Grandma, age 72, to have a baby with her grandson.

[Call Me Arizona]

So... she's the mama... and the great grandmama?
EWWWWWWWWW.
Yes, that's gross.

 

[Dogstile]

Wow.

That is going to be one messed up kid. That's really not fair, the mother will likely die while the kid is in its early to mid teens and will be left to deal with a very.. odd.. dad.

They should really consider what they are doing.

I can't even comment on the whole incest thing.. eww.

What is a fair upbringing exactly? I mean, my mum let me do whatever I want, but the past 5 years of my life have been plagued by social services because they "think" me and my brothers were all brought up wrong, and i've been psychologically assessed constantly.

I still think my upbringing was pretty fair to me, because I found out what the world is like.

This kid, with such a relationship will probably grow up with a more open mind than most other kids because of his parents. Which is a great gift.

Or kill themselves, because, you know, their dad is screwing their great-grandmother, who's also their mother.

Well then, in that case I say the kid needs to man the hell up and realise that its probably the least of his worry's. Especially if the inbreeding rumours are true and he has webbed feet.

 

[Mr Cwtchy]

only in America.
Uh... this is against the law, it's incest, the kid might be born with a redundent heart or lung, it's just sick, both should be kept far far away from each other.

You think two people who love each other should be kept far apart?

That's far more sickening than the thread topic itself.

No it isn't, keeping two people who love each other part is mean, being in a SEXUAL relationship with your grandson is wrong. If this were a thread about a pair of second cousins i wouldn't think the same way, but it isn't, it's about a grandmother and grandson, whos SEXUAL activites are against the law (where I am anyway) because they're too closely related to be married.

You think they can help it?

People don't choose who they fall in love with. This is punishing someone for something they have no control over. Akin to homophobia, in a way.

 

[AMMO Kid]

nasty stuff

 

[DanDeFool]

[SNIP]

Isn't the whole point of a surrogate mother that Grandma Pearl ISN'T CARRYING THE BABY? Ergo, there will be no health issues with either carrying the baby or giving birth.

Also, DONOR EGG. Meaning, UNRELATED BIOLOGICAL PARENTS. Meaning NO DEFECTS. Meaning NORMAL KID. Just seriously confused parents :S

Did any of you lovely people even bother READING the article? Or were you too busy throwing up?

[sub]I don't deal with stupidity well. I did actually read through this and I sound like a b****, but really, READ FIRST COMMENT LAST xo[/sub]

Sorry. I kind of picked up on that after I had finished posting, but I was feeling too lazy to go back and do edits. Still, props for making it abundantly clear to anyone who hadn't realized it was a surrogate mother yet.

 

[elricik]

Also, I'm pretty sure 72 is going to be a world record for oldest mother. Unless she dies in brith.

I am, at the very least, glad they found a surrogate mother/bought a donor egg... but nonetheless, it'll be extremely difficult for the grandmother/mother to get through the nine month term, even more so to give birth, and who knows what (if she survives) after birth.

I seriously doubt that this baby will survive. She's like 70 years old, she can't have a baby, also it has a higher chance of having birth defects because of her age and the fact that its incest.

It is kind of surprising that a woman that old can have a child. Guess that's a lesson for all those old guys to pick up some condoms with their Viagra.

hopefully the child doesn't come out with an extra arm or something.

this should be utterly illegal, arrest teh father and mother, have the baby either aborted

it's incest, the kid might be born with a redundent heart or lung

The kid will not only come out wrong due to it being a result of same family blood...

Just an increased chance of negative genetic traits occuring in the baby

This kid is going to have problems coming out of whatever holes his deformed body will have.

Actually the only reason there are increased health risks is because recessive genetic diseases are more likely to appear in children resulting from incestuous relationships (Basically not likely still, unless your family are carriers of a rare disease). So really there aren't that many health risks with incest (but there definitely are with a 72 year old).

well congrats to them and their tard baby.

I dont care, I just feel sorry for the kid, inbreeding is bad mkay.

Isn't the whole point of a surrogate mother that Grandma Pearl ISN'T CARRYING THE BABY? Ergo, there will be no health issues with either carrying the baby or giving birth.

Also, DONOR EGG. Meaning, UNRELATED BIOLOGICAL PARENTS. Meaning NO DEFECTS. Meaning NORMAL KID. Just seriously confused parents :S

Did any of you lovely people even bother READING the article? Or were you too busy throwing up?

[sub]I don't deal with stupidity well. I did actually read through this and I sound like a b****, but really, READ FIRST COMMENT LAST xo[/sub]

I did read the article, but even after all of this, even if she does not personally carry the baby, the possibility of doing the doner thing is still very dangerous. When you cross XX chromosomes to another XX chromosome, to transfer the egg over, its still a very daunting and physical process. If she can survive it more power to her, but usually women should not be having babies or transferring eggs over the age of 60, after this the body usually weakens a great deal. The risk can also triple if the women carries other medical problems such as diabetes.

 

[blankedboy]

Isn't the whole point of a surrogate mother that Grandma Pearl ISN'T CARRYING THE BABY? Ergo, there will be no health issues with either carrying the baby or giving birth.

Also, DONOR EGG. Meaning, UNRELATED BIOLOGICAL PARENTS. Meaning NO DEFECTS. Meaning NORMAL KID. Just seriously confused parents :S

Did any of you lovely people even bother READING the article? Or were you too busy throwing up?

[sub]I don't deal with stupidity well. I did actually read through this and I sound like a b****, but really, READ FIRST COMMENT LAST xo[/sub]

Oh shit, forgot about that.
Also, I think mass-quoting like that might get you a forum warning or probation, not quite sure...

 

[Nannernade]

Isn't the whole point of a surrogate mother that Grandma Pearl ISN'T CARRYING THE BABY? Ergo, there will be no health issues with either carrying the baby or giving birth.

Also, DONOR EGG. Meaning, UNRELATED BIOLOGICAL PARENTS. Meaning NO DEFECTS. Meaning NORMAL KID. Just seriously confused parents :S

Did any of you lovely people even bother READING the article? Or were you too busy throwing up?

[sub]I don't deal with stupidity well. I did actually read through this and I sound like a b****, but really, READ FIRST COMMENT LAST xo[/sub]

Oh yes, I read the article, I didn't throw up nor go ew, I just went k... weird oh well what's next in society... yeah I seriously didn't care about the topic so what I said was basically a joke mate. =\

 

[Pillypill]

only in America.
Uh... this is against the law, it's incest, the kid might be born with a redundent heart or lung, it's just sick, both should be kept far far away from each other.

You think two people who love each other should be kept far apart?

That's far more sickening than the thread topic itself.

No it isn't, keeping two people who love each other part is mean, being in a SEXUAL relationship with your grandson is wrong. If this were a thread about a pair of second cousins i wouldn't think the same way, but it isn't, it's about a grandmother and grandson, whos SEXUAL activites are against the law (where I am anyway) because they're too closely related to be married.

You think they can help it?

People don't choose who they fall in love with. This is punishing someone for something they have no control over. Akin to homophobia, in a way.

Perhaps, but homosexual sex doesn't cause the birth of mishapen mutants (I know this particular case shouldn't but still...) nor' does it constrict the human gene pool, so the only reason to be homophobic is if you're part of a religion which demands it, or you're covering up something in your own life.

Whereas inbreeding (a very common aspect of incest) leads to higher amounts of congenital birth defects in children, recessive genes become more prominant and no amount of out-breeding will make these problems go away.

So.. since love is a mixture of lust and attachment, keeping the pair apart for a long enough amount of time, would eventually cause their feelings to dissipate.One other thing; Pearl is 72, she won't live to see her child into its late 20's, or maybe even into its late teens, so at age 15 the child will be left with no mother, a father who is also its cousin(?), an aunt who is also a sister and an uncle who is also a brother.

I think it's wonderful that someone has come out to defend free love, but crickey think about what procreation between these two would do to the family tree.

 

[Elle-Jai]

I did read the article, but even after all of this, even if she does not personally carry the baby, the possibility of doing the doner thing is still very dangerous. When you cross XX chromosomes to another XX chromosome, to transfer the egg over, its still a very daunting and physical process. If she can survive it more power to her, but usually women should not be having babies or transferring eggs over the age of 60, after this the body usually weakens a great deal. The risk can also triple if the women carries other medical problems such as diabetes.

Going to repeat until this works:

SURROGATE MOTHER CALLED ROXANNE WHO IS 30 AND UNRELATED.

Also, the ONLY genetic connection anywhere is from Phil (the grandson/father.) Pearl will not be donating any genetics to the egg, carrying the egg, or otherwise contaminating the baby until it's born. By which time it's too late to mess up it's DNA.

 

[Elle-Jai]

Also, I think mass-quoting like that might get you a forum warning or probation, not quite sure...

I figured my chances of getting in trouble were roughly even for either a) mass quoting, then editing it down as intended recipients noticed, or b) mass posting and giving everyone their very own repeat version.

It wouldn't have bugged me quite so much if there were only a few people, but when it's every other post it gets ANNOYING. I've only read the OP once, most of it stuck with me long enough to make sense of it and try to formulate a non EWWWWWW comment...

You will note you are now edited out. Thank you for noticing lol

/high horse

 

[Elle-Jai]

Even though the egg isn't hers, a placenta will still join the baby to her, this can cause stem cells within the childs body to adopt genes similar to her own this could then spread thoughout the body of the child, or be forced out if it isn't forced out then effects similar to normal incest could appear.

Going to repeat until this works:

SURROGATE MOTHER CALLED ROXANNE WHO IS 30 AND UNRELATED WILL CARRY THE BABY, NOT PEARL.

Also, the ONLY genetic connection anywhere is from Phil (the grandson/father.) Pearl will not be donating any genetics to the egg, carrying the egg, or otherwise contaminating the baby until it's born. By which time it's too late to mess up it's DNA.

 

[MercenaryCanary]

So the problem here is...?

 

[Eliam_Dar]

Also EEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!

can't say more than this, really isn't there laws against this? I know that at this point it is not the child's fault, man, how did this happen in the first place?

 

[Mrsoupcup]

You think two people who love each other should be kept far apart?

I really really really really hope your kidding.

 

[Atmos Duality]

I really wish I could say that I'm shocked by this, but I'm not.

It might be a while before something tops the story of these European homosexual cannibals (I am not making this up. It came up my German language class back in 2007. Someone brought it in as part of their "foreign awareness/news" assignment) that put out a request on the internet asking for someone to willingly give themselves up to be and I quote "Slowly and Erotically dismembered then devoured".

Life can be stranger than fiction, indeed.

 

[Raven's Nest]

Oh dude that is just plain wrong...

 

[Elle-Jai]

You think two people who love each other should be kept far apart?

I really really really really hope your kidding.

It was apparently part of a long discussion. I put it in the TLDR basket, but gleaned enough to know there was a valid point in there somewhere.

 

[zombiesinc]

Isn't the whole point of a surrogate mother that Grandma Pearl ISN'T CARRYING THE BABY? Ergo, there will be no health issues with either carrying the baby or giving birth.

Also, DONOR EGG. Meaning, UNRELATED BIOLOGICAL PARENTS. Meaning NO DEFECTS. Meaning NORMAL KID. Just seriously confused parents :S

Did any of you lovely people even bother READING the article? Or were you too busy throwing up?

[sub]I don't deal with stupidity well. I did actually read through this and I sound like a b****, but really, READ FIRST COMMENT LAST xo[/sub]

You're right, I guess my brain didn't compute the surrogate mother part. I just jumped from grandma, baby, to grandson, and forgot about that important point.

 

[Popadomus Ohio]

i can't put videos on in school, so...

(sounbyte of the duelling banjos scene in Deliverance)

urgh, yuk, bleurgh....sorry about that. that couples child will no doubt grow up to be a significant figure in the ranks of the ruling classes.