Akytalusia said:
i don't get it. i don't even see females when i play an mmo, i see the tank, the DD, the healer, ect. and they better all be doin' thier jobs. s'all that matters.
It doesn't work that way. No-one is entirely gender blind, or even sexuality blind. People
absolutely react to people in different ways when they discover something personal about them. What you're talking about is only the case when there is an impersonal relationship; you know nothing about your party. But the difference is (i'm assuming) the awkward people the OP is talking about have discovered that the girls in the guild are actually girls, rather than the avatar of a girl. However, even in contrast to this, they don't have to claim to be a girl in real life for this sort of reaction. If a guy who appears at first to be a girl through their avatar and typing, and then announces they are male, people are going to have vastly altered opinions about him. You, me and the rest of us liberally minded individuals might be able to claim otherwise, but for the vast majority of people, this just isn't the case - no matter how much we try to dress it up. Men think of women differently than other men, and vice versa. This holds doubly true if there are two guys grinding or hanging out, and then one of them announces they are gay when before it was assumed they were straight; the other individual is going to react very awkwardly to that and probably think of the other differently from then on, whether that is right or not.
The point is that you can't just think of individuals as a tabula rasa for the game to project onto. At the end of the day, these are
real people. You can't ignore the fact that your tank is female, or that the guildy you're chatting to is from Russia, or that the guild master you thought was female is actually a guy. In fact, i don't think i'll even say "in an ideal world we'd just think of people as their class roles rather than people", because it's those aspects of people that makes them more human, and we need to be reminded that we are playing with
people, not just the AI. We should embrace the various identities that people become and project, but at the same time, you have to understand that some people may react awkwardly to it. There's nothing you can really do about this, except let them deal with it. Just don't be surprised when people react this way. It's human nature.
OpticalJunction said:
It isn't just an avatar, just like words on a screen aren't just pixels. They represent ideas, concepts, beliefs, and these things really do affect you at a subconscious level.
This, a thousand times. I'm so terribly sick of people who say "it's just pixels, yo".
No. It isn't "just pixels", if there's a female night elf druid, then at the very base level people see that the avatar is female, and that is what they identify with that character. If someone plays a healer, people may assume that player prefers that role because they enjoy responsibility and helping people, or if they play a warrior, they like to be in charge and be a leader. Think that's overthinking it? A considerable number of tanks i have come across have generally considered themselves the leader of the group and find it frustrating and insulting when someone disrespects that position, by pulling a group instead of letting him do it, for example. (Even if the party is more than capable of dealing with it). We do and always will attribute things to avatars. They're not just characters in a game, they're the representations of people's personalities and persons, regardless of how minor on a psychological level it may be.