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AsurasEyes

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Slayer and just heavy metal in general. I'm a massive fan of Disturbed and Metallica and Bon Jovi, but I'm sorry, heavy metal is just unpleasant to listen to. It's got some bitchin' guitar and bass solos, but I cannot stand screaming and shrieking. It pisses me off to no end, Down with the Sickness is one of my favorite songs of all time but I fucking cannot stand the FUCKING RANT.

Also, I'm tired of songs about love. That's why Thrash and Hard Rock kick so much ass in my opinion. They're the independent market of video games, about damn near everything, while pop is just a bunch of clones. Yes, some of those clones are well made and playable, but it doesn't change the fact that it's still a replica of something better.
 

AsurasEyes

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Slayer and just heavy metal in general. I'm a massive fan of Disturbed and Metallica and Bon Jovi, but I'm sorry, heavy metal is just unpleasant to listen to. It's got some bitchin' guitar and bass solos, but I cannot stand screaming and shrieking. It pisses me off to no end, Down with the Sickness is one of my favorite songs of all time but I fucking cannot stand the FUCKING RANT.

Also, I'm tired of songs about love. That's why Thrash and Hard Rock kick so much ass in my opinion. They're the independent market of video games, about damn near everything, while pop is just a bunch of clones. Yes, some of those clones are well made and playable, but it doesn't change the fact that it's still a replica of something better.
 

Nazulu

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trty00 said:
CrunkParty said:
Music threads on non music sites are always a riot. I just want to tussle your collective hair. You scamps!
That's a little unfair, don't you think?
I think he might be right. No one here seems to know how to criticise music. The bands mentioned here are just described as terrible, while others as great, and that's it.

Funnily enough, I reckon I can get most of you to actually enjoy the music you just called terrible. Just need to sit down with me and get into the right mood.
 

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I never got really into The Beatles or The Rolling Stones. I can appreciate why they were so significant, but they never really gripped me as much as they did other people.

I think AC/DC is a great band, but they can definitely become boring after growing up with a dad that'll only listen to classic rock radio.

Also, I can easily see Load being considered one of the worst thrash metal albums of all time, probably because it wasn't a thrash metal album.
 

Belaam

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The Beatles
Grateful Dead
Rush
Elvis
Nirvana

I see several people listing Linkin Park... maybe it's just because unlike the above, they didn't form until after I had graduated high school, but I didn't really know anyone considered them a great band in the first place. It feels like Liam Hemsworth showed up on a list of Great Actors Whose Performances You Don't Get.
 

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I'm not that big a fan of the Beatles, or of Nirvana, but I can understand why lots of people are.

My mother really likes the Beatles. She was a teenager when Beatle-Mania hit the US. She remembers what popular music was like before they were around and how they introduced a bunch of sounds and ideas that are now a standard part of the lexicon of music, popular or otherwise. Backward track masking, backward guitars, sitars in pop songs, crazy album art, controversial lyrics. For people of her generation the music the Beatles were making was some of the most exciting and innovative stuff that they'd ever heard when compared to other contemporary music from the time period.

Personally, the Beatles never did much for me, but that's probably more because by the time I first heard them, all the innovative things that they first did were pretty commonplace in popular music, and, to be honest, I feel a bit of a backlash against them due to all the people from my parents generation going on about how great they are.

But the only real way to 'get' why so may people make a big deal about them is take them in context with what was happening before their time. Try listening to nothing but Motown tunes and late Elvis Presley ballads for a week and then put on 'Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band'. It's radically different. The same could be said for the Sex Pistols or Nirvana or Slayer or Led Zeppelin or Public Enemy.
 

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
OhJohnNo said:
-Metallica
It's like listening to blank white wallpaper. No component of their music accomplishes anything at all. Just can't understand the hype.
That's because Megadeth soaked up all the universes potential for the greatest thrash metal, leaving Metallica sludging around at the back. Seriously, those guys lost it in 1990.
Have you heard Death Magnetic (besides The Day that Never Comes, of course, it was awful)? It's actually one of their best albums, excluding that one song, in my opinion.

OT: I used to really like AC/DC, but then I realized that pretty much all of their songs sound exactly the same. Now I don't.
 

Nazulu

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btpnlsl said:
I'm not that big a fan of the Beatles, or of Nirvana, but I can understand why lots of people are.

My mother really likes the Beatles. She was a teenager when Beatle-Mania hit the US. She remembers what popular music was like before they were around and how they introduced a bunch of sounds and ideas that are now a standard part of the lexicon of music, popular or otherwise. Backward track masking, backward guitars, sitars in pop songs, crazy album art, controversial lyrics. For people of her generation the music the Beatles were making was some of the most exciting and innovative stuff that they'd ever heard when compared to other contemporary music from the time period.

Personally, the Beatles never did much for me, but that's probably more because by the time I first heard them, all the innovative things that they first did were pretty commonplace in popular music, and, to be honest, I feel a bit of a backlash against them due to all the people from my parents generation going on about how great they are.

But the only real way to 'get' why so may people make a big deal about them is take them in context with what was happening before their time. Try listening to nothing but Motown tunes and late Elvis Presley ballads for a week and then put on 'Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band'. It's radically different. The same could be said for the Sex Pistols or Nirvana or Slayer or Led Zeppelin or Public Enemy.
It's fair enough to believe it's mainly nostalgia for their hype (I think that's what you're saying), but you're wrong. These bands do have other strengths, even strengths you don't even hear these days, which kinda makes them a big deal now too.

The Beatles wrote more memorable melodies than any other band, Paul McCartney has an amazing voice and the whole band could harmonize really well (how many bands do that today?) as well as their recordings are more clear than most, they actually experimented unlike so many other pop groups (especially todays pop bands), and because of that, they made some different structures and found unique and tough melody's. Those innovative things they did are definitely not common, I wish it was but it's not.

Same goes for Elvis Presley. I find most of his melody's weak and they're mostly about love, but no one else sings like him and his music is perfect for rock n' roll swinging and dancing. It's not common.

You need to find their strengths, every band has a strength otherwise no one would like them. Well, except certain singers and groups that are more popular for their looks.
 

Twilight_guy

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All of them... I don't understand music or bands. I like some songs and that's about it. I have no interest in studying music.
 

sinsfire

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Weezer... I don't get it man
Jack White... his lyrics hurt my head
Skrillex... aw hell any tween-wave (dubstep)
U2... its the same album, sure the songs get stuck in your head, but do you notice how different lyrics from different songs match up with little to no effort. they made the same album 7 times.

Side note: I am noticing a lot of hate for older bands. Its one thing if you don't like or don't get it. But please don't dismiss something as irrelevant just because you don't like it. (yes I took a shot at U2 but I still sing along when the songs come on the radio, I just hate myself for it afterwards)
 

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Nazulu said:
btpnlsl said:
I'm not that big a fan of the Beatles, or of Nirvana, but I can understand why lots of people are.

My mother really likes the Beatles. She was a teenager when Beatle-Mania hit the US. She remembers what popular music was like before they were around and how they introduced a bunch of sounds and ideas that are now a standard part of the lexicon of music, popular or otherwise. Backward track masking, backward guitars, sitars in pop songs, crazy album art, controversial lyrics. For people of her generation the music the Beatles were making was some of the most exciting and innovative stuff that they'd ever heard when compared to other contemporary music from the time period.

Personally, the Beatles never did much for me, but that's probably more because by the time I first heard them, all the innovative things that they first did were pretty commonplace in popular music, and, to be honest, I feel a bit of a backlash against them due to all the people from my parents generation going on about how great they are.

But the only real way to 'get' why so may people make a big deal about them is take them in context with what was happening before their time. Try listening to nothing but Motown tunes and late Elvis Presley ballads for a week and then put on 'Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band'. It's radically different. The same could be said for the Sex Pistols or Nirvana or Slayer or Led Zeppelin or Public Enemy.
It's fair enough to believe it's mainly nostalgia for their hype (I think that's what you're saying), but you're wrong. These bands do have other strengths, even strengths you don't even hear these days, which kinda makes them a big deal now too.

The Beatles wrote more memorable melodies than any other band, Paul McCartney has an amazing voice and the whole band could harmonize really well (how many bands do that today?) as well as their recordings are more clear than most, they actually experimented unlike so many other pop groups (especially todays pop bands), and because of that, they made some different structures and found unique and tough melody's. Those innovative things they did are definitely not common, I wish it was but it's not.

Same goes for Elvis Presley. I find most of his melody's weak and they're mostly about love, but no one else sings like him and his music is perfect for rock n' roll swinging and dancing. It's not common.

You need to find their strengths, every band has a strength otherwise no one would like them. Well, except certain singers and groups that are more popular for their looks.
Nope. I'm arguing that it's possible to 'get' a band and why they are considered good or innovative by others without necessarily enjoying the band yourself. I think for a lot of other people who are posting they are saying they don't 'get' a band when it just means that they don't enjoy them.

I'm saying that people who experienced bands like the Beatles who have changed the way contemporary music sounds have a different perspective on the music than someone listening to it 50 years after the fact. That's not just hype or nostalgia, it's a perspective based on the context of the music. Their appreciation comes from both an enjoyment of the music and how revolutionary the sound seemed in comparison to the status quo. They tend to say stuff like: 'music was so boring in the 50's/70's/late 80's and then the Beatles/the Sex Pistols/Nirvana came along and made music exciting again.' And because some of these musicians were so influential and the sounds they pioneered have become so adopted by the mainstream, it's impossible to look back 20, 40 or 50 years after and 'get' them without taking in account that context.

However, music taste is subjective, and while I totally 'get' why the Beatles or Elvis are considered great musicians and were revolutionary for all the reasons both you and I sited, I don't want to listen to them because their actual music bores me to tears. I get harmony and I get studio effects and I've heard all their albums because I grew up on them but it's not what I'm looking for. I can 'get' them but I don't have to enjoy their music too.
 

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MetalMagpie said:
Red Hot Chili Peppers and Muse

I just find the music of both those bands really boring. I guess it's just not my thing.
Exactly the same feeling.

And for the same reason, Oasis. I just feel like they're always playing the exact same song.
 

Nazulu

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btpnlsl said:
Nope. I'm arguing that it's possible to 'get' a band and why they are considered good or innovative by others without necessarily enjoying the band yourself. I think for a lot of other people who are posting they are saying they don't 'get' a band when it just means that they don't enjoy them.

I'm saying that people who experienced bands like the Beatles who have changed the way contemporary music sounds have a different perspective on the music than someone listening to it 50 years after the fact. That's not just hype or nostalgia, it's a perspective based on the context of the music. Their appreciation comes from both an enjoyment of the music and how revolutionary the sound seemed in comparison to the status quo. They tend to say stuff like: 'music was so boring in the 50's/70's/late 80's and then the Beatles/the Sex Pistols/Nirvana came along and made music exciting again.' And because some of these musicians were so influential and the sounds they pioneered have become so adopted by the mainstream, it's impossible to look back 20, 40 or 50 years after and 'get' them without taking in account that context.

However, music taste is subjective, and while I totally 'get' why the Beatles or Elvis are considered great musicians and were revolutionary for all the reasons both you and I sited, I don't want to listen to them because their actual music bores me to tears. I get harmony and I get studio effects and I've heard all their albums because I grew up on them but it's not what I'm looking for. I can 'get' them but I don't have to enjoy their music too.
That's true, that context and the hype does confuse people and can make all great experiences underwhelming. Basically, a lot of the time people are just looking for certain things in music, so when a popular band doesn't have that certain piece they need to enjoy it, it just seems over-rated and pointless to them.

Any one can expand their interests though if they really want to, not that I'm saying you should. I find it interesting that you're aware why they are considered great though, that's not very common.
 

Dire Sloth

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That's pretty self-explanatory.

Beatles
I love Eleanor Rigby. The rest is just whatever.
 

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I would enjoy Muse, if it were't for Matt Bellamy's voice. It just ruins EVERY. SONG. So yeah, Muse. And Blink 182. I can appreciate some of their songs but as a band I just don't find them as awesome as their screaming fangirls do.
 

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squidface said:
I would enjoy Muse, if it were't for Matt Bellamy's voice. It just ruins EVERY. SONG. So yeah, Muse. And Blink 182. I can appreciate some of their songs but as a band I just don't find them as awesome as their screaming fangirls do.
Matt Bellamy's voice is actually the reason I love Muse. He puts so much psychotic emotion into every song. Combined with the riffs, it's really intriguing, like listening to the diary of a schizophrenic axe-murderer. I fucking love that kind of thing.

SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Loaded is universally accepted as one of the worst thrash metal albums of all time.

"....And Justice For All" gets very slow in places. It might not be the best place to start. "Kill em all" or "Peace Sells" are.
I think I could tell Loaded was bad from the title of the first song. Nobody good calls their album opener "Ain't My *****". It and the length are why I just can't be arsed to listen to it.

But what gets me about And Justice For All is just how blandit all is. The lead singer's voice, for example - it's not quite growling, but also not quite singing. Is it supposed to convey rage? It doesn't. Same goes for the riffs. Mind you, "One" is definitely good[footnote]Marvel at the interconnectedness of all things, because the band you listed - U2 - also have a song called "One". If you ask me, it's much better, but hey, whaddo I know?[/footnote], so if the other albums have more songs like that...
 

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People were raving about Mumford and Sons and I saw them play at the Brits. They sounded like farmers!
I didn't understand it at all, although them at the Brits was the only time I heard them.
One Direction, but they're not a band so I suppose they don't count.

I could name load more of singers/artists than bands. All the shit they play on the radio constantly and people worshipping a load of manufactured pretty people who wouldn't know the first thing about making music.
 

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Most entries in the main genre and subsequent sub-genres of metal of most kind.