Half Life coming out in 2009
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While I, too, hate it when modders pretend that they're actual professional developers (like the BM team is doing), and while I'm sure there's a good amount of ego-whoring going on behind the scenes, there is a good reason to redo everything: Black Mesa is going to work with any Source-powered game, and therefore all of the assets need to be made from scratch. Re-using old music and sound is out of the picture, because the old sound and music is very low-quality by today's standards. Seriously, fire up Half-Life, listen to a couple of the scientists, and tell me that it sounds good by today's standards. It's raspy and scratchy; basically, it's terrible.harhol said:
Nope, you're the only one. Source is great for two reasons: first, it actually looks like the real world instead of a version where everything has been coated in a layer of saran wrap, and second, it fucking runs well on my computer. Valve designed the Source engine to be modular; based on their Steam hardware surveys, they decide what they should add to the engine to keep it looking modern and running well on the average player's computer. As far as I'm concerned, it looks great, and it runs beautifully.jsouth88 said:
They won't port this because it is a mod. Orange Box was a retail game. It wasn't even ported by Valve - it was developed by Valve and ported by EA. Why would anyone spend the money to distribute a free mod on the xbox?Radelaide said:
because its not being developed by Valve... its being made by 'just some dudes' its a MOD or modification meaning that it isn't not done by an official paid team of people and if fact NO ONE is making money nor can ANYONE LEGALLY be making money from Black Mesa. If fact Black Mesa website does not even have any advertisement and they said they can't even put up a donation button.Radelaide said:
I myself doing some side modding and I will have to say because it is fun. Its why asking a person is helping a friend rebuild a car, or work at a soup kitchen. Its because Its something they can create and you get an overwhelming feeling of satisfaction when you see an item that you and several random people who you only know by their alias and their tone in text have finished and created. Well thats my theory, otherwise I would do to their website, log into their forum and ask that question.ANTI-SANTA said:
Also a really full mod such as Black Mesa source is something really, really great to add to a resume.
I doubt it, they have 40 people working on the project many who just want to see it a reality. That would be like 1/3 of Valves staff. If it becomes a hit they might grab one or two guys, but for the most part a lot of the are working on it like they would work on a vintage car for the soul purpose of seeing a dream reality. Lets face it, if they don't do it, no one else will.ANTI-SANTA said:
First of all, modding isn't madness, because the people doing it do get something out of it. They get the satisfaction of making something that is, hopefully, awesome. There are some people who just do it for their resumes, however most do it as a labor of love (with the side effect of having a nice resume). Those who are in it just for the resume, and not anything else generally lack the devotion neccesary to do a full Total Conversion.ANTI-SANTA said:
Also, for all those who haven't understood this yet: This is a modification for Half Life 2. It is not a patch, DLC, or retail game. It is not made by Valve. It is a free download if you own HL2 on PC (used to require Counter Strike Source, but I think that is no longer the case.
Edit: Sorry if this post is now redundant, in the time it took me to type it, someone already replied. By the way, the vintage car analogy is perfect. Except for the fact that the BM:Source team is giving everyone a repaired vintage car. For free.
Really great mod. I hear the modders themselves are kind of a group of elitist pricks, BUT they make a good product.
...Do you even know what a "mod" is? They're doing it either as a hobby or to add to their resume. Surprisingly, there is more than one country in the world that makes video games, and the experience of making a mod like this is valuable for getting a job at any one of them.ANTI-SANTA said:
I don't think the problem here is that people don't understand this after reading the thread, it's that people just aren't reading the thread. Additionally, you're not quite correct here - Black Mesa is going to work with any Valve Source-powered game. You don't need Half-Life 2. You could run it with Team Fortess 2 if you wanted. (Their web site links to this [http://store.steampowered.com/search/?sort_by=Price&sort_order=ASC&category1=998&category2=16] page, which lists all of the games that will be able to run Black Mesa; I can think of two Source games that aren't on it - Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines and Sin Episodes: Emergence - but that's probably because they didn't come with the Source SDK, either, or maybe its just an oversight and they will work after all).Liverandbacon said:
I'd just like to point this out: you don't need Half Life 2, just something that uses the Source engine. Something like CounterStrike: Source should work fine, even if you don't have Half Life 2.Liverandbacon said:
Edit: That'll teach me to not automatically post... dang blues.
Maybe that's what it takes to do something like this. Anyway, as you said, it's the product that matters, not the personallities.TsunamiWombat said:
Well... yes, but that always seems like a bit of a cop-out to meRankao said:
