How about defining great as being a game which is designed in such a way as to cause a highly likely and strong, positive experience in playing, but which through some personal quirk, you just can't appreciate all the good points the game obviously has? Games which you have to admit you are an unusual outlier in regards to your enjoyment of the game. Basically, can people admit that there appraisal of other games has its own flaws?pete240 said:also too be honest, how can you think a game is great but not enjoy it? if you don't enjoy it it means it's a bad game or not to your liking making it not a great game. explain?
You piqued my interest.Xanadu84 said:Nonono...in all of those examples, you think the games and there design are flawed, overrated, or just not good. That now what i'm asking. I'm looking for games which you genuinely believe are great. If someone asked, you would tell them that this game is an excellent, top notch, well made, awesome game, but which, by some fluke, you just can't enjoy yourself whikle playing. I'm curious if people can put there personal tastes behind them, and try to appraise a game through a more objective set of criteria.
Fixed it for you.Webb5432 said:Metal Gear SOlid 4. It was amazing, but so linear! MGS4 would have been way better, I think, if it had a more Crysis-style approach. Namely: Here's your target, here's your map, here's a gun, figure it out. But I really hated the ending.
Big Boss comes out and explains everything in about a half-hour. It's a long cutscene and he is supposedly dying from FOXDIE during it, but he would just not shut up! It was the first time I ever wanted a character to die so they would just close their gob.
Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2. Good combat, interesting idea, fascinating story progression, and yet I hate it with every fiber of my being. Maybe I should revisit it, but always the mashing up of Final Fantasy characters with DISNEY characters strikes me as......blasphemous.Xanadu84 said:Good faith effort to be Search Bar approved.
Ive noticed that people naturally express there bias. If they don't like a game, it's always a bad game, if they do, then either it's a big seller or under-appreciated. So I'd like to present a little subversion, to get people to think about critically analyzing games instead of just stating there personal preference: What games do you recognize are great, but just don't enjoy? Have you ever seen a game that you can list nothing but good things about, but you just...can't enjoy yourself?
Personally, I never really enjoyed Street Fighter 4. Wonderful game, great art style, impressive method of combining all the strengths of 2D and 3D graphics, solid, balanced and interesting game play that's accessible to new player without minimizing the skill of experienced player...and every time I played I felt like I was just pressing a button until the other guy fell down. It just never clicked for me, even though I traditionally like many varieties of fighting games.
Also, I never liked Metroid. And frankly, that one I REALLY can't explain. I recognize it as great intellectually, but for some reason, the rest of my brain doesn't.
I have to give the rebuttal that it must be possible, seeing how people are...doing it.Gxas said:You piqued my interest.Xanadu84 said:Nonono...in all of those examples, you think the games and there design are flawed, overrated, or just not good. That now what i'm asking. I'm looking for games which you genuinely believe are great. If someone asked, you would tell them that this game is an excellent, top notch, well made, awesome game, but which, by some fluke, you just can't enjoy yourself whikle playing. I'm curious if people can put there personal tastes behind them, and try to appraise a game through a more objective set of criteria.
I cannot play a Valve game. Any of them. Sure, the Source engine is deemed as good, and everyone is entitled to their opinions, but I cannot see it this way. Yes, I will admit that the Source engine has inspired a lot of games and many of them are hailed as some of the greatest of all time (Which I simply cannot agree with at all).
Here's the deal, you want me to pick a game that I hate but praise it as a revolutionary game that it top of the line. I cannot do this. It doesn't make sense to do this. Now, I can say that the premise of Little Big Planet is a wonderful idea. I cannot, however, say that Little Big Planet deserves praise as best game ever. I will never say that every game should copy its formula, because that would be idiotic. What you are asking me to do is against every fiber of what I believe. You want me to pick a game that I think is perfect, or near perfect, but despise utterly. If something is perfect in someone's mind, they cannot hate it. If they do, then it is not perfect.
You picked Street Fighter IV. But all you did was give a short review of it. You said that the game was very well made, but you didn't have fun playing it. Little Big Planet had pretty art, decent controls, and a unique idea, yet I hated playing it. It was not fun. So, I will say, don't play it. Simple as that.
Maybe I'm missing your point entirely, but, what I'm getting is that you want us to pick a game that we think is perfect but had no fun with. This cannot be done.