forever. Look what you've done! :p
 

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dathwampeer said:
It's the usual bullshit argument of "there's something worse, so this is just fine". You don't care about it? Why click on the thread and respond? There's always something worse happening in the world, it doesn't make bad things fine and it certainly doesn't make people idiots for being human and being bothered by someone capturing the enjoyment of cruelty and posting it to brag.

And I'd be happy - very happy if she was prosecuted for animal cruelty on a standard of a developed country that has such laws and upholds them. Unfortunately, as stated above, she's from Bosnia... and I just checked to be sure, they have no laws against animal cruelty.

I'm sorry you went looking for snuff videos, but I wasn't talking about you, said about the general public. Personally I haven't, nor have I any wish to see one. And again, worse things don't make bad things ok.

I also didn't say the fact she enjoyed the act to be proof of her being sane, I said she's either nuts or malevolent, the latter which is proved by her enjoying it. And no, sorry, enjoyment of taking a life of a helpless creature is not necessarily a sign of insanity, at least not in the legal/moral sense. Not saying she's wired right, just that the fact she isn't is not an excuse for what she's doing.

The bat thing was also a joke and a hyperbole, thought the strike-though of fist made it obvious :p

Anyway chill with the aggression, my point was just that your points didn't make what she was doing ok or even negligible.
 

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Treeinthewoods said:
Was anyone here raised in a rural environment? I was raised herding sheep, growing alfalfa and working on a neighbors dairy. To most people in rural areas animals are more of a tool then a pet (cats are kept on the farm to eat mice, dogs herd sheep and fight coyote). They are not family members in the least so killing one is the same as slaughtering one of your pigs or cows. One dog killed a chicken in my neighbors coop, he was shot upon discovery. A doberman pinscher that was on the farm for years pinned me down and bit me on the shoulder while I was playing on the haypile, my grandma shot him herself. My point is, this view is also held by people that live in cities and all kinds of places. Hell, in some areas your favorite pet would be sold by the pound with two veg!

If puppies are born and they are mixed breed (ie - won't be naturally good herding or working dogs) they are a burden, not a blessing. They keep your good ***** from working and they will only cost more money then they make you. Farm life is not easy, every penny really does count.

A common way to get rid of unwanted/useless puppies? Bag with rocks into the river. Remember, they are not people. Hell, if you think they are just assume the suffering is over and they won't have to starve later on or get beat the shit out of every day by uncaring owners.

I have a dog and two cats now (I live in the city at last) and I do care about them, but I would drown them all twice to save even one random human without thinking twice. Honestly, if you would prioritize an animal over a person you are at least as psychotic as the girl in the video.
Then I am glad that I don't live such a hard life and that I know that animals are more then tools. My life would have no meaning with out them.
 

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Treeinthewoods said:
Was anyone here raised in a rural environment? I was raised herding sheep, growing alfalfa and working on a neighbors dairy. To most people in rural areas animals are more of a tool then a pet (cats are kept on the farm to eat mice, dogs herd sheep and fight coyote). They are not family members in the least so killing one is the same as slaughtering one of your pigs or cows. One dog killed a chicken in my neighbors coop, he was shot upon discovery. A doberman pinscher that was on the farm for years pinned me down and bit me on the shoulder while I was playing on the haypile, my grandma shot him herself. My point is, this view is also held by people that live in cities and all kinds of places. Hell, in some areas your favorite pet would be sold by the pound with two veg!

If puppies are born and they are mixed breed (ie - won't be naturally good herding or working dogs) they are a burden, not a blessing. They keep your good ***** from working and they will only cost more money then they make you. Farm life is not easy, every penny really does count.

A common way to get rid of unwanted/useless puppies? Bag with rocks into the river. Remember, they are not people. Hell, if you think they are just assume the suffering is over and they won't have to starve later on or get beat the shit out of every day by uncaring owners.

I have a dog and two cats now (I live in the city at last) and I do care about them, but I would drown them all twice to save even one random human without thinking twice. Honestly, if you would prioritize an animal over a person you are at least as psychotic as the girl in the video.
IF someone shot my dog for an animal they were most likely going to send to get eaten they would be extremely lucky if all I did was shoot them once.

If you can't think of a more desireable method to die than drowning then you are stupid or dillusional enough to think that just because it's less traumatic for you it's less painful for them.

I would prioritize an animal over the kind of person who kills animals for no reason or stupid reasons. actually, that's too generous, I'd prioritize a plant over people who kill animals for no reason or stupid reasons.