Halo Killer Sentenced to Life

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Jitterbug

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It's a shame for human life to be wasted over a game. I can't help but feel that his parents are to blame here. This child doesn't seem to have any grasp on reality, and who is to blame for that? I'm not saying that his mother deserved to die, but parents can defiantly learn from cases such as this.

Some kids need help. Humans aren't born with a knowledge over everything in this world. Maybe because of this needless violence parents will take notice and actually talk to their children over the differences between the real world and video games. I bet if someone sat down and reasoned with this kid instead of banning him from playing it the entire conflict could have been resolved.

Shields don't automatically recharge in prison showers. I'm sure nothing he has experienced will prepare him for that. Poor ignorant kid.
 

hazuka3377

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I can see the logical link between video games and the shooting.
Halo 3: shooting aliens with a gun
Kid: shooting people with a gun

Thing is, although having a hammer makes everything look like a nail, no-one blames hammers for murders commited by bashing people with them...

Frankly, without a detailed report on How it came to this, We can make no judgements.
Don't license people to have guns, license them to have children.
 

Wargamer

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Urgh, it is an insult to every intelligent Human alive that the Judge honestly bought that "I thought games were real!" bullshit this twisted fucker spewed.

He didn't know his parents would be dead forever? The fuck he didn't!
 

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I keep seeing more and more of this stuff and it really upsets me cause even I a gamer am starting to think that video games can be dangerous. I hope there is never any kind of government control over video games.Of course we have the First Amendment but,if this keeps going on it won't matter that they are a creative medium that is a expressive art form,it's also a dangerous and addictive drug to those who listen to faux new's crap.(which I'm sure they will try to pull something along those lines sooner or later if they haven't already.)But honestly this is probably the 8th or 9th death due to video games I've heard of and that's only the ones I know about there's probably way more....
 

TheFacelessOne

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"unlocked lock box"

Why don't you just put it in a ziplock bag. Don't want to make it to hard for someone to get a gun.

And this kid has one hell of a problem. Don't play the game. Its not worth killing your parents.
 

TheFacelessOne

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Dottie said:
I keep seeing more and more of this stuff and it really upsets me cause even I a gamer am starting to think that video games can be dangerous. I hope there is never any kind of government control over video games.Of course we have the First Amendment but,if this keeps going on it won't matter that they are a creative medium that is a expressive art form,it's also a dangerous and addictive drug to those who listen to faux new's crap.(which I'm sure they will try to pull something along those lines sooner or later if they haven't already.)But honestly this is probably the 8th or 9th death due to video games I've heard of and that's only the ones I know about there's probably way more....
If they ever try to place a ban, it probably won't work. Do you know how many people will rise and say "hell no!". Besides, video games are cleaning the gene pool.
 

The_Toony

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xmetatr0nx said:
bue519 said:
I'm not sure what treatment you could do for a sociopath. I would be that he tortures small animals, and wet his bed to a late age. I would say he's better off behind bars, I wouldn't want to find out what he does next after someone sets him off by doing some miniscule action.
Well youre painting him as completely hopeless. He is still young and has a chance for rehabilitation. I dont think people with mental disorders should just be locked up, this isnt the turn of the century we have modern psychiatric methods for people like this. Then again i am on my way to becoming a psychiatrist myself so i might be a bit biased.
People who comment that those with mental disorders (even highly serious ones) should be locked up instantly make me weep for the world. It saddens me that someone would want to lock someone else up for a disorder or mental illness they had no choice in getting. I hope one day society has a more humane approach to the mentally ill.

But atleast it is better than turn of the century psychiatry.
 

TraumaHound

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While the judge had something to say regarding videogame violence I applaud the fact that it didn't seem to cloud his judgement in the case. It was murder and attempted murder committed by someone who felt this was the retaliatory solution to his problem.

While I can sympathize with the father who is surely in a lot of emotional pain here I'd rather my child in prison than out in a society where he may snap again should something upset him.

I suppose now, though, we should wait to see what sort of anti-violence in videogames sentiment this stirs up...you just know some senator's going to drag out the soapbox for this one.
 
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Aries_Split said:
Did the kid drink orange juice?

Yes.

And he killed his parents?

Yes.

HOLY FUCK ORANGE JUICE CAUSED HIM TO KILL HIS PARENTS!!!!

Grow up.


Come on people.
Simple Equation
Blameandhate=X(V^2)
Where X=restricted thingy/aggravate maker, and V=level of violence.
 

cowbell40

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Alleged_Alec said:
black lincon said:
It had to do with addiction. From What I can gather the kid was either plain out psycho or was addicted to halo, and if it was the latter his parents taking it away would trigger an event like this. that's not saying it was the games fault, if he had been addicted to a movie or a TV show and his parents took it away the same thing could have happened.
Bollocks to that, I say. People don't draw a gun on someone unless they're already fucked up. His 'addiction' had nothing to do with this.
Yeah, I kinda have to agree. It takes a seriously fucked up individual to not only draw a gun on his own parents, but to attempt to kill both of them.
 

Thanatos5150

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The kid was a spoiled brat.
The kid knew where the firearm was kept.
The kid knew the firearm was left unlocked.

The gun-owner left the firearm unlocked.
The gun-owner did not adquetly hide the weapon.
The gun-owner did not adequetly teach other members of the household in weapon saftey.

Attempting to shift the blame on to video games, as the lawyer did, was absolutely stupid.

The Judge rejecting that it was "the game's fault" was smart.
The Judge making the comment...
Why, treasonous omnipotent immortals, why?
 

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Xvito said:
squid5580 said:
@Xvito (sorry I didn't want to quote that wall o text and I can't get the hang of editing quotes without screwing them up)

I don't think you are wrong. Not in the least (with the exception of guns being great tools for hunting but a single fire 22 cal would do the job and no one needs a cannon to take down a deer). I just think you can't expect the world to create a big fire and everyone throws in thier guns. Would it be nice? Yes. Just unfortunately unrealistic in this day and age. Maybe one day all the resources needed to make gunpowder will dry up.
Yes, but we have to start somewhere, be it by throwing some guns into a tiny bonfire or make it illegal to make/sell guns (at least some of them)...
EnglishMuffin said:
Xvito said:
EnglishMuffin said:
Xvito said:
Also, gun control is good for you.
Just like the government sticking a big black dildo up your ass?

It's good for your anus!
Um... I... Really?

So... Did you have an opinion or did you just want to harass me?
Do I have to bash your fucking brains in for you to understand that I disagree with your stance on gun control?
Woah! Dude, you need to chill out.

Also, you probably don't need to bash my brains out, you could instead start with STATING YOUR OPINION... Yes.

I just can't help but think of The Simpsons Treehouse of Terror. Silly I know but in one the aliens convince all the Springfield people to get rid of thier weapons. Then they attack.

You see where I do agree with you about the problem, it si the solution that is truly the problem. All it would take is a few people to hold back their "cannons" and then they have the power. It would be nice if we could rely on the honor system for that. The only realistic thing we can do is not support guns, not own guns and hope to teach our children he same thing. Meanwhile developing a gunpowder eating bacteria in our basements.
 

Thanatos5150

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This is the way I see gun control:
The technology is out there, populating the world. It's a fairly common and cheap technology.
No matter how strict your gun laws get, there is always going to be people out there with illgal firearms.
Outlawing firearms entirly ensures that the only people with guns are criminals.
By allowing legally-owned firearms, you allow a law-abiding citizen some defence against the criminals with a gun.

Let's face it, guns are scary, they're a huge deterrent whether it's to U-squared-Cs or to Johnny McMugger, you pull a firearm, people listen.

Situations like this in part stem from a society of instant gratification, and in part stem from proper weapons saftey and respect of deadly force not being drilled into every citizen's head like it's the bloody National Anthem.
People in general fear guns, and feel they give them power, like an artifical testosterone-booster or whatever. They don't respect the weapon.

This is the root of the problem. Instead of stricter gun control laws, we need stricter gun education laws.
 

Jandau

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Oh they are going to love this kid in the jail. Love him looooong time...
 

GuerrillaClock

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And lawyers wonder why everyone hates them. Seriously, attempting to let a murderer (mentally ill or not, that's what he is) get off light by painting something enjoyed by millions as some sort of mindfucking device on the back of absolutely no scientific evidence is...

actually, that's kind of what I expect from lawyers. It's a profession where it pays to have no conscience.
 

Mackinator

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EMFCRACKSHOT said:
This is just some retarded attempt to shift the blame on videogames. He must have been mentally disturbed to have killed his parents over something like this.
The way i see it, its just an attempt to shift the blame from inadequate gun control laws. The americans can't lose their guns now can they. Lets blame all the violence on games instead of giving out guns like candy.
So very, very, very valid.
 

Xvito

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squid5580 said:
Xvito said:
squid5580 said:
@Xvito (sorry I didn't want to quote that wall o text and I can't get the hang of editing quotes without screwing them up)

I don't think you are wrong. Not in the least (with the exception of guns being great tools for hunting but a single fire 22 cal would do the job and no one needs a cannon to take down a deer). I just think you can't expect the world to create a big fire and everyone throws in thier guns. Would it be nice? Yes. Just unfortunately unrealistic in this day and age. Maybe one day all the resources needed to make gunpowder will dry up.
Yes, but we have to start somewhere, be it by throwing some guns into a tiny bonfire or make it illegal to make/sell guns (at least some of them)...
EnglishMuffin said:
Xvito said:
EnglishMuffin said:
Xvito said:
Also, gun control is good for you.
Just like the government sticking a big black dildo up your ass?

It's good for your anus!
Um... I... Really?

So... Did you have an opinion or did you just want to harass me?
Do I have to bash your fucking brains in for you to understand that I disagree with your stance on gun control?
Woah! Dude, you need to chill out.

Also, you probably don't need to bash my brains out, you could instead start with STATING YOUR OPINION... Yes.

I just can't help but think of The Simpsons Treehouse of Terror. Silly I know but in one the aliens convince all the Springfield people to get rid of thier weapons. Then they attack.

You see where I do agree with you about the problem, it si the solution that is truly the problem. All it would take is a few people to hold back their "cannons" and then they have the power. It would be nice if we could rely on the honor system for that. The only realistic thing we can do is not support guns, not own guns and hope to teach our children he same thing. Meanwhile developing a gunpowder eating bacteria in our basements.
You're way behind... I've been developing missile-eating bacteria in my basement for years.
 

PurpleLeafRave

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scnj said:
NoMoreSanity said:
But why was the lockbox unlocked, and the kid have the experience with a gun to load it with ammo and fire it?
He obviously learned from his short time playing Halo 3.
The funny thing is he probably never got to play it cause they caught him as he tried to sneak it into the house, so how could they blame the video game? If he was sneaking anything else in, like a dvd, nobody would give a damn.
 

paragon1

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This is a very sad story.

It's pretty obvious that the judge thinks violent media can cause violent behavior, but at least he's smart enough to know that he can't set a legitimate precedent based on this case.

And for all you people who think the father should have kept that lockbox locked, I agree. For the people who seem to think that guns are to blame, I offer this reminder. A gun is an inanimate object without someone using it, and as such it is no different from any other inanimate object (like, ohhh, i don't know, a videogame for example?) It takes someone with inadequate knowledge of what it is capable of ( a very small child) or someone with the intent to murder to make it a lethal weapon. You don't need a gun to kill someone. Have people stopped killing each other in Japan or the UK? No? Didn't think so.

So just to piss some of you gun control activists off, I'll leave you with an NRA slogan. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.