Halo 4 needs to give some info already.

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
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And do a PC port half a year after release.
Why not just play it on the console? Does it really matter? What matters is the game itself and not what platform it is on.

It should be good and skill based, while not making the game impossible to play unless you play for years to be able to kill anyone.
When I say skill based I mean gun on gun without bullshit like "Slam your hand on the ground and gain immunity for 10 seconds" thrown in. We dont need Halo to go down the road COD followed.

And why not play it on console? Because PC is my preferred platform and has advantages I consider to be greater than a consoles. Sue me.
Well to be fair while immune you pretty much can't do a thing and are a sitting duck. Armor lock did get nerfed to the point where your shields and health don't regenerate while you are armor locking and sticky grenades still stick to you. And call of duty doesn't have invincibility or anything like that (juggernaut suit tells everyone where you are), just giving people who shoot first more shiny rewards that can be very annoying if it can bark.
What I mean is weighing the game down with useless, unnecessary shit. When you start throwing all this damn bullshit in a game it goes a long way to stiffle any competitive aspect the multiplayer may have had. Perfect example? COD. I want you to play one round of MW3, come back here, and say with a straight face that that game is not broken beyond belief.

I know, I know "But its meant to fun, herp derp!"

Well, yes and no. The point of multiplayer FPS is competition. Plus, remember how great the competitive scene in Halo 3 was? With all the tournaments and streams and thrilling matches? I do. And that all disappeared with Reach. I wonder why. Something to think about.

You bought halo 3 presumably and also presumably halo reach which means you presumably have a console, and while you can argue for days about how weak the processors and whatever are, I am sure halo 4 will run fine on the 360 it is meant to be an exclusive for so the argument now reaches full circle where I ask you "does it matter?".
It does matter. You obviously want some reasons, so here you go:

1) I dont care if it "runs fine" on the 360, it looks better and runs 6 times better on my PC.
2) I prefer M&K to a controller when it comes to FPS games.
3) I dont need Microsoft jewing me for money with bullshit gold memberships only to start the fucking game and find out the whole game runs on P2P connections anyway, thus raising the question where my money went.
4) I like my gaming devices to last longer than a year and the 360 has proven beyond all doubt that you cant expect that from it without getting disappointed.
5) The most fun I ever had with Halo was Halo Custom Edition on the PC, with a bunch of servers that were running all kinds of mods. Console = no mods. On PC? Maybe. I could live without.

I bought Halo 3 and enjoyed it despite it being on a platform I have come to despise. I saw the flashing warning signs before Reach's release and decided to borrow it from a friend, trying before buying, and it was shit, so I did not buy it. Some of the playlists were a lot of fun and the forge was great (although that was in Halo 3 too), so thats that.

godofallu said:
SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
oZode said:
SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
And do a PC port half a year after release.
Why not just play it on the console? Does it really matter? What matters is the game itself and not what platform it is on.

It should be good and skill based, while not making the game impossible to play unless you play for years to be able to kill anyone.
When I say skill based I mean gun on gun without bullshit like "Slam your hand on the ground and gain immunity for 10 seconds" thrown in. We dont need Halo to go down the road COD followed.

And why not play it on console? Because PC is my preferred platform and has advantages I consider to be greater than a consoles. Sue me.
Isn't Halo a Xbox360 exclusive, and one of the main reasons people buy 360's? No way it gets a port.
Which is highly unfortunate. I fail to see why MS want to keep it exclusive, since everything else they do indicates they see the xbox as a "family machine" and not a traditional console.
Okay, I am sorry for wasting everyone's time with this pointless off-topic whine fest about who's shiny box is better, I should have stayed on topic and not have escalated this.

Sizzle Montyjing said:
Well, i'm not sure, but my advice would to be try and play some OTHER games to take your mind off of it.
Try some old games, they're always fun to play.

Also... no offence, but the Halo series hasn't exactly been known for it's creativity down the line, you can probably guess about 75% of the features accurately.
I have tried to keep my mind off it, for 6 months. I guess hanging in there is all that I can do.

And Accurate guessing? Heh, so many people thought halo reach was going to follow off the book fall of reach in early speculation stages. Although 343i does certainly seem to show more regard for the expanded universe, which may either be a good or bad thing.
 

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Skin said:
Chief never needed sprint before, why should he start now?
Well... They said they want to make it more ingrained with the canon universe and spartan's can run up to 62 KPH. Or at least Kelly-087 can, but others can get close to that, including the MC.
 

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Chief never needed sprint before, why should he start now?
Well... They said they want to make it more ingrained with the canon universe and spartan's can run up to 62 KPH. Or at least Kelly-087 can, but others can get close to that, including the MC.
If it comes to canon vs gameplay, gameplay has to take the cake. Not to mention, sprint is only a little bit faster, and they would never let us run @ 62 kph.
 

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What annoyed me more than the lack of information was that 343 said that nothing was official until they announce it. I just wish they'd actually fucking announce something. Another teaser trailer, some gameplay details, some concept art. Anything, really.
Well there is sort of hints and such about the storyline (Via, Glasslands, Primordium, and the Terminals in Halo: Anniversary that give a good idea what to expect) and as for concept art they did release this a while back, it's pretty cool.

Thats was pretty cool, and it looks like it might not involve Covenant at all! I wonder what the new enemies will be. It better not just be a bunch of those flying things because that would be lame.
godofallu said:
Isn't Halo a Xbox360 exclusive, and one of the main reasons people buy 360's? No way it gets a port.

Should be skill based, but not too skill based. Great. I don't think the problem with Reach was the abilities, it was the rifle bloom.
It was both. AL didn't help the game, and neither did bloom. Hopefully they learned from Bungie's mistakes and kept it closer to 3.
 

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Thats was pretty cool, and it looks like it might not involve Covenant at all! I wonder what the new enemies will be. It better not just be a bunch of those flying things because that would be lame.
They will most likely be either Forerunner, Precursors or

Some surviving Ancient humans.
 

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Korten12 said:
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Thats was pretty cool, and it looks like it might not involve Covenant at all! I wonder what the new enemies will be. It better not just be a bunch of those flying things because that would be lame.
They will most likely be either Forerunner, Precursors or

Some surviving Ancient humans.
Possibly, but I think forerunners (living ones) will be not as common of the foe. I suspect we may have to deal with a greater variety of sentinels and (hopefully) some hostile wildlife initially, with forerunners being the hostile late game because gameplay wise I can totally see a forerunner fighter as being around a similar difficulty to like, a elite zealot to defeat in game.
 

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Korten12 said:
gumba killer said:
Thats was pretty cool, and it looks like it might not involve Covenant at all! I wonder what the new enemies will be. It better not just be a bunch of those flying things because that would be lame.
They will most likely be either Forerunner, Precursors or

Some surviving Ancient humans.
Interactions between Modern Humans and Ancient Humans would be very interesting. At least to me.
 

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Here's some info: It'll be exactly like Halo 3 + a new gun and... I dunno... space chocobos or something.
 

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3 legged goat said:
Korten12 said:
gumba killer said:
Thats was pretty cool, and it looks like it might not involve Covenant at all! I wonder what the new enemies will be. It better not just be a bunch of those flying things because that would be lame.
They will most likely be either Forerunner, Precursors or

Some surviving Ancient humans.
Interactions between Modern Humans and Ancient Humans would be very interesting. At least to me.
Well currently in the book Primodrium...

The Ancient Human Chakum, appears to be an AI now and has been found by UNSC or ONI.
 

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SycoMantis91 said:
I'll be happy if they announce a cancellation to be honest.
Why is that?

Sylveria said:
Here's some info: It'll be exactly like Halo 3 + a new gun and... I dunno... space chocobos or something.
Actually they announced there will be a bit of new guns and forerunner guns and vechiles.

VoidWanderer said:
What info is needed? It's the same damn game that was supposed to have ended with the first trilogy (There were ad campaigns saying that the fight would be finished with Halo 3). You will still play the same guy, fighting the same bad guys in a game that is beginning to suffer from 'Indigo Prophecy Syndrome'.

The only 'new' things they could tell people about would be the multiplayer. And before I get very ranty, I am going to stop writing now.
He did finish the fight. When one war ends, doesn't mean all wars end.

Also Halo 3 ended with a cliff hanger, and Halo 4 is following up to that.
 

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
oZode said:
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All I need to know is if sprint and The Flood are in it. If either of those things are in the game, I will not be making a $60 purchase.
So just because a AA you don't like and a annoying enemy type is in the game the deal is broken?

I guess I should take halo reach back to game stop and get rid of it because the plasma cannon is underpowered.

See how stupid saying stuff like that is?

And besides, sprint would be very useful with all the giant forerunner structures and all.
Halo needs sprint as much as it needs iron sights. It just slowed down the gameplay and was one of the few big reasons that caused the downfall of competitive (and even casual) Halo.

Having sprint decreases the skill gap as it effects jumping and all other movement speeds (strafing, ehem). It is not necessary, and should NOT be in H4.
So just because I can go twice the speed for ten or so seconds the competitive and even 'casual' atmosphere is broken?

You can't shoot while sprinting nor strafe. Sprint at someone with an assault rifle and you would get ripped to shreds (if you are dumb enough to sprint while being shot at, that is). Sprint makes the game go faster and gets you to the fight sooner from what I have seen. If you try to sprint away, someone can always get out a precision weapon and kill you in one headshot (which is easy to get with the pistol).

I think it wouldn't effect halo 4 much, and besides by then there will be some other thing to complain about! Like that new, stupid armor ability that breaks the game! Or that new overpowered forerunner weapon that may or may not be in the game! Or perhaps the new foes have some irritating flying foe that pisses you off to no end? Maybe the story has a massive, gaping plot hole?

Who knows?
Sprint is fine, I just hope they drop the jetpack and shield nonsense. Twas absolutely terrible in Reach. Lets hope Halo 4 goes back to Halo 3 style multiplayer.
Or go forward to halo 4 style multiplayer.
They better make it good and skill based then.

And do a PC port half a year after release.
If they do a PC port I would like it be released the same time as the console version is released. Sadly, I doubt it will be on the PC.
 

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Korten12 said:
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The game will need aiming down sights, new guns and an assault rifle that isn't an F2000. Fuck dat ugly gun shit!
What? Hell no. It doesn't need iron sights, it works like it is.
Yeah... you're probably right...
 

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Korten12 said:
He did finish the fight. When one war ends, doesn't mean all wars end.

Also Halo 3 ended with a cliff hanger, and Halo 4 is following up to that.
What other war? Last time I checked the war between Master Chief and the Covenants was put on hold due to the Flood.
 

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VoidWanderer said:
Korten12 said:
He did finish the fight. When one war ends, doesn't mean all wars end.

Also Halo 3 ended with a cliff hanger, and Halo 4 is following up to that.
What other war? Last time I checked the war between Master Chief and the Covenants was put on hold due to the Flood.
and then you kill the covenant leaders and destroy the flood. fight finished.
 

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cthulhumythos said:
VoidWanderer said:
Korten12 said:
He did finish the fight. When one war ends, doesn't mean all wars end.

Also Halo 3 ended with a cliff hanger, and Halo 4 is following up to that.
What other war? Last time I checked the war between Master Chief and the Covenants was put on hold due to the Flood.
and then you kill the covenant leaders and destroy the flood. fight finished.
Was that at the end of Halo 3? I never got around to finishing that game as I found it boring.
 

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VoidWanderer said:
cthulhumythos said:
VoidWanderer said:
Korten12 said:
He did finish the fight. When one war ends, doesn't mean all wars end.

Also Halo 3 ended with a cliff hanger, and Halo 4 is following up to that.
What other war? Last time I checked the war between Master Chief and the Covenants was put on hold due to the Flood.
and then you kill the covenant leaders and destroy the flood. fight finished.
Was that at the end of Halo 3? I never got around to finishing that game as I found it boring.
well, there's your problem! the last time you checked was before the game ended!
 

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If a game about interstellar war is boring, I think the problem is not just with me. I enjoyed the original Halo, I found Halo 2 quite fun, but the storyline was going the way of "Indigo Prophecy Syndrome" and I found it really hard to care about investigating the crashed ship in the city.
 

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VoidWanderer said:
If a game about interstellar war is boring, I think the problem is not just with me. I enjoyed the original Halo, I found Halo 2 quite fun, but the storyline was going the way of "Indigo Prophecy Syndrome" and I found it really hard to care about investigating the crashed ship in the city.
i didn't say the problem was that you found it boring, that's your business. what i was saying was that the reason why you couldn't recollect the ending to halo 3 was that you never saw the ending to halo 3!