Hacking/BOTTING on MMOs is morally superior over hacking FPS etc

[Throwitawaynow]

Your right, i need to pick the class that beats that guys class, face it MMOs are not competitive games

FPS games dont give you +1 armor or +1 attack every time you kill 10 people just saying unless its COD but most people just hack the levels anyway or at lest the people i know who play

No sir, you're right. In FPS all guns are equal, and all have an equal chance of doing the same dmg in the same situation. The 1 hit kill sniper will win 50% of the time against the guy on the other side of the map with a pistol.

And the thing is, they kinda do, you all have the same base stats of health or shield depending on the game just like an MMO where you are fighting people of equal level.

 

[Aeonknight]

This seems like more of a stab at MMO's than it does at botting/hacking...
fail.

 

[Bags159]

I haven't read a single post by you OP that I've liked today. This one is no different.

It's stupid to bot / cheat / hack / glitch in any game. I don't think the genre makes any difference. You're not playing the generally accepted way that you're supposed to.

 

[Zaik]

Why bother working? Someone else will do my job for me and I can just get money from the Government!


Same principle dude.

It's not that i disagree, however he is implying just that. It's "work", not "fun".

I'm personally torn on the subject. Botting in some MMO's wrecks entire economies, however botting in...say...Diablo 2, was completely acceptable and I would question the sanity of anyone who didn't bot, to be completely honest.

Hacking in a fps though is pointless. It's not even fun anymore because you're not even playing, you just watch as your aimbot kills everyone with pinpoint headshots while you spin impossibly fast.

This is like saying one turd smells better than another.

Would you rather clean up #2 or #6?

As long as I never, ever have to clean up #7...

Actually, neither, I say we nuke the bastards from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

OP: Maybe it is "less evil", but the same logic could be applied to stealing someone's TV and stealing their car. Sure, one's less evil than the other, but that doesn't mean it isn't wrong.

#7 isn't actually a big deal. You can mop it up. #2 just requires some gloves and a napkin.

#6, either you get lucky and there is a drain in the room with an easily accessible hose, or much more likely you end up sweeping, scraping, mopping, all sorts of nonsense, because it just smears all over the place if you try to take any shortcuts.

 

[ArtanisCreed]

used bots on diablo 2 to level an find gear. but still had fun without them

 

[ionveau]

Your right, i need to pick the class that beats that guys class, face it MMOs are not competitive games

FPS games dont give you +1 armor or +1 attack every time you kill 10 people just saying unless its COD but most people just hack the levels anyway or at lest the people i know who play

No sir, you're right. In FPS all guns are equal, and all have an equal chance of doing the same dmg in the same situation. The 1 hit kill sniper will win 50% of the time against the guy on the other side of the map with a pistol.

And the thing is, they kinda do, you all have the same base stats of health or shield depending on the game just like an MMO where you are fighting people of equal level.

What your saying is that FPS games rely on rock paper scissor style game play while im saying that MMO rely on My number are bigger therefor i win

 

[Aeonknight]

More like FPS's rely on who has the better connection.

 

[Throwitawaynow]

What your saying is that FPS games rely on rock paper scissor style game play while im saying that MMO rely on My number are bigger therefor i win

Really? Cause you said

i need to pick the class that beats that guys class

It's either numbers or picking 1 class automatically defeats another.

 

[ionveau]

More like FPS's rely on who has the better connection.

that is true, i was playing with 50 ping and im like omg why am i so good? then i go into other server 200ping im like aww =(

 

[The Madman]

Why anyone would pay when they're not even going to play a game boggles my mind. If you're really so sick of standard MMO gameplay... well, don't play. Save yourself a couple bucks worth of subscription fees, pick up a new game, have fun!

Guess this is just another thing I "don't get".

 

[veloper]

He's got a valid point.

Aimbots gives you an unfair advantage in a direct test of skill against fellow FPS players and is therfore clearly cheating, while grindbots basicly just let you skip the boring parts of the singleplayer experience within a MMOG.

 

[Aeonknight]

He's got a valid point.

Aimbots gives you an unfair advantage in a direct test of skill against fellow FPS players and is therfore clearly cheating, while grindbots basicly just let you skip the boring parts of the singleplayer experience within a MMOG.

Main problem with his point:

You get into a game with a hacker in a FPS game, you leave the game and find a different one.

You get a botter/RMT/hacker on an MMO server, you're stuck with them for a long time.

 

[Nu-Hir]

He's got a valid point.

Aimbots gives you an unfair advantage in a direct test of skill against fellow FPS players and is therfore clearly cheating, while grindbots basicly just let you skip the boring parts of the singleplayer experience within a MMOG.

Not really. Aimbots give allow you to skip the boring parts of FPS games, such as learning how not to suck. Hacking/Botting is the same no matter how you look at it. You're lessening your own experience with the game. If you're not going to play, why bother starting it up?

 

[ionveau]

He's got a valid point.

Aimbots gives you an unfair advantage in a direct test of skill against fellow FPS players and is therfore clearly cheating, while grindbots basicly just let you skip the boring parts of the singleplayer experience within a MMOG.

Main problem with his point:

You get into a game with a hacker in a FPS game, you leave the game and find a different one.

You get a botter/RMT/hacker on an MMO server, you're stuck with them for a long time.

That is true but your speaking from greed rather then them affecting you, is that botter 1 shooting you every time you spawn? nop the only aspect is that this person is saving his own time while your killing your 9000th boar even though your not enjoying it, overall

Would you get annoyed if i cheated to get to the last level in a single player game? no you wouldn't the only reason your bashing on botters is that your greedy and want people to suffer through the game because you dont know how to get/make bots

 

[veloper]

He's got a valid point.

Aimbots gives you an unfair advantage in a direct test of skill against fellow FPS players and is therfore clearly cheating, while grindbots basicly just let you skip the boring parts of the singleplayer experience within a MMOG.

Main problem with his point:

You get into a game with a hacker in a FPS game, you leave the game and find a different one.

You get a botter/RMT/hacker on an MMO server, you're stuck with them for a long time.

You can simply ignore them; they don't affect your play.
I don't buy the economy argument here in this thread either. Wether you're playing on a server with people with no life outside the game, or against botters, the inflation of everything will always skyrocket.
Since bots are inefficient, those are actually less bad to have on a server, than legitimate grinders.

Some people just want to experience only the high level game and only when their friends are also online. More power to them I say.

 

[veloper]

He's got a valid point.

Aimbots gives you an unfair advantage in a direct test of skill against fellow FPS players and is therfore clearly cheating, while grindbots basicly just let you skip the boring parts of the singleplayer experience within a MMOG.

Not really. Aimbots give allow you to skip the boring parts of FPS games, such as learning how not to suck. Hacking/Botting is the same no matter how you look at it. You're lessening your own experience with the game. If you're not going to play, why bother starting it up?

No, shooting is the game in a FPS, while grinding is only the filler part of a MMOG and not the reason why people want to stick with the game (high level raids with online friends).
That's the difference.

 

[Trippy Turtle]

i agree with the op. botting affects one person. hacking in COD for instance affects everyone in the game. it will never affect you seeing a level 85 going around in WOW because he botted it but it ruins the game having someone aimbot headshot you every five seconds on COD.

 

[Nu-Hir]

No, shooting is the game in a FPS, while grinding is only the filler part of a MMOG and not the reason why people want to stick with the game (high level raids with online friends).
That's the difference.

The last couple of FPS games I've played have more aspects to them than just shooting. Either way, you're skipping a boring part of the game. Your aimbot is allowing you to skip the tedious process of actually getting good at the game. Your grindbot is skipping the tedious process of getting your character to the end of the game. While the steps are different, the outcome is the same. Both players suck at their respective game because they skipped the step that allowed them to learn the game mechanics and how to actually play the game.