GoldenEye 007 Designer Says Remake Motivated By Money

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Woodsey

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dududf said:
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This is a business. If you aren't being motivated by money in some shape or form, you're doing it wrong.
That's not what he's saying. Valve are in it to make money, but they're also gamers and they actually give a crap. That's why they make a metric-fuck-tonne. Same goes for BioWare - although EA are wise enough to let them do what they want.


As for the remake, they're putting it on the Wii which seems like a big mistake.
 

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I don't know. I've been playing a remake of Goldeneye for a fair while now, and it's free.

It's called Goldeneye: Source. Steam source mod. And it's made by fans of the original. So, uh, Does Not Apply.
 

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the point about this being a business or not is irrelevant really, that's not the point he's making and if you don't get that, look harder.

I can hear the cogs grinding from lack of use.

what he's getting at is that Activision is what EA used to be. You know all those EA Sports titles that had/have no soul and are just one bland mess with almost no redeeming qualities? They make money or they wouldn't exist. Do you buy them? I hope not. I don't, and I'd like to see them die a quick, efficient demise.

They aren't made for the sake of making a good game which would hopefully turn a profit by, oh I don't know, being a good game. They are made for the sake of exploiting idiots everywhere with more money than sense.

I can understand his consternation, ego driven or not.
Indeed, he seems more to be using the "for the money" phrase more as a euphemism for "cash grab." The overall tone gives me the impression that decisions from the top dictated the game's direction not in favor of creativity and making a quality game. Activision is fully aware of how people have been clamoring for a Goldeneye revival and know people will buy it, so whether or not it is bland or amazing is of less concern.

Now that the remake's Bond is Daniel Craig, the whole thing just feels sort of 'tainted.'
Woodsey said:
As for the remake, they're putting it on the Wii which seems like a big mistake.
Wasn't there a problem with Nintendo getting in the way when they were possibly going to make an Xbox Live version? I have no problem with the Wii getting a game, but they just came off as bloody killjoys if I remember correctly.
 
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With the exception of EA Sports, EA hasn't been EA since Activision started being EA more than EA could ever be EA about two years ago (where EA = money grubbing, pumping out uninspired games, etc.).
 

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The Journey said:
the point about this being a business or not is irrelevant really, that's not the point he's making and if you don't get that, look harder.

I can hear the cogs grinding from lack of use.

what he's getting at is that Activision is what EA used to be. You know all those EA Sports titles that had/have no soul and are just one bland mess with almost no redeeming qualities? They make money or they wouldn't exist. Do you buy them? I hope not. I don't, and I'd like to see them die a quick, efficient demise.

They aren't made for the sake of making a good game which would hopefully turn a profit by, oh I don't know, being a good game. They are made for the sake of exploiting idiots everywhere with more money than sense.

I can understand his consternation, ego driven or not.
Indeed, he seems more to be using the "for the money" phrase more as a euphemism for "cash grab." The overall tone gives me the impression that decisions from the top dictated the game's direction not in favor of creativity and making a quality game. Activision is fully aware of how people have been clamoring for a Goldeneye revival and know people will buy it, so whether or not it is bland or amazing is of less concern.

Now that the remake's Bond is Daniel Craig, the whole thing just feels sort of 'tainted.'
Woodsey said:
As for the remake, they're putting it on the Wii which seems like a big mistake.
Wasn't there a problem with Nintendo getting in the way when they were possibly going to make an Xbox Live version? I have no problem with the Wii getting a game, but they just came off as bloody killjoys if I remember correctly.
I'm not sure - I'd heard something about an XBLA version too.

Stuff like this doesn't sell on the Wii though. Most actual gamers that I know who bought one sold it a few months later.
 

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Woodsey said:
I'm not sure - I'd heard something about an XBLA version too.

Stuff like this doesn't sell on the Wii though. Most actual gamers that I know who bought one sold it a few months later.
I don't know how accurate this whole fiasco is, but this is what I heard:
http://www.1up.com/news/goldeneye-xbla-stall
They probably could have made more off of royalties for each XBLA game sold than the sales for the Wii version by itself. :p
 

wildcard9

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Sour grapes, that's what this is. Rare could've been the ones to develop a Golden Eye remake for the Wii and make lots 'o money, but they didn't.

Activision is everybody's favorite whipping boy for good reason. Beating the scapegoat out of sour grapes, however, is low. Rare, I like you guys. I owe a good part of my childhood (Golden Eye, Banjo-Kazooie, Donkey Kong) to you. Unfortunately, however, we've both grown up and you've just turned sour.
 

JaymesFogarty

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No shit. It wasn't like someone just thought it would be nice for the fans to release a remake of GoldenEye. Is anyone here at all surprised?
 

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Name me one game (Not from the Indy market) that isn't made for money.

Honestly, just because Activision is obvious with it's goals instead of sugaring them up, doesn't mean the company is bad.
 

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Here are the facts.

1. Goldeneye 007 isn't even that great of a game. It's just an inferior game for the kids who were too stupid to BUY perfect dark.
2. So we have one talentless hack who played the personality-free hole that is bone instead of a different talentless hack who did the same. GET THE TORCHES AND PITCHFORKS BOYS!
3. Last I heard there's a bundle that comes with a gold-coloured classic controller pro. So stop your rampant retardation. It'll be using a more traditional controller layout.
4. Give activision a chance to ruin the game before you start screaming about how it is ruined. They've made some good games, who knows. Maybe this will be good.
5. Since when did "no real gamers" ever play on the wii? A real gamer would have all three major consoles. (well, Xbox 360 and Wii. Who the fuck even has a PS3?)
6. Storyline? You mouth breathers are actually complaining about the STORYLINE of a FPS game? Sweet tap dancing christ, you're doing it wrong.
7. Companies make games for, you know, money. Because if they didn't they wouldn't be making games anymore. Have you people got no brain-worms?
8. If any system is in trouble as far as sales go, it's the PS3. I honestly don't know a single person who owns one of those.

I've got to go. I'd stay and chat longer but I fear permanent brain damage via ... internet proximity? Sure, we'll go with that.
 

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Because everyone knows the best games are only made by charities. Same goes with films, music and books.
Um... the best films, music, novels, AND games are made by people who have a genuine interest in creating a great piece of work. Obviously money is involved, it's their career for a reason, but there's a fine line between people who make movies because they want the money and any quality in the movie was a total coincidence, and the people who get into the movie business because they want to be able to create great works of art, and it's just a nice bonus that they get paid for it.

Tom Goldman said:
I'm not the type to defend upper management, but the development of just about any game that isn't freeware, especially one coming out of a company like Activision, should be motivated by business at least partially. A game should be fun, but it has to sell enough to make money too. Maybe Hollis is upset that he didn't get a crack at putting together the remake?
His point is that Activision doesn't care if they put-out a crappy remake. They already know that people are going to buy Goldeneye in droves purely because of their ruby-tinted goggles of nostalgia, so why should Activision put any effort (and by effort, I mean money) into making sure that it's done right? This product could be a complete and total flop, and Activision won't care even in the slightest because it's gonna sell anyway. Which makes it ironic that I see so many people use the defense of "who cares as long as they're releasing something they want". Yeah... it'll be funny to watch people choke on those words if the release turns-out to be completely half-assed because the company wasn't given enough time to do anything with it.
 

GiantRedButton

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Blizzard has a nice philosophy about it, they always try to make the gane that they want to play most at the time :D
 

Mr. Gency

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Tom Goldman said:
I don't know if Hollis has something against Activision management.
Doesn't everyone have something against Activision management?

Edit: Why did it not occur to me that the mods mite not like this post until after I posted it?
 

AstylahAthrys

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Well, yeah. This game will be a money magnet driven off of nostalgia fuel. I'm sure it will be at least "good for a Wii game", but I doubt it will be as awesome as the N64 version.
 

Jared

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Well, it was pretty much obvious - They want obvious cash in
 

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Yeah, this game looks like shit to me, I'm sorry. I LOVED Goldeneye 007 (for a time it was my favorite game of all time), but this game doesn't seem to know what it wants to be. It is to similar to be an all-new Bond game, but it's too different to be a remake. And what they changed, frankly, looks terrible. Not looking forward to it.