"Good Samaritan" Killed During Nintendo DS Robbery

[Jegsimmons]

Never bring a bat to a gun fight and NEVER underestimate the stupidity and greed of others.

in b4 gun law explosion flame*

Hey, Guns don't kill people, Nintendo DSs do!

bazing.

but gun law arguments wont work because of the suspects age. so the gun was acquired illegally, so i wouldn't have mattered. so no point in arguing because neither points would be valid.

 

[Jegsimmons]

why where 13-16 yo kids carrying a gun...even better yet how the hell did they get one?

black market more than likely.

this is why i keep a shotgun with ammo around. all these guns getting smuggled in and sold to thugs on the streets makes walking to your mail box a hazard.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

Kill the bastards. Forget their ages.

People like that are a waste of oxygen.

Well, yes. I have to agree that they should be executed.

The point of prison is to remove people who can't/won't function in society, from society. However, killing someone over a $100 game system is...beyond 'can't function'.

Wow...to be honest I was expecting to be blasted with people saying how horrible I am for thinking such a thing and so on and so forth.

I'm quite plesantly surprised.

Well, eh. Most people probably will. I just happen to be of the small 'Life is a privilege that can be revoked' crowd.

Besides, isn't death preferable to rotting in a small prison cell for the rest of your life? (Some might argue that is 'just punishment', but they're just eating up resources. Might as well kill them and be done with it.)

I dunno, a more suitable punishment would be having to live with the knowledge of their failure to value human life as long as they live. He made the decision to take another person's life, why should he get the sweet release that a lot of those people desire? That's not exactly FAIR to the life of the person who was taken, is it?

Provided the kid is you know, mentally sane and realizes what he's done. Course, he probably could commit suicide long before that but eh, I don't think that SOB deserves the escape of death so soon. He needs to sit and rot for a bit so he can 'truly' have enough time for his mind to beat into him what a fucked up little person he is.

Again, provided the kid is sane. If he's some sociopath loony bin needing idiot, then yes, go ahead and give him the death penalty.

Might get some backlash myself for the more cruel and dark way of thinking but I'm just throwing in my two cents, don't take it too seriously folks. Approach this post with the thought that I was kinda taking the 'devil's advocate' perspective, if you will.

That's my point, though. Letting him live would just waste space/resources. In California, it costs $50,000 to take care of one prisoner for one year.

One bullet costs less than $5.

You see which is more cost effective, no?

I'd agree with the above statement except for the fact that people waste astronomical amounts of food. Not to sounds like an tree hugging hippy, but the average North American throws out 610 Lbs worth of food per year.

No use complaining about criminals being a waste of space when law abiding citizens waste literally tons more food and energy.

Green moments aside, yes it sucks that that a person died, but wanting to kill the 4 teenagers is illogical. I guess no one learned anything from the Troy Davis incident.

 

[anthony87]

Kill the bastards. Forget their ages.

People like that are a waste of oxygen.

Well, yes. I have to agree that they should be executed.

The point of prison is to remove people who can't/won't function in society, from society. However, killing someone over a $100 game system is...beyond 'can't function'.

Wow...to be honest I was expecting to be blasted with people saying how horrible I am for thinking such a thing and so on and so forth.

I'm quite plesantly surprised.

If it makes you feel better, I think you're horrible.

Fair enough.

But after saying that, why don't you offer up an idea that could get rid of the little psychopaths for good?

As far as I'm concerned, if you're killing someone for a Nintendo DS at the age of 15 then you're beyond help.

 

[Jegsimmons]

Dear United States,

Stop being fucking mental all the time. It's impossible to take advice from you on morality and values when your laws allow shit like this to happen ALL THE TIME.

??? Does not compute, L.A., along with Chicago, New York, Boston, and DC have the strictest gun control in the US, and in fact much stricter than most European countries.




Also, don't bring a baseball bat to a gunfight. Well, unless you're within 21 feet at the start of the altercation.

gee, you think after the DC gun ban where crime shot up they'd lighten up on the gun laws.
because statistically gun laws open up more violent crime (unfortunately) so they can open fire when ever.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

Never bring a bat to a gun fight and NEVER underestimate the stupidity and greed of others.

in b4 gun law explosion flame*

Hey, Guns don't kill people, Nintendo DSs do!

bazing.

but gun law arguments wont work because of the suspects age. so the gun was acquired illegally, so i wouldn't have mattered. so no point in arguing because neither points would be valid.

You guys have guns in your Wal-Marts in the States. We don't up here in Canada.

These kids could've stolen the gun they used from the back of the loading dock. Guns are too accessible in the States.

Sounds like a valid argument to me.

The suspects' age doesn't matter true, but the fact that guns are extremely accessible in the States still leads to massive problems.

 

[Cid Silverwing]

Kill the bastards. Forget their ages.

People like that are a waste of oxygen.

This.

Was this in the States by any chance?

 

[manic_depressive13]

but gun law arguments wont work because of the suspects age. so the gun was acquired illegally, so i wouldn't have mattered. so no point in arguing because neither points would be valid.

Acquiring a gun in a country where they are illegal is much harder than acquiring one in a country where they are legal. In the former situation you need to consort with the black market, taking massive risks in the process, and in the latter you just grab it out of your parent's bedside drawer.

Also, never bring a baseball bat to a gun fight.

 

[Sougo]

Not picking on gun laws (or lack of) here but WHERE do kids aged 13-16 years old get their hands on guns in the states?

You'd think that people would be more worried about kids with access to guns rather than kids with access to violent games and (sic) DS

 

[ckam]

I don't think that the item would make a difference. Whether it'd be a DS, PSP, Ipad, or a lightsaber. It's just that people are wiling to kill to acquire something is really depressing.

 

[Jadak]

Kill the bastards. Forget their ages.

People like that are a waste of oxygen.

The point of prison is to remove people who can't/won't function in society

That's not the point of prison at all. If it were, than anything short of life sentences wouldn't exist. Sure, it might be the case when you're convicting people to such an extreme that they'll never get out, but that's simply a result of the sensitive types not allowing them to simply be executed instead.

No, the point of prison is to teach a reformation. The hopes that they'll think twice about doing anything wrong again.

Unfortunately, the system is so fucked up it tends to lose track of that. Putting people in jail with no intention of letting them out ever again is a complete waste of resources and as mentioned above, only stems from the unwillingness to kill. But anyways, the point is not to remove. If criminals only need to be removed, the solution is death. The point is to "fix" them, whether or not it works seems to be irrelevant these days.

 

[anthony87]

Kill the bastards. Forget their ages.

People like that are a waste of oxygen.

This.

Was this in the States by any chance?

Aye. Happened in L.A.

And apparently you, myself and anyone else in this thread with the same sentiments are now horrible people. I guess that's good to know.

 

[MonkeyPunch]

...this certainly isn't the first tangentially game-related killing we've ever reported...

I don't see this as a game-related killing in any way. It was about property.

This didn't happen because the item concerned was game related. The DS didn't influence events leading up to the crime. The fact that it was a Nintendo device didn't exacerbate the situation.
It could have been any other item too. Replace the DS with an i-pod and the story becomes a music-related crime?
Had the victim been selling a phone would this have been telecommunications related crime?
Sorry, no.

Kids wanted something and were going to procure it via robbing some one. The fact that the item was a hand-held console is pretty much irrelevant. People will get robbed for anything and people have been mugged for less.

Using literally any story that somehow has the loosest affiliation with games and trying to make it a "videogame crime" wreaks of Kotaku
You guys are better than this.

 

[Rofl-Mayo]

This is why I believe in the death penalty. Kids like these deserve it. A waste of fucking oxygen.

 

[anthony87]

This is why I believe in the death penalty. Kids like these deserve it. A waste of fucking oxygen.

Hear! Hear!

Of course people who think that way are apparently the bad guys. Quite annoying that is.

 

[Sewer Rat]

.... Really? Alright, I'm all for the death penalty here, to be brought about by being pelted by 1st gen DSes until dead. Think stoning, only with DSes. The gun probably cost more then the DS, unless it's some kind of Super DS why the hell would you shoot 2 people, killing one for it!?!

 

[theaceplaya]

However according to Seinfeld, if the Good Samaritan had stood to the side and made sarcastic quips, he would have been thrown into jail.

Love Seinfeld, but hated the Finale.

 

[Dutch 924]

What's even worse is the age of these kids. 13 to 16 years old? They've messed up their lives already and their not even out of secondary school.

*shrug* Well, at least that's another four abismally stupid people of the streets

 

[Sunrider]

Kill the bastards. Forget their ages.

People like that are a waste of oxygen.

Couldn't agree with you more. Why we need to waste tax money on "rehabilitating" sacks of shit like this is beyond me.

This is why I believe in the death penalty. Kids like these deserve it. A waste of fucking oxygen.

Hear! Hear!

Of course people who think that way are apparently the bad guys. Quite annoying that is.

Quoted because agreed.

 

[ViciousTide]

Our Jail system should put them to work, boxing/manufacturing nintendo DS's for the rest of their lives!!!!

Two other options here for teenagers who do crimes like this: 1) A Battle Royal (like the famous Japanesse Movie) to teach them what's worth living for. 2) an Arena (like Spartacus: Blood and Sand) to teach them what's worth fighting for.

Either way is a better option then locking them up, throwing away the key for life, and then paying taxes for the space, food,water, sewerage, and electricity costs for the Kids that should just be killed.

Either way they should have stayed in school, and then they could one day afford a 55" LED TV with Nintendo Wii System, all the friends who are desperate to hand out with you, and be financially independent so you can play games the rest of your life.

Oh well, stupid kids who pull guns and shot out of stupidity.