Great Game you DON'T like?

[ResiEvalJohn]

I personally hate Sonic the Hedgehog 1 - 3 & Knuckles for the Genesis. When I was a kid, I used to love playing those games at my friends' houses. However, I recently bought the "Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection" on PS3, which has all those games, and I hate them! I can't understand why!

I guess for me, the gameplay is just too repetive and similar - You run around, get some rings, hit a bad guy, lose all your rings, and repeat the same process 5 million times. The levels don't even hold any intrigue or fascination for me.

I find the gameplay to be confusing too - You're supposed to run fast to beat every level and get rings, but if you run too fast, then you run into an offscreen enemy and lose all your rings; it's BullShit. The only way to beat it easily is to memorize the levels and the moments when every enemy will pop out. This is not good gameplay in my opinion.

I understand why these games were supposed to be gods back in the day - Great graphics, fun cartoon animations, replayability to get all the rings & emeralds, but I still hate them.

 

[Dark Knifer]

Fable 2. There is just so little to do and the moral choices are a joke.

 

[Gxas]

Didn't I come across you earlier? Yeah, you spouted some baseless crap there without responding too there as well. Must be you.

Baseless? No. Was it me? Yeah, it was.

Seriously, guaranteeing that you won't respond on a Discussion Forum, when you've just expressed an opinion that is easily contested is a bit like running away from a store with all your goods but saying that you're not going to pay.

I'll do what I want.
But, for you, because I love you, I'll give you my reasoning. Take it or leave it, this is my opinion, not yours. No, it will not change.

Although, in all fairness, you're entitled to think what you will of Valve, but I still want to know why they're overrated and how none of the games they've made are any good just because you don't like them. (I know he didn't say that last part, it's just what he said earlier and I'm intrigued by that)

Valve, in my opinion, is overrated because of how much glory their games get, yet how little they deserve the praise. Yes, Halo is overrated as well, as is the Call of Duty franchise. The reason that I dislike valve so much is the praise that they get. I played TF2, now, I played it on The Orange Box for a short time, and it was so terribly buggy that I was forced to stop and never go back. I played Portal, the only complaint I had was the engine, which I will address soon. I attempted to play Half-life 2 which ended in me turning the game off, frustrated that I got stuck on the smallest objects and spent the half-hour playing it searching for action. Any action at all. Counter Strike? Yes, I've played it, Source engine was the reason I stopped.

Now, I know how you can think that a buggy game is no reason to never play again, especially with patches fixing the bugs are put in place later on, but I simply cannot go back because of how horribly the bugs ruined the gameplay. I'm sorry, but to spawn and instantly die? The entire match? No thank you, I don't care how many patches you put in.

Source Engine: This is one of my main problems, though I'll admit to the fact that I don't have too much of an argument here. The engine feels terribly clunky to me. So much so, that I simply cannot get over it. Yes, there is really no argument here, it is simply how I feel and cannot be swayed from it.

Sure, you might see my opinion as baseless. You may think I'm an idiot because of how I feel about one of your favorite companies. I really could care less. Valve is not this godly being that every PC gamer seems to think it is. They do things wrong just as much as any other company. Their games are not perfect, no one's are. Their games simply do things wrong that is not in my taste. I cannot play on a clunky engine, therefore, I won't. I will not play a game that is severely buggy. Yes, I have quit many games for that reason, and I will continue to do so.

Does that help? If not, please, let me know. I thrive on you knowing why I feel the way I do about certain companies.

 

[malestrithe]

Valkyrie Profile. I think the game is one of the best on the PSone and it had a lot going for it. It had a great story, interesting visuals and a fully fleshed out world. Everyone, the einjerhar, the npcs and the Gods, had fleshed out back stories and I found myself liking them more than the main character. I loved the music so much that I bought the arranged soundtrack. The story was a great example of the genre, compelling and flowing and it never lagged anywhere.

The problem is that I hate the game purely because of the main character. Lenneth was a self righteous ***** that never showed any sort of emotion other than righteous fury. I did not feel sad for her at any point in the game. I played it because of everything else.

Eat that, naysayers. I hate a game even though I praised it.

 

[Octorok]

Does that help? If not, please, let me know. I thrive on you knowing why I feel the way I do about certain companies.

Well, for starters I'm primarily a console gamer and only have Valve related-things on my PC for Steam and TF2.

Well, as you say, it's not like I can sway you from not liking a particular engine. I do feel that you've missed out on some incredible gaming experiences though because of a dislike of the engine and I do hope that you give them another try some day.

As for Team Fortress 2.. as you say, patches have updated the game incredibly, but as for spawning and dieing instantly, it just sounds like a bad game for you.

If you play on the console then you'll find the game smoother but largely unchanged, however the PC version is thriving incredibly, and when it comes to supporting their games, Valve really struck gold on TF2.

Although I do disagree with the fact that Valve do things wrong just like any other company. I'm not saying that they're perfect, or that their games are, but they are different from other companies.

Valve really, genuinely listens to their communities (well, PC communities anyway) and produce a great deal of free content for their users.

They fully support modding communities, and even make some community content official content in the games. They support the modders so much in fact that they have things like GMod, an incredible tool that has produced many hours of fun.

None of the games you speak of are buggy in the slightest now because Valve are at least on the ball about patches. They are also lovable, since they go about their work with an incredible sense of humour and are very happy to be lighthearted, a refreshing approach to game making. They also make some of the most balanced games in the world, in my opinion. They do nothing if not polish their games to a mirror shine, and make some of the finest gaming experiences I can think of. They really do produce some of the most carefully crafted and most well made games in the world. Alas, their main flaw is that they take a bloody age to make anything at all, apart from L4D2 apparently.

But still. Your main problems that exist cannot really be solved by anyone except Valve, since you just don't like the engine. I personally never thought of it as clunky and find it very smooth to use, but hey ho.

Takes all sorts to make a gaming world.

PS

I really could care less.

Please don't say that. It really, really pisses me off when people say that because it is taking an actual phrase and making it make no sense whatsoever.

Think about it. If you could care less then you care now and something will happen to make you care less.

If you couldn't care less then you couldn't care any less than you do now. Remember that for the future, because "I could care less" makes no sense at all.

 

[Stryc9]

Psychonauts, I understand that it tried to be different in sea of Halo clones but the characters just annoyed the piss out of me to the point that I couldn't enjoy the game and I uninstalled it less than an hour in.

Half-Life 1 merely because the opening 20 minute tram ride and boring walk around bit before getting into the action put me off the game, I just couldn't get into it and was bored. Everyone else seemed to like it.

 

[Wintermoot]

any Final Fantasy game I just cant get into any

 

[Slayer_2]

Dragon Age: Origins. Frankly, I'm not a fan of medieval RPG's, but I can't find any interest for the game, and I LOVED Mass Effect.

 

[Speccr]

Bioshock and all the final fantasies

 

[ThePirateMan]

I attempted to play Half-life 2 which ended in me turning the game off, frustrated that I got stuck on the smallest objects and spent the half-hour playing it searching for action. Any action at all.

Alot of other people do complain about the beginning, but I honestly love it just as I love the all the action that comes later on.

Now, I know how you can think that a buggy game is no reason to never play again, especially with patches fixing the bugs are put in place later on, but I simply cannot go back because of how horribly the bugs ruined the gameplay. I'm sorry, but to spawn and instantly die? The entire match? No thank you, I don't care how many patches you put in.

I barely remember any bugs at all from any Valve games and what game are you talking about with this "Spawning and instantly dying" thing?

And part of why people love Valve is that they mostly, if not always, release their dlces and patches for free and most pc gamers (atleast FPS fans, even tho HF was what got me into FPSes in the first place) manage to find their games entertaining, graphicaly beautiful and/or fun in the sense that it puts a smile on your face or even makes you laugh.

 

[Gxas]

First off, before I respond, thank you. You are one of the people here who give me a reason to continue to come back. Instead of just bashing my response to you (even though rereading mine may have come off a tiny bit harsh) you replied in understanding (and proper grammar). Thank you.

Well, as you say, it's not like I can sway you from not liking a particular engine. I do feel that you've missed out on some incredible gaming experiences though because of a dislike of the engine and I do hope that you give them another try some day.

As for Team Fortress 2.. as you say, patches have updated the game incredibly, but as for spawning and dieing instantly, it just sounds like a bad game for you.

I may try HL2 again. I would like to try TF2, but I had such a terrible experience with it that it is so hard for me to think of that game in a good light at all.

None of the games you speak of are buggy in the slightest now because Valve are at least on the ball about patches. They are also lovable, since they go about their work with an incredible sense of humour and are very happy to be lighthearted, a refreshing approach to game making. They also make some of the most balanced games in the world, in my opinion. They do nothing if not polish their games to a mirror shine, and make some of the finest gaming experiences I can think of. They really do produce some of the most carefully crafted and most well made games in the world. Alas, their main flaw is that they take a bloody age to make anything at all, apart from L4D2 apparently.

I realize that they have fixed the problems that I speak of, but the times I played these games are so ingrained as a bad experience in my memory that it is difficult to even pick the game up again. I actually left "The Orange Box" at home this year when I left for school because I knew that it wouldn't get any play time. I suppose I'm basing my hate of an entire company on a few bad experiences, but you really don't understand how bad those experiences were for me.

But still. Your main problems that exist cannot really be solved by anyone except Valve, since you just don't like the engine. I personally never thought of it as clunky and find it very smooth to use, but hey ho.

I honestly could not tell you why I think that it feels clunky. It's just one of those unexplainable things. You know what I mean?

Hey, at least I have reasoning behind my motifs unlike the countless Halo haters.

PS

I really could care less.

Please don't say that. It really, really pisses me off when people say that because it is taking an actual phrase and making it make no sense whatsoever.

Think about it. If you could care less then you care now and something will happen to make you care less.

If you couldn't care less then you couldn't care any less than you do now. Remember that for the future, because "I could care less" makes no sense at all.

You just blew my mind.

Was it good for you?

 

[Gxas]

Alot of other people do complain about the beginning, but I honestly love it just as I love the all the action that comes later on.

I don't. Now, I enjoyed Metal Gear Solid 4, but I simply love the story and could not get enough of it. HL2s beginning was terrible, for me, and I simply don't want to give it another shot right now.

I barely remember any bugs at all from any Valve games and what game are you talking about with this "Spawning and instantly dying" thing?

Really? You don't remember? Because I do, and thats really the only thing that matters in my mind. I couldn't care less about your experience with the game because mine was shit.

The game was TF2, the engineers (whatever the fuck you want to call them) built turrets under our spawn that killed us through the ground.

 

[Thaius]

Resident Evil 4. Great production values: one of my first reactions to it was that it's an incredibly well-made game. But I'm sorry, the inability to move while shooting is detrimental to the gameplay. I don't understand how people could overlook that horrifically outdated and just plain horrible gameplay design.

 

[Hussmann54]

I guess God of War. Any of them. In there own rights they are great games I suppose. But its too many quick time events. Maybe this is being to biased but If skill in a game is about how fast you can hit a series of buttons then I guess its just not for me.

 

[NoNameMcgee]

Dragon Age

 

[Nazulu]

I slowly pushed through Majora's Mask till the final boss fight but I didn't like it because I found many bits and pieces more annoying than fun. However I really liked the giant fish boss, that was awesome.

Same goes for Wind Waker but I lost interest in the game a lot earlier, all the sailing gave me the shits!

Twilight Princess was interesting and I enjoyed the beginning but it suddenly became really easy, I wasn't challenged at all when I started the first temple. Also I find transforming back and forth to be able to kill some enemy's annoying. I know they are trying something a little different than usual but I find it pretty average, nothing really that interesting at all really.

 

[philzibit]

The Half-Life series (just doesn't seem interesting), The Battlefield series (doesn't feel as smooth as other FPS), Mass Effect (not interesting & felt awkward to control at times), and Oblivion (after 7 hours of walking through identical forest and hearing the same lines said over & over again, I lost interest)

 

[Nazulu]

Super smash bros brawl 1 and 2, Okay befor you say o you are such a poser I hated it befor I ever saw Ben Yahtzee.

There's a second Brawl? I though it was the one of the N64, Melee and brawl.

Although, I didn't liked Brawl...

I liked melee, melee was good. It was a god damned cluster fuck but it was good. Brawl just felt like shite.

You shouldn't mention Brawl here. On this thread your saying it's great but you don't like it.