"Good Samaritan" Killed During Nintendo DS Robbery

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

in b4 gun law explosion flame*


this is tragic..fucking stupid kids, you shoot/kill someone over a DS? let alone one that wasn't even yours?

i swear the stupidity of some people sometimes is ridiculous, and i truly feel sorry for the "good samaritan", obviously walking over with the bat is going to cause the guy with the gun to do something, but walking over without anything probably wouldn't have done much either, and calling the police probably wouldn't have done much for the guy being robbed as he was probably getting smashed on at the moment...

*sigh*

at least the guy did do something, the article says it was in a shopping center, which would of had a good number of people around.

At least someone stood up and tried to help the kid, that's more than what anyone else did.


OT: Fucking waste, all over a DS no less.

I could understand the teenagers trying to rob something more expensive, or something better for that matter, but I guess they wanted to play Legend of Zelda: OoT that badly.

Since it happened in LA, and from what Im able to make of it, using a firearm in a robbery even if it isnt used is a felony, add in guilt by association [which I'm assuming California's GbA laws isn't much different than the rest of the U.S.], the teenagers might be looking at illegal possession of a firearm, deadly use of a firearm, use of a firearm in a crime, manslaughter, robbery with a firearm, and probably four or five more charges that might get tacked on later.


Because they are in their teens, I doubt any of them will get over 10 years, if they do I will be surprised if they don't get parole in 2.

ah yeah i agree totally, just was saying it's one of those "damned if you do, damned if you don't" moments.

even if i had a bat, i really don't know if i would have the brass balls to go after an assailant with a gun like that..i am envious of his courage to do that for a stranger.

and im assuming since it was the one guy, that it was at the corner of an outlet shopping center or something (not that crowded, the occasional person walking in and out to and from their car)

regardless, a tragedy that could have and should have never happened..one good samaritan taken from this earth while 4 shitpiles are still on it.

 

[Quazimofo]

It's a tragedy. Really, who brings a gun to rob a guy of a DS? Kids these days are getting stupider, and I'm only 19.

i know! im 15, and kids my age seem to be getting stupider (besides some friends of mine. they were pretty stupid, but thanks to me and another more mature friend, we are all growing up a good bit. it's a beautiful thing. if only it could happen to more people before.... well, this.)

 

[Slayer_2]

It's a tragedy. Really, who brings a gun to rob a guy of a DS? Kids these days are getting stupider, and I'm only 19.

i know! im 15, and kids my age seem to be getting stupider (besides some friends of mine. they were pretty stupid, but thanks to me and another more mature friend, we are all growing up a good bit. it's a beautiful thing. if only it could happen to more people before.... well, this.)

To be honest, I don't think age has much to do with it, some people are just born stupid, and situations can spiral out of control so fast. A very bad combo.

 

[AxelxGabriel]

I can see why Yahtzee has such a low opinion on humanity.

 

[TheDooD]

Kill the bastards. Forget their ages.

People like that are a waste of oxygen.

Well, yes. I have to agree that they should be executed.

The point of prison is to remove people who can't/won't function in society, from society. However, killing someone over a $100 game system is...beyond 'can't function'.

Wow...to be honest I was expecting to be blasted with people saying how horrible I am for thinking such a thing and so on and so forth.

I'm quite plesantly surprised.

Well, eh. Most people probably will. I just happen to be of the small 'Life is a privilege that can be revoked' crowd.

Besides, isn't death preferable to rotting in a small prison cell for the rest of your life? (Some might argue that is 'just punishment', but they're just eating up resources. Might as well kill them and be done with it.)

I dunno, a more suitable punishment would be having to live with the knowledge of their failure to value human life as long as they live. He made the decision to take another person's life, why should he get the sweet release that a lot of those people desire? That's not exactly FAIR to the life of the person who was taken, is it?

Provided the kid is you know, mentally sane and realizes what he's done. Course, he probably could commit suicide long before that but eh, I don't think that SOB deserves the escape of death so soon. He needs to sit and rot for a bit so he can 'truly' have enough time for his mind to beat into him what a fucked up little person he is.

Again, provided the kid is sane. If he's some sociopath loony bin needing idiot, then yes, go ahead and give him the death penalty.

Might get some backlash myself for the more cruel and dark way of thinking but I'm just throwing in my two cents, don't take it too seriously folks. Approach this post with the thought that I was kinda taking the 'devil's advocate' perspective, if you will.

That's my point, though. Letting him live would just waste space/resources. In California, it costs $50,000 to take care of one prisoner for one year.

One bullet costs less than $5.

You see which is more cost effective, no?

Shit I can't argue with that logic... Take'em behind the shed o' Yeller style.

Yet the NAACP(I have a feeling those involved were black) and those that don't like the death penalty will find some bullshit excuse for'em though.

 

[Quazimofo]

It's a tragedy. Really, who brings a gun to rob a guy of a DS? Kids these days are getting stupider, and I'm only 19.

i know! im 15, and kids my age seem to be getting stupider (besides some friends of mine. they were pretty stupid, but thanks to me and another more mature friend, we are all growing up a good bit. it's a beautiful thing. if only it could happen to more people before.... well, this.)

To be honest, I don't think age has much to do with it, some people are just born stupid, and situations can spiral out of control so fast. A very bad combo.

true, things tend to escalate way too damn fast whenever a weapon is involved. but everyone is born stupid. everything we learn we learn from experience. true we all have our personalities and some traits intrinsic to ourselves, but through teaching we learn good from bad, right from wrong, and if we have evil tendencies, how to suppress them. the parents here failed, perhaps they just could not overcome the peer influence of worse raised children, but this is a failure of society to prevent this.
at the same time however, it is a success and a huge tragedy for society, as one man stood up to a gun with naught but a bat to help another in need, but now he has died before he could spread his good further. hopefully his martyr-like example will inspire a few more, because society could use more people like him. hell, society needs more people like him. and certainly we need fewer of those thieving, murdering little fucks. and yes they are my age, but to me they are still little, to stoop to such a low level for no good damn reason.
*steps off soapbox*

 

[Quazimofo]

Kill the bastards. Forget their ages.

People like that are a waste of oxygen.

Well, yes. I have to agree that they should be executed.

The point of prison is to remove people who can't/won't function in society, from society. However, killing someone over a $100 game system is...beyond 'can't function'.

Wow...to be honest I was expecting to be blasted with people saying how horrible I am for thinking such a thing and so on and so forth.

I'm quite plesantly surprised.

Well, eh. Most people probably will. I just happen to be of the small 'Life is a privilege that can be revoked' crowd.

Besides, isn't death preferable to rotting in a small prison cell for the rest of your life? (Some might argue that is 'just punishment', but they're just eating up resources. Might as well kill them and be done with it.)

I dunno, a more suitable punishment would be having to live with the knowledge of their failure to value human life as long as they live. He made the decision to take another person's life, why should he get the sweet release that a lot of those people desire? That's not exactly FAIR to the life of the person who was taken, is it?

Provided the kid is you know, mentally sane and realizes what he's done. Course, he probably could commit suicide long before that but eh, I don't think that SOB deserves the escape of death so soon. He needs to sit and rot for a bit so he can 'truly' have enough time for his mind to beat into him what a fucked up little person he is.

Again, provided the kid is sane. If he's some sociopath loony bin needing idiot, then yes, go ahead and give him the death penalty.

Might get some backlash myself for the more cruel and dark way of thinking but I'm just throwing in my two cents, don't take it too seriously folks. Approach this post with the thought that I was kinda taking the 'devil's advocate' perspective, if you will.

That's my point, though. Letting him live would just waste space/resources. In California, it costs $50,000 to take care of one prisoner for one year.

One bullet costs less than $5.

You see which is more cost effective, no?

Shit I can't argue with that logic... Take'em behind the shed o' Yeller style.

Yet the NAACP(I have a feeling those involved were black) and those that don't like the death penalty will find some bullshit excuse for'em though.

just got to pitch in here, yes it is likely that since this was in LA, the offenders were likely black, asian, or latino, but its still kind of a dick move to shoot right for black kids as culprits. i do not disagree with anything else you said, but we must check ourselves if we are ever going to give racism the 4x ctitical hit it had coming a long time ago (with a metal insane asylum door to the head. 3d12 damage bitches!)

 

[revjor]

Moral of the story? Mind your own business in L.A.

 

[Raziel_Likes_Souls]

Seriously. These kids can get a gun, but they have to use the gun to get a DS? And a gun is at least 3 times the amount of the DS? What the fuck is going on here?

I'm not going to even pull out gun laws, because that's just retarded. Goddamnit what the fuck

 

[Delsana]

How do kids keep getting these guns which can cost 1,500 and yet can't get a DS?

I'm so confused.

 

[ecoho]

Kill the bastards. Forget their ages.

People like that are a waste of oxygen.

Well, yes. I have to agree that they should be executed.

The point of prison is to remove people who can't/won't function in society, from society. However, killing someone over a $100 game system is...beyond 'can't function'.

Wow...to be honest I was expecting to be blasted with people saying how horrible I am for thinking such a thing and so on and so forth.

I'm quite plesantly surprised.

well there two of us who are with you on that thought. For those who may say were wrong, one of my best friends was shot in his hip by some bastard that killed 3 people and then got out for "good" behavior.(he was then shot and killed by my buddys grandfather) so yeah fuck people like this all four should be tried as adults for murder and since this is cali life without parole.

 

[samsonguy920]

This reminds me of when the PS3 came out, only in short supply. Then there were cases of people getting hurt or killed over altercations over a console purchase. It is so stupid to fight over something that really doesn't have much value.
What really gets me is the probability that those kids will get to play videogames while in the slammer. That is just even more screwed up.

Truly a horrible crime, seems lucky more people were not shot as it was in a shopping centre, raises the question how they got a hold of a gun in the first place.

How did 4 teenage punks manage to get a gun? Seriously? The better question is why did 4 of them manage to come up with ONLY ONE.

Well, it's LA, so there's plenty of places where they could've gotten the gun.

But if I had to guess they probably took it from a parent or something.

There are so many ways it isn't funny. There have been cases of gun crimes committed by a gun that had been thrown in the river or sewer after another crime had been committed. It isn't just a case of a back alley dealing or a parent who doesn't know how to use a gun safe. The police department is supposed to destroy guns involved in crimes after they are needed for court, but many have been guilty of screwing up in some way or another and the gun just ends up back in the street.

 

[TheDooD]

Kill the bastards. Forget their ages.

People like that are a waste of oxygen.

Well, yes. I have to agree that they should be executed.

The point of prison is to remove people who can't/won't function in society, from society. However, killing someone over a $100 game system is...beyond 'can't function'.

Wow...to be honest I was expecting to be blasted with people saying how horrible I am for thinking such a thing and so on and so forth.

I'm quite plesantly surprised.

Well, eh. Most people probably will. I just happen to be of the small 'Life is a privilege that can be revoked' crowd.

Besides, isn't death preferable to rotting in a small prison cell for the rest of your life? (Some might argue that is 'just punishment', but they're just eating up resources. Might as well kill them and be done with it.)

I dunno, a more suitable punishment would be having to live with the knowledge of their failure to value human life as long as they live. He made the decision to take another person's life, why should he get the sweet release that a lot of those people desire? That's not exactly FAIR to the life of the person who was taken, is it?

Provided the kid is you know, mentally sane and realizes what he's done. Course, he probably could commit suicide long before that but eh, I don't think that SOB deserves the escape of death so soon. He needs to sit and rot for a bit so he can 'truly' have enough time for his mind to beat into him what a fucked up little person he is.

Again, provided the kid is sane. If he's some sociopath loony bin needing idiot, then yes, go ahead and give him the death penalty.

Might get some backlash myself for the more cruel and dark way of thinking but I'm just throwing in my two cents, don't take it too seriously folks. Approach this post with the thought that I was kinda taking the 'devil's advocate' perspective, if you will.

That's my point, though. Letting him live would just waste space/resources. In California, it costs $50,000 to take care of one prisoner for one year.

One bullet costs less than $5.

You see which is more cost effective, no?

Shit I can't argue with that logic... Take'em behind the shed o' Yeller style.

Yet the NAACP(I have a feeling those involved were black) and those that don't like the death penalty will find some bullshit excuse for'em though.

just got to pitch in here, yes it is likely that since this was in LA, the offenders were likely black, asian, or latino, but its still kind of a dick move to shoot right for black kids as culprits. i do not disagree with anything else you said, but we must check ourselves if we are ever going to give racism the 4x ctitical hit it had coming a long time ago (with a metal insane asylum door to the head. 3d12 damage bitches!)

I said I had a feeling because I knew some young black people that did some shit like this before.

 

[samsonguy920]

How do kids keep getting these guns which can cost 1,500 and yet can't get a DS?

I'm so confused.

They don't cost that much. You would have to go for antique guns or assault rifles before you hit 4 digits. Either case, a gun one buys on the street still goes for more than a DS. Though I wouldn't put it past a meth-head to sell a gun for only $50 just to get one more hit.
When you deal with kids who feel the need to carry a gun anywhere, logic is already out the window.

 

[Troublesome Lagomorph]

Ah teenagers... you're such a great part of our society.

 

[AlphaEcho]

Sickening, can not wait to see the politicians cry for this.

Movies inspires presidents assassination, no one bats an eye.

Game kills teen, everyone flips out.

 

[Irridium]

Truly a horrible crime, seems lucky more people were not shot as it was in a shopping centre, raises the question how they got a hold of a gun in the first place.

How did 4 teenage punks manage to get a gun? Seriously? The better question is why did 4 of them manage to come up with ONLY ONE.

Well, it's LA, so there's plenty of places where they could've gotten the gun.

But if I had to guess they probably took it from a parent or something.

There are so many ways it isn't funny. There have been cases of gun crimes committed by a gun that had been thrown in the river or sewer after another crime had been committed. It isn't just a case of a back alley dealing or a parent who doesn't know how to use a gun safe. The police department is supposed to destroy guns involved in crimes after they are needed for court, but many have been guilty of screwing up in some way or another and the gun just ends up back in the street.

I wasn't trying to be funny.

There are many ways to get guns, in the way you describe and many more. Especially in LA.

I merely said what I thought was the most likely way he got the gun.

 

[Deathfish15]

Kill the bastards. Forget their ages.

People like that are a waste of oxygen.

Well, yes. I have to agree that they should be executed.

The point of prison is to remove people who can't/won't function in society, from society. However, killing someone over a $100 game system is...beyond 'can't function'.

Wow...to be honest I was expecting to be blasted with people saying how horrible I am for thinking such a thing and so on and so forth.

I'm quite plesantly surprised.

Well, eh. Most people probably will. I just happen to be of the small 'Life is a privilege that can be revoked' crowd.

Besides, isn't death preferable to rotting in a small prison cell for the rest of your life? (Some might argue that is 'just punishment', but they're just eating up resources. Might as well kill them and be done with it.)

I dunno, a more suitable punishment would be having to live with the knowledge of their failure to value human life as long as they live. He made the decision to take another person's life, why should he get the sweet release that a lot of those people desire? That's not exactly FAIR to the life of the person who was taken, is it?

Provided the kid is you know, mentally sane and realizes what he's done. Course, he probably could commit suicide long before that but eh, I don't think that SOB deserves the escape of death so soon. He needs to sit and rot for a bit so he can 'truly' have enough time for his mind to beat into him what a fucked up little person he is.

Again, provided the kid is sane. If he's some sociopath loony bin needing idiot, then yes, go ahead and give him the death penalty.

Might get some backlash myself for the more cruel and dark way of thinking but I'm just throwing in my two cents, don't take it too seriously folks. Approach this post with the thought that I was kinda taking the 'devil's advocate' perspective, if you will.

That's my point, though. Letting him live would just waste space/resources. In California, it costs $50,000 to take care of one prisoner for one year.

One bullet costs less than $5.

You see which is more cost effective, no?

$50,000?!!!!!!!!!!!!, That's more than I EARN annually! How is it a prisoner is getting a cushy warm cot, 3 square full meals, an exercise room, a fully stocked library....screw that!, What's worse is part of MY money goes to paying that anyways as a tax payer.

Lethal injections all around!...or Firing squads!...or just flood the ground of the cells and drop a live-wire into it for mass electrocution, whichever is cheapest.

 

[Mrsoupcup]

You know what this translates as to fox?

DS= cocaine

teens= Brainwashed by GTA or something