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ygetoff

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Vorpals said:
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Pay attention to the frequency with which she uses the word "adorable" to describe you or something you did. If it roughly averages to one utterance or greater per unit of conversation, sorry man: She pities you.
The problem is that we almost never actually talk (I'm only really interested in one of them, the one that hasn't hugged me), we just say hi and smile at each other a lot, and I want to start talking to her more often, but before that, I need to know if she pities me or just wants to know me or something.
Aha! If the one you're interested in laughs (shyly) at your jokes, she likes you but is shy. If she looks kinda annoyed, then you better start coming around less often.
 

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ygetoff said:
Vorpals said:
Jordan Deam said:
Pay attention to the frequency with which she uses the word "adorable" to describe you or something you did. If it roughly averages to one utterance or greater per unit of conversation, sorry man: She pities you.
The problem is that we almost never actually talk (I'm only really interested in one of them, the one that hasn't hugged me), we just say hi and smile at each other a lot, and I want to start talking to her more often, but before that, I need to know if she pities me or just wants to know me or something.
Aha! If the one you're interested in laughs (shyly) at your jokes, she likes you but is shy. If she looks kinda annoyed, then you better start coming around less often.
Since we only say "hi" to each other, I don't get to make jokes, and she doesn't look annoyed. She usually has a big grin on her face after I say hi to her.
 

ygetoff

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Vorpals said:
ygetoff said:
Vorpals said:
Jordan Deam said:
Pay attention to the frequency with which she uses the word "adorable" to describe you or something you did. If it roughly averages to one utterance or greater per unit of conversation, sorry man: She pities you.
The problem is that we almost never actually talk (I'm only really interested in one of them, the one that hasn't hugged me), we just say hi and smile at each other a lot, and I want to start talking to her more often, but before that, I need to know if she pities me or just wants to know me or something.
Aha! If the one you're interested in laughs (shyly) at your jokes, she likes you but is shy. If she looks kinda annoyed, then you better start coming around less often.
Since we only say "hi" to each other, I don't get to make jokes, and she doesn't look annoyed. She usually has a big grin on her face.
Then try talking to the huggy one, or talk to both. This has happened to me before, actually.
 

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I think this is pretty much everytime you're not someone she wants to go out with. After all I can bet she needs you a lot less than you want her, plus she knows you want to do naughty things to her and finds humour in this fact :p
Girls...know about the naughty things?
 

Johnn Johnston

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Well, if you start showing interest in her and she starts letting you know that you're a "really nice guy" (to use the cliché, but don't make those three words become a be-all-and-end-all), that's usually a sign that there is a minor bit of pity involved.
 

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ygetoff said:
Vorpals said:
ygetoff said:
Vorpals said:
Jordan Deam said:
Pay attention to the frequency with which she uses the word "adorable" to describe you or something you did. If it roughly averages to one utterance or greater per unit of conversation, sorry man: She pities you.
The problem is that we almost never actually talk (I'm only really interested in one of them, the one that hasn't hugged me), we just say hi and smile at each other a lot, and I want to start talking to her more often, but before that, I need to know if she pities me or just wants to know me or something.
Aha! If the one you're interested in laughs (shyly) at your jokes, she likes you but is shy. If she looks kinda annoyed, then you better start coming around less often.
Since we only say "hi" to each other, I don't get to make jokes, and she doesn't look annoyed. She usually has a big grin on her face.
Then try talking to the huggy one, or talk to both. This has happened to me before, actually.
The situation with the huggy one is basically the same, only I have more suspiscion of pity with her, we see each other less often, and she's usually busy.

I'm a lot more comfortable around the non-huggy one.
 

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Kogarian said:
Hellion25 said:
I think this is pretty much everytime you're not someone she wants to go out with. After all I can bet she needs you a lot less than you want her, plus she knows you want to do naughty things to her and finds humour in this fact :p
Girls...know about the naughty things?
I think these two posts made my day.
 

Jenny Creed

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Firstly, there is no manual to girls. Anyone who says when she does this, it means that, lies. Even if it's true for 90% of all girls you're an ass if you assume it's true in every case. You'll have to figure them out on individual basis, just like real people!

Secondly, and this is just general information I feel is always relevant, despite popular beliefs it's entirely possible to be friends with girls. Holding a girl in any positive regard doesn't automatically mean you want to have sex with her.
 

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Here's a crazy idea - If she just started talking to you out of the blue, ask her why. It may not be the Mr. Smooth approach, but at least it'll get everything out in the open.

Don't be surprised if her answer is ambiguous. If it is, get a good look at her face to gauge whether she's being truthful or not. I don't know how good you are at reading people, but this is the route I'd take, whether I'm interested in her or not.
 

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I don't really know how to help you in this specific case, but I used to be a loser too. That has changed by working out, thus gaining self confidence, thus acting cooler, looking more manly and finally girls like me, yet I retain my individuality and nerdiness. (however I have the advantage of loving working out, I just had to discover it.)
 

adultswim810

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also how old are you? I'm 15, huge amounts of testosterone made gaining muscle easy.

And pics of you and these girls would help. obviously if theyre beautiful and youre a fat slob it may be pity
 

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I admit it, My gender is messed up on so many levels...and there is nothing I despise more than our womanly head games, or other various overly done, demeanor... granted Im in my late 20's so my input may be alittle outdated in some areas...

that being said, I still have had the unfortunate task of having to learn these things.

First off, I concur that step one is to man up and make your position known... don't be fidgety, edgy, nervous...just stand your ground and make it known that you ARE a male, you ARE stronger than they may think, and wont let pretty eyes or a nice rack completely melt your spine. " which is actually more attractive IMHO"

secondly, if their tone of voice is more..apathetic sounding, like they are trying too hard to play mom, or a therapist, chances are it's a pity thing.

but on the other hand... sometimes it's done for genuine reasons, the way Im reading it makes it sound as though your fairly young and still in school. If that is the case are the girls " of a higher rank" in the cast system of the school " that is A-lst, b-list etc"

I ask this, because even though I always found this whole cast systems of schools to be utter crap, it does show that once and a while some do try and see through that crap and connect with another person, based strictly on the fact that the other person is a good individual, they could very well actually care and hold you dear as a friend, or even potentially trying to hint at more, however cast lines can't be crossed, doing so would be taboo, and they need to..alter how things look.

basically it boils down to getting the answers yourself, in person, regardless of the situations....though I do suggest that when making your stand, don't be too abrasive, one can be firm without being rough, bring it up in a random conversation your having, but don't come across as sounding like a wounded puppy, or like your interrogating a witch hunt.
 

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friendliness as i liv with 3 females ,the wifie , the mooch (the cat) and my daughter i've learned not to take advantage of neediness but to let them open to you ,be a friend but the most important thing is you remembered her birthday that is good
 

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Kogarian said:
Hellion25 said:
I think this is pretty much everytime you're not someone she wants to go out with. After all I can bet she needs you a lot less than you want her, plus she knows you want to do naughty things to her and finds humour in this fact :p
Girls...know about the naughty things?
LOL.. you know to let out a little secret....

Having grown up as the only girl in a large large family of men, and being around them constantly, then being around the girls in school, and work...... Women tend to be more perverted than men by far.. and it only gets worse the older we get... though naturally were conditioned to keep it less public around males...though that goes away with many of us who prefer hanging with the guys...
 

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Kogarian said:
Hellion25 said:
I think this is pretty much everytime you're not someone she wants to go out with. After all I can bet she needs you a lot less than you want her, plus she knows you want to do naughty things to her and finds humour in this fact :p
Girls...know about the naughty things?
Fuck you've been son?


Teenage Angst "I am your nightmares, true scares
That dream when you can't stop from falling
Can't fight, can't run
Can't stop the person you've become."
 

teisjm

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This may seem like a stupid suggestion, but i'm actually quite serious.

Next time you're at a party where she's at as well, don't drink a lot, and then talk to her... people are easier to read when they're drunk, especially when if you're younger and not that used to drinking... if you can do this i think you can get your answer, and then you'll be better off next time you meet her.

At the party, don't get involved in getting her drunk as that would complicate things.
Don't get too drunk yourself or you may end up miss-intepreting what she says, and you're right back where you started.

And before paople say this is a lame suggestion, just think of how much easier it it to hit on someone when you're drunk, or how many times you, or a friend has been telling people stuff they don't normally talk about.
 

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Riyka said:
not to sound totally bitchy...but have you considered not being a paranoid wreck and just being friends and seeing how it goes?

I'll be the first to admit im not a 'normal' girl XD but i don't tend to talk to guys i don't like even if it is just as friends...

given you seem to think your a bit of a loser/loner or at least thats how people see you and she seems to be popular, maybe your paranois is well based....but i lost a lot of potential friends in high school because i convinced myself they were all out to get me...

do you hang out much out of school? if she doesnt want to see you outside of school i wouldn't bother...but consider she might be shy to, i always used to let guys i liked know i liked them by hugging them and no one else, or giving them a kiss good bye or something.

don't write it off as pity, but don't just throw yourself in....

also...the internet...possibly NOT the best place for advice...
last point seconded

but 2bf it's always better to go with girls that share common interests and are already within you friend network. I'm all for going out and meeting new people but it's always best to get with a girl that you know you can get along with
 

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Matronadena said:
...basically it boils down to getting the answers yourself, in person, regardless of the situations....though I do suggest that when making your stand, don't be too abrasive, one can be firm without being rough, bring it up in a random conversation your having, but don't come across as sounding like a wounded puppy, or like your interrogating a witch hunt.
Wow... you make it sound like some sort of kung-fu precision strike. Just tell the guy to be natural.

Being out of high school, it really is hard to predict the ramifications of such a social interaction. If she is higher on the food chain than you... ugh, nevermind. Good luck, kid.
Bulletinmybrain said:
Yeah. Because the lonely new boy would so know where the party is at.
Haha! QFT.