Girls and Bullying

[EeveeElectro]

I wouldn't be surprised if this story is just a fabrication, just to get people worked up and spout out stuff about double standards.

If it is true, something should have been done, like expelling the girls. How is that 'prank' even funny? Some people have a weird sense of humour. I don't think their parents would give them a suitable punishment either, if they brought them up to act like that, I'm pretty sure they fail as parents.

 

[SilentCom]

The girls should be treated the same as if they were boys. Considering they forcibly pinned a boy and removed his clothe then post it online, they should have charges pressed. It was no accident, it is a step below gang rape.

Edit: Now that I think about it, what the girls did to him basically is rape. Not physically, but the rape of his dignity.

 

[Eggsnham]

Yup, this is how I know the world's going in the shitter.

When random people see others and feel okay with tackling them and taking their clothes off.

Fucking ridiculous.

 

[Tax_Document]

Yup, this is how I know the world's going in the shitter.

When random people see others and feel okay with tackling them and taking their clothes off.

Fucking ridiculous.

Your Avatar perfectly describes how I feel about this issue!

 

[UlytimateDestruction]

This is the kind of stuff that makes me very angry. I don't get why there not being charged for sexual assault. I bet your ass if that was the other way around, 3 14 year-old boys stripping an 11 year-old girl then they would file it as sexual assault. People need to stop judging people by there sex and the 3 girls need to be punished harsly for there crime.

 

[Womplord]

To anyone who says the boy should have defended himself, there were three girls and they were three years older each. And at the age those girls were, they have already started puberty and are bigger on average than boys of the same age.

 

[Eggsnham]

Yup, this is how I know the world's going in the shitter.

When random people see others and feel okay with tackling them and taking their clothes off.

Fucking ridiculous.

Your Avatar perfectly describes how I feel about this issue!

Thanks, it's pretty well suited for many things, actually.

Shock and awe, extreme happiness and general surprise, demonic possession, explosive diarrhea, etc.

You name it and my avatar can somehow make it better!

 

[Kakashi on crack]

In fact, being in America, I'm incredibly surprised they haven't been expelled. People get kicked out of school there for much less (personal experiences FTW)

Here in America, we have serious double standards which state basically that if you are a white male, you have less than half the rights of any other racial or gender-based person. In this case, the reason the girls weren't suspended/expelled is because of one of these double standards linked to ancient times that says "girls can do no wrong, but you boys are the devil!" While most countries have moved past this, us Americans can't seem to get it through our thick skulls that this is wrong. Ahhh, I envy you Europe...

OT: Yeaaaah, if this was the other way around, say a group of 14-15 y/o boys stripping an 11 year old girl and posting a video of it on the internet? We'd have child pornography charges, sexual assault charges, battery charges despite said charges filing under sexual assault, and then some... I don't care what the police officer said, if this was my child, I would be filing charges of sexual assault of a minor against these kids in a heartbeat, and I'd of already used a downloader to get the video off of YouTube to use as evidence. This is bullshit.

 

[Jumplion]

A disturbing thought came into my head while reading this thread;

What if the girls had actually gone a step farther and raped the boy? Would they even have gotten in trouble or get charged for it? Honestly, I doubt they would face harsher penalties in that situation...

Most things to be said have already been said; "If the genders were reversed it would have been attempted rape!", "Why isn't the mother pressing charges?", "Those girls are bitches of the highest calibur!", "They should be charged with distributing child pornography!"

So, yeah, these three girls are quite the bitches. They really need to get some form of punishment, but somehow I doubt that it will come to them...

 

[Verlander]

In fact, being in America, I'm incredibly surprised they haven't been expelled. People get kicked out of school there for much less (personal experiences FTW)

Here in America, we have serious double standards which state basically that if you are a white male, you have less than half the rights of any other racial or gender-based person. In this case, the reason the girls weren't suspended/expelled is because of one of these double standards linked to ancient times that says "girls can do no wrong, but you boys are the devil!" While most countries have moved past this, us Americans can't seem to get it through our thick skulls that this is wrong. Ahhh, I envy you Europe...

I appreciate that you feel this way, but you're way off.

For a start, for many thousands of years women were (and in many places, still are) treated as subhuman. Similarly, all you need to do is look at the long history, that stretches to modern day, of heavy racism and sexism with police forces in America.

White men aren't being treated worse, they're being treated equally for the first time in history. And it isn't very nice, is it?

 

[Cheesus333]

I think this is an interesting [http://partialobjects.com/2011/06/three-middle-school-girls-assault-11-yr-old-boy-and-nothing-happens/] take on this.

Because boys can't hit girls. That's programmed so deeply, so early on, from everywhere, that he doesn't even hit them when they are trying to strip his clothes off. And on some subconscious level, the girls have received exactly that same programming - that boys cannot hit girls - and it informed their actions. They never thought for a second that attacking the boy would place them at risk of a broken nose, black eye, or worse.

And this is why I will raise my sons to always treat a woman right, take care of her, and be a perfect gentleman... and knock her straight down if she attempts to kill or seriously injure him.

That out of the way... that is a very interesting point. We do, as ever, only know what the media let us know, and therefore react as they please. However, it doesn't change the facts: three girls humiliated and attacked a boy three years their younger and are receiving - as far as I can tell - no punishment for it. And this is not okay.

 

[Private Custard]

This story seems to be causing a bit of a shitstorm around the web, with feminists claiming this isn't the same as an assault on a girl, and anti-feminists arguing that they should be treated exactly the same..........you know, that equality thing they've been bitching about for so long!

Anyway, to put it in perspective, I took the text from the OPs original link and merely swapped the genders around.


FORT MYERS, Fla. - An online video shows a prank some would say went too far.

Three young boys from Dunbar Middle school videotaped themselves tackling an 11 year old girl and taking off her clothes. The group can be heard laughing at times and mocking the girl as she struggled to break free.

"She stopped to chat with her friend and they thought it would be funny," said the girls mother.

The child who we are not identifying is a 5Th grader at Ray Pottorf Elementary. Her mom says she only found out about the video when her older daughter, who goes to school with the boys, said his friends had seen the video online.

"You take her clothes off in broad daylight, in the middle of a busy neighborhood and then you post it on YouTube to tell all your friends look at what I did. Crime or not, it shouldn't happen," she added.

Fort Myers Police says the boys would have faced misdemeanor battery charges, but that the girls mother has refused to press charges. She wants the boys' parents to hand out a punishment instead.

The video has since been removed by YouTube.

Doesn't seem much like a 'prank that went too far' anymore eh?

 

[zeldagirl]

In fact, being in America, I'm incredibly surprised they haven't been expelled. People get kicked out of school there for much less (personal experiences FTW)

Here in America, we have serious double standards which state basically that if you are a white male, you have less than half the rights of any other racial or gender-based person.

I tried to get behind your whole post, I tried so hard but, um, yeah, NO.



Sexism is at play in this case...but it's not women being sexist towards men. There is certainly misandry surrounding this, yes (from the girls, and perhaps from their defenders), but basically, the sexist argument here is "girls are weaker than boys, therefore when they do this, it's not as serious."


It's a kind of sexism that hurts BOTH men and women, but it's not one gender putting down another (women ---> men), it's a social construct that *hurts both genders*.

 

[Dark_Fuzion14]

That boy needs to grow some.

And his mother should've got the police involved, because those girls arent going to get much punishment from their parents if they turned out like this.

 

[SilentCom]

That boy needs to grow some.

And his mother should've got the police involved, because those girls arent going to get much punishment from their parents if they turned out like this.

It would be hard for the boy to "grow some" if he hasn't even hit puberty yet, but I agree with police involvment. The girls' parents aren't likely to give out a serious enough punishment. I mean what can the parents do? Ground their kid for 'attempted rape'? Come on seriously.

 

[Lord_Nemesis]

Got to love the double-standard.

 

[ultrachicken]

If the mother isn't pressing charges, then she needs to be working out the situation with the other parents. Those girls need to learn that this is unacceptable, and lenient punishment isn't going to help.

I also sense that these girls are getting special treatment because they are both girls, and young. The girl bit has been hammered on by every post thus far, and the age bit ought to go without saying: at 14 you know what you're fucking doing.

 

[Shock and Awe]

Thats some pretty fucked up shit, and if the roles were reversed you know this shit would be on CNN. Oh equality...

 

[NeutralDrow]

My thoughts are drowned out by the grinding of my teeth over such blithering idiocy. Ask again later, when my fists stop clenching from <url=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.135672-Neutral-Drow-reviews-A-Drug-That-Makes-You-Dream>unpleasant flashbacks.

 

[EternalFacepalm]

The girls are stupid and the mother is an idiot. That's all I can say.
Fifty "I've lost faith in humanity"-threads upcoming, oh yes.