guitar hero VS real guitar

[Gunny Highway]

Here's what I think.
I suck horribly at playing a real guitar (Well, attempting).I play Rock Band, and can do expert guitar. I don't go boasting about it to everyone. Woohoo, I passed the song I was stuck on for days. I think that's fine.
But when people who are playing the game are boasting about being better then real guitarists, or vice-versa, is when I think it's wrong.
Being able to play Guitar Hero/ Rock Band = Skill at gaming.
Being able to play real guitar/instrument = Skill at playing a real instrument.
Simple as that.

 

[gibboss28]

lol i wasnt really thinking at the time but yeah... i see ya point...though keytars do kick some mighty fine ass...and i dont really like GH. ^^

 

[Lerxst]

Guitar Hero is brilliant because it both exposes players to rock music that they might never have otherwise heard and because it can lead to an interest in playing an actual guitar. This is a big reason why Gibson, Fender and other gear manufacturers are attached to Guitar Hero and Rock Band, and why Red Octane and Microsoft sponsored Guitar Player magazine's Guitar Hero 2007 competition.

Guitar players who get all elitist about Guitar Hero and similar games are missing the point. These games aren't competition for the real guitar, and are in many cases a stepping stone to picking up the real instrument.

Not exactly. It simplifies guitar playing to the point where any twit with an once of brain cells thinks they can pick up a guitar and be good at it. The sad part is, the more of these people who exist, the worse future guitarists are going to be.

Hammer downs, pull offs, slides, etc. etc. etc. are never even played in GH. What about finger picking, effects pedals, natural and artificial harmonics? These are all the types of things that separate a good guitarist (like Van Halen) from your bland, talentless types (like Kurt Cobain).

 

[thebobmaster_v1legacy]

I'm pretty good at Guitar Hero. I suck at normal guitar. I will admit that playing Guitar Hero inspired me to play real guitar, but by no means did I think I would instantly be good at it just because I can beat most songs on Expert on Guitar Hero.

 

[cleverlymadeup]

Not exactly. It simplifies guitar playing to the point where any twit with an once of brain cells thinks they can pick up a guitar and be good at it. The sad part is, the more of these people who exist, the worse future guitarists are going to be.

uhhh no playing a real guitar and playing guitar hero are two vastly different things, if you think, you're an idiot

so by you're analogy gran turismo, nascar 2kX, ridge racer, need for speed all simplify driving so much you can get behind the wheel of any car and drive it?

same goes for madden or nba 2kX or nhl 2kX too? you can simply pick up a football, basketball or hockey stick and simply play any of those sports?

yeah right

Hammer downs, pull offs, slides, etc. etc. etc. are never even played in GH. What about finger picking, effects pedals, natural and artificial harmonics? These are all the types of things that separate a good guitarist (like Van Halen) from your bland, talentless types (like Kurt Cobain).

actually they are all used in guitar hero, if you played the tutorial you'd see this, slides aren't because it's kinda hard to do a slide with buttons

and i'm betting you probly never ever played the game, you're just ASSuming everything and don't really know what you're talking about

 

[Anarchemitis]

Coming soon! Orchestra Hero! Play as any of 45 classical instruments with a molded plastic ukelele!
Shred six minute long peices like:
William Tell Overture!
Beethoven's 5th!
Canon Rock III!
Air on the G String!
And many many many many more!

 

[smileyboybob]

I believe that all real guitar players would have to be good at guitar hero. I never really learned how to play guitar but i do know violin and I can pretty much get any song on guitar hero after a few minutes of practice. Your fingers cant be retarded and play guitar hero or a real instrument.

I also feel kind of sad for GH players. I see these nerdy kids on youtube playing that little plastic guitar, playing their hearts out. but then i read the comments and people are like "why dont you learn a real guitar, you loser?" and i feel really mad. I feel like saying "why dont you learn how to not be a dick?"

 

[qbert4ever]

I never had a problem with Guitar Hero, but people who brag that they are good at games annoy me... Especially dumbed down versions of the real thing.

I have a friend that brags like he is God Incarnate every time he beats me at Halo 3. Which is weird, because he beats me every time... It gets annoying quick. He won't play any games that he knows I am good at, just games where he knows he has tons more experience than me and will kick my ass. Mostly it is still fun, but he gets very annoying. People bragging that they are good at Guitar Hero are even worse. Oh, so you can mash five buttons in time with a screen to arbitrarily match music that has nothing to do with what button you push? Good for you. I can't, and don't care if you can. That is all Guitar Hero is, one fucking huge Quick Time Event. Sue me if I don't like it.

So, in other words, you get pissed off when somebody is better then you at something and then do a little shit-talking? Listen mate, if you just don't like a game, that's one thing. But to get pissed off because "shock-horror", there are people better then you at it and like to brag? What the hell is wrong with you? Do you have some sort of inferiority complex or something?

As for this "friend" of yours, if all he does is make you play games that he knows he is better at then you, and then parade around like some viking lord, why do you still hang out with him? Or better yet, tell him "fuck Halo, I want to play x game where I have a chance".

What I find even more fucked up though, is that you chose to ***** about people bragging that they are good at video games on a VIDEO GAME WEBSITE.

a little bragging between friends is normal, but there is a fine line between bragging, and being an asshole. Any one of us here can attest to that. If somebody thinks they are pure Jesus (not sarcastically), then either tell them to shut the hell up, or just walk away. Simple as that.

 

[zen5887]

Let's face it--Guitar Hero is doing the same thing schools have been trying to do for years with those horrible music classes where you play the recorder: get something that makes music into the hands of kids who otherwise would never pick up an instrument, in the hopes that the few of them that have talent are recognized.

Only, this works because kids think it's cool and want to play it because it's a game, not a 'lesson'.

Even if it is an anorexic keytar.

Ugh.. You dont make music by playing guitar hero... there are no notes, chords, scales. Pretty much the only thing musical is rhythm (which is why almost every drummer I know rocks at it)

I have nothing against GH.. Im not that big on it anymore but I dont hate it.. Its a fun party game to play with a bunch of mates but thats all.

I hate it when people compare it to playing a real guitar (and vise versa) because

THEY ARE TWO TOTALY DIFFERENT THINGS

 

[darthzack79]

It really gets my panties up in a bunch when you know that you play a song on real guitar well but as soon as you pick up that Guitar Hero guitar and attempt to play the same song, it's 40x harder...

 

[Lerxst]

Not exactly. It simplifies guitar playing to the point where any twit with an once of brain cells thinks they can pick up a guitar and be good at it. The sad part is, the more of these people who exist, the worse future guitarists are going to be.

uhhh no playing a real guitar and playing guitar hero are two vastly different things, if you think, you're an idiot

so by you're analogy gran turismo, nascar 2kX, ridge racer, need for speed all simplify driving so much you can get behind the wheel of any car and drive it?

same goes for madden or nba 2kX or nhl 2kX too? you can simply pick up a football, basketball or hockey stick and simply play any of those sports?

yeah right

Hammer downs, pull offs, slides, etc. etc. etc. are never even played in GH. What about finger picking, effects pedals, natural and artificial harmonics? These are all the types of things that separate a good guitarist (like Van Halen) from your bland, talentless types (like Kurt Cobain).

actually they are all used in guitar hero, if you played the tutorial you'd see this, slides aren't because it's kinda hard to do a slide with buttons

and i'm betting you probly never ever played the game, you're just ASSuming everything and don't really know what you're talking about

Show me where to mute the strings on that piece of plastic. Show me how I can use 4 of the 5 fingers on my right hand to pick out the notes. Show me how I can hold a pick between two fingers and hammer down with a third to pull off an extremely long, fast solo. Show me where I have to hit with exactly how much force in order to sound a harmonic. Show me where the foot pedals are and when to step on them in order to activate the right sound at the precise moment.

Oh wait... guess what!

If people think GH has it "all" then there's always a chance those same people will find themselves behind the real instrument one day. Look at the trend that's already taken place.

Back in the 60's and 70's you had the Progressive Rock movement take place at the forefront of pop culture. Bands like E.L.O., The Who, Queen, Yes, Rush and Jethro Tull were filling stadiums at concerts.

Skip forward to the 80's and you started having bands like Megadeath, Bon Jovi, Def Leopard and Metallica join the pop-culture lineup.

Skip ahead, again, to the 90's and you started hearing Nirvanna, Stone Temple Pilots and Pearl Jam being played religiously on the radio.

Popular Rock music's been simplified to such an extent now that someone came up with the idea of putting everything you need into a simple piece of plastic that plays a "virtual guitar" on your TV screen.

Hell, in the future, they might as well do away with 17 of the 22 frets and 5 of the 6 strings on a real guitar. After all, no musician is going to have the patience to sit there and try to play all 22 frets with all 6 strings.

 

[zen5887]

Fair enough Mr Cheeze my point was not that clear.

get something that makes music into the hands of kids

"Ugh.. You dont make music by playing guitar hero... there are no notes, chords, scales. Pretty much the only thing musical is rhythm."

This was my original point in reply to your comment.


The rest of my post was a new point all together.. I should of pointed this our more clearly

PS: I can bold capslock anything I want =)

EDIT: Lerxst man I think you should chill.. Guitar and Gutair hero are two totaly diffrent skills that shouldnt be compaired to one anyother.. Like peeling an apple and eating an orange.

 

[calsipher]

I find the whole thing ridiculous. Just because some one can play guitar hero well does not mean they are better then some one who can play guitar and like wise.

They are differnt skills and cant honestly be compared.

People who go on and on about people playing guitar hero are just playing a fisher price kiddies guitar and kinda shooting them selves in the foot.

I'm willing to bet they have there own favuourite genres or games out there be it pro evo or rainbow six.

Surely playing these games means there playing the fisher price equivalent to the real deal.

Its a game and in no way the same as the real thing, sure it deals with similar values and at its core is based around a real situation, sport or item/skill but it is still completely differnt offering different expereiences and teaching new skills.