"Good Samaritan" Killed During Nintendo DS Robbery
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one, no they dont put guns in walmarts like that. they have a seperate system of loading that involves security gaurds.AzrealMaximillion said:
two, they could have still gotten them from across the border which might as well be non existant.
three, even so, the murder rate is dropping and out of all the gun crimes committed it's dwafed by the amount they are used to prevent crime, reported at 2 million times and year but thought to be another 2 million that go unreported so it roughly around 4 million times a year a gun prevents crime or saves lives. so the good outweighs bad.
four, DC had a gun ban and crime shot up 300 percent, gun ban was abolished and crime went down. so yeah, guns are not the problem. fucking criminals that would have them either way are the problem.
um...yes it is easier to acquire one in a country where they are legal.....thats like saying its easier to drive a car when you have a license and a car.manic_depressive13 said:
how ever, because are border with mexico and have cartels and gun runners always smuggleing guns in this country, they would have them even if they were illegal and only law abiding citizens would suffer. like what happend in DC when guns where banned and crime rose 3 times as much.
but for people ignore that 4 million accounts of a gun used to prevent crime or in self defense happens every year. (its 2 million go reported but an estimated 2 million dont go reported so it totals to an estimate of 4 million accounts a year conservatively estimate. So the FBI site tells us.)
and yes, never bring a bat to a gun fight but unfortunately most law abiding gun owners dont carry guns in malls. or post offices, or schools.....which is why massacres tend to happen there alot.....sad....
Prison isn't supposed to be about permanently removing people... it's supposed to be about teaching them a lesson, and hopefully changing the way they live their lives so that when they DO leave it, they'll become functioning members of society.Kopikatsu said:
Unfortunately, locking people way who refuse to change for ten years will do nothing except drain resources on the economy and then release them onto an unsuspecting public. I really fucking wish there was an ACTUAL way to rehabilitate these people. Sometimes I think it'd be great if we'd perfected brainwashing (or as they call it in Starcraft 2, mental resocialization or re-soc) and could at least make them basically decent (if mind controlled) people.
Only in America would the villian in this story be there DS, not the fact that teens can get their hands on guns, or that their parents dont know where the hell they are.
In many jurisdictions, when a death occurs from the use of a weapon that was being used in the process of committing another felony, it's not manslaughter, but murder one.
What a senseless crime. How stupid that the four teenagers even had a gun, and that they brought it with them, and drew it. And how regrettable that the only person with the courage to intervene would pay such a terrible price. We need more people who stand up to bullies, and fewer people who are willing to commit violence over trivialities. I hope they're locked away for a very long time.
What a senseless crime. How stupid that the four teenagers even had a gun, and that they brought it with them, and drew it. And how regrettable that the only person with the courage to intervene would pay such a terrible price. We need more people who stand up to bullies, and fewer people who are willing to commit violence over trivialities. I hope they're locked away for a very long time.
Fox News: "Mario/Kirby addiction lead to a violent robbery, resulting 2 people shot, one of them dead. The murder was a teenager who was obviously a Zelda/Metroid Addict and have records extreme violent behavior gathered from years of playing "mega man".. a game which players will kill their victims and steal their abilities (should have gone with Kirby's "cannibalize victims, and use...")... there is a clear connection between the content of these games, and this bloody act...
WOW... Live > Game console (much less a hand held device... Kirby or not)
WOW... Live > Game console (much less a hand held device... Kirby or not)
Sad truth is that those kids really don't have much of a chance of advancing in normal society. California is a strange state where we have 25% drop out rate in out high school and most of those numbers come from inner city Los Angeles. What makes it worse is that those kids who drop out before finishing high school spend a lot of their time harassing the kids trying to get through school. They will go to the high schools, and local recreational centers and harass kids in some lame attempt to validate their existence.
they drop out in middle or high school and spend their lives being a menace. It is next to impossible for them to get out of the trap they have fallen into. And as a society we appropriate less funding for urban development, public school, and police force than we do for Military weapons research and development so those weapons end up on the black market and our enemies don't have to do any of the hard work AND THEN we have to put more funding towards our weapons development so we can combat our own weapons. Then when something like this happens, people begin to ask questions like, "why aren't these kids in school?" because we closed their school. "how did it come to this?" Because America has gotten so wrapped up in our war with an imaginary enemy. According to every airport I have been at we have been at an orange terrorist attack level since 2001. The sign in front of my local airport doesn't even look orange anymore because that sign has been up for 10 years. We take so much of our money away from building ourselves and put it towards destroying an imaginary threat that we will accomplish nothing. The really sad thing is that the "war on terror" has its own budget separate from the defense budget, and the war on terror budget is about as much as what education and urban development get combined.
Everything the government is doing is so backwards. You create a system in which many kids will not succeed and call it No Child Left Behind. America has not risen in their international ranking in reading, mathematics or science; the plan of NCLB was that we would increase our international standing and 10 years later it didn't work: our ranking went +1 in reading, -6 in Math, -4 in science over the 10 years. And this is a story about 4 kids who got left behind. Their story is not unique. America needs a serious restructuring of everything.
they drop out in middle or high school and spend their lives being a menace. It is next to impossible for them to get out of the trap they have fallen into. And as a society we appropriate less funding for urban development, public school, and police force than we do for Military weapons research and development so those weapons end up on the black market and our enemies don't have to do any of the hard work AND THEN we have to put more funding towards our weapons development so we can combat our own weapons. Then when something like this happens, people begin to ask questions like, "why aren't these kids in school?" because we closed their school. "how did it come to this?" Because America has gotten so wrapped up in our war with an imaginary enemy. According to every airport I have been at we have been at an orange terrorist attack level since 2001. The sign in front of my local airport doesn't even look orange anymore because that sign has been up for 10 years. We take so much of our money away from building ourselves and put it towards destroying an imaginary threat that we will accomplish nothing. The really sad thing is that the "war on terror" has its own budget separate from the defense budget, and the war on terror budget is about as much as what education and urban development get combined.
Everything the government is doing is so backwards. You create a system in which many kids will not succeed and call it No Child Left Behind. America has not risen in their international ranking in reading, mathematics or science; the plan of NCLB was that we would increase our international standing and 10 years later it didn't work: our ranking went +1 in reading, -6 in Math, -4 in science over the 10 years. And this is a story about 4 kids who got left behind. Their story is not unique. America needs a serious restructuring of everything.
how dare you put anarchist on your name and speak of rehabilitation? That is a government funded program that basically says, "We (the government) know how you should live your life and you will abide by our rules or you will remain in prison." How dare you.AnarchistFish said:
Dear Rest of the World,TypeSD said:
There are gun ownership laws and I'd bet good money these kids broke as many of them as possible to obtain that firearm. There's also laws against theft and murder to, in case you didn't know. But, you're right. This is exactly how all Americans act all the time. I'm gonna pull out my 45s and go cap some punks for their lunch money. West side 4 life, yo. clack clack. But I'm glad every other country in the world has no guns or violence, means when me and my home boys start bustin caps in yo asses, we all be chillin, dawg.
Sincerely,
USA
Well OBVIOUSLY that's the problem! There's guns at Wal-mart. Thank you sir. I didn't know Wal-mart was the start of gun violence. I mean, I've seen a number of documentaries and historical pieces about the arms trade and gang violence in the 40s, 50s, all the way up through today, but obviously those are all just fiction.AzrealMaximillion said:
Wal-mart started gun violence. Geeze, if only we had noticed sooner. It's not like there's gun licenses, age restrictions, and checks for gun owners. And there's no such thing as gunsmiths or gun-shops anywhere else in the country, or the world. Well, we must start a campaign to get guns out of Wal-mart because that's where they all come from.
Over 50% of criminals go out and commit another crime, then end up back in jail. I imagine that most people who end up in prison for violent crimes can't be rehabilitated. You can't make somebody change.AnarchistFish said:
In some countries, this is true. In the US, this isn't true. There are no attempts made at rehabilitation, and prisoners are given internet access, TV, high quality food (A family friend went to jail for fraud and he mentioned that his last meal was lobster), and a few other fun things.Jadak said:
Essentially, not only do they make minor if any attempt to rehabilitate prisoners, they give them incentive to GO BACK to prison once they're out.
Interestingly, I remember hearing about a Warden who ran a prison that was little more than a set of tents out in the middle of a desert on the West coast. It had a very small prisoner return rate, probably because they actually didn't want to go back to that hellhole.
That's not what he said at all. He said that guns are so accessible in America, you can buy one practically anywhere. That availability makes it much easier for someone to get their hands on one, illegally or otherwise.Sylveria said:
If a guy comes at you with a baseball bat while you are robbing someone, I suppose you might panic and shoot at him. But what kind of asshole does it take to shoot at a kid that is trying to get away from the fight? I hope whatever sentence they get is doubled for this action alone.Andy Chalk said:
Objectively speaking, feeling sorry for the guy accomplishes nothing.Shark Wrangler said:
Killing the criminal(s) saves resources, space, and possibly someone else's life down the road. (Prisoners have been known to go rape/murder someone(or multiple people) when released from prison)