Halo Reach Beta - General Discussion Thread

[Armored Prayer]

Hey, when are the new game modes and maps coming out?

 

[Irridium]

I haven't played the game yet, but do the Elites get to use the same item powers/abilities that the Spartans have?

Spartans
- Jetpack
- Sprint
- Armour lock

Elites
- Dodge

Both
- Active camo


Im pretty sure thats it, didnt get to play elites that much, only in two games where we just got restricted to the dodge perk. Im assuming elites will be able to use camo once the invasion playlist comes out.

Elites can also use jet-packs.

I've heard several rumors that elites can use jet-packs, but nobody seems to have any proof. I've been looking around, and the best evidence I can find is that Bungie didn't specifically say that they couldn't. Can anyone show me where the evidence for this is?

Well in Halo 2 you fought Jet-pack elites... And in Halo 3 they had "flight" armor permutations which the jet-pack elites wear. Plus in some of the videos for the game it shows elites have the choice to spawn with a jet-pack. 1 sec...

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/100239-Behold-35-Minutes-of-Jetpack-tastic-Halo-Reach-Multiplayer-Footage

At about 26 seconds into the video you see the loadout screen for the Elites, and the jet-pack is one of the Armor Abilities.

 

[TheTaco007]

I haven't played the game yet, but do the Elites get to use the same item powers/abilities that the Spartans have?

Spartans
- Jetpack
- Sprint
- Armour lock

Elites
- Dodge

Both
- Active camo


Im pretty sure thats it, didnt get to play elites that much, only in two games where we just got restricted to the dodge perk. Im assuming elites will be able to use camo once the invasion playlist comes out.

Elites can also use jet-packs.

I've heard several rumors that elites can use jet-packs, but nobody seems to have any proof. I've been looking around, and the best evidence I can find is that Bungie didn't specifically say that they couldn't. Can anyone show me where the evidence for this is?

Well in Halo 2 you fought Jet-pack elites... And in Halo 3 they had "flight" armor permutations which the jet-pack elites wear. Plus in some of the videos for the game it shows elites have the choice to spawn with a jet-pack. 1 sec...

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/100239-Behold-35-Minutes-of-Jetpack-tastic-Halo-Reach-Multiplayer-Footage

At about 26 seconds into the video you see the loadout screen for the Elites, and the jet-pack is one of the Armor Abilities.

Sweet...

 

[GiantSpiderGoat]

So far I'm really liking the beta. Can't wait for some new maps though.

 

[latenightapplepie]

I should be disturbed that I've played almost 13 and half hours of the Beta thus far, shouldn't I? Oh well, I'm having so much fun!

 

[Baconmonster723]

I'm loving the beta so far, I can only think of two complaints.

It's very easy for the attacker to win on one flag ctf on Swordbase, and the plasma launcher probably needs toning down just a little, I mean, it's like a rocket launcher with a huge clip, homing capability and sticky projectiles. Ouch.

Yes, it is very overpowered. One stick from the grenade it launches and the individual is dead. It has 10 shots. I you are competent with it you can easily get 8 kills, as I routinely do when I use it. Personally it would be very easy to fix. Take away its homing ability. The large clip compensates for the instant boom of the Rocket Launcher due to the fact that it takes a couple moments for it to explode.

A couple other things that have been peeving me. Frag Grenades don't have a legitimate fuse. When they hit the ground they explode 1.5 seconds later. If thrown at the ground they blow up in 2-2.5 seconds. If you throw them into the air, I've had grenades last 5-6 seconds then blow up. This discrepancy is really bugging me. They are frag grenades after all and do in fact have a set fuse. I also think their explosive killing radius is quite large, but that doesn't bother me that much. However, the headshot hit box is really sporadic. You can have the aiming reticle on the head of an enemy, and solely on the head of an enemy and not hit them in the head (I've found it to be especially sporadic with the DMR). I also believe magnums are far too strong, you can three shot an individual with them. That's ridiculous with a starting weapon, they should take away it's scope to make headshots harder, or decrease it's power. These are just some things I've noticed and tested with a buddy of mine, the beta is good, but like any beta it does have some balance issues.

Also, this is a little pet peeve of mine with the Halo Series. Can we please have a kills and deaths chart to look at in game? I just want to know how many times I've died. It helps to tell you what you're doing isn't working. But when I'm sitting there with 15 kills it doesn't seem like I'm playing poorly, then I find out I have 16-18 deaths at the end. I just wanna be able to look at my K/D during the game :/.

 

[slopeslider]

I'm loving the beta so far, I can only think of two complaints.

It's very easy for the attacker to win on one flag ctf on Swordbase, and the plasma launcher probably needs toning down just a little, I mean, it's like a rocket launcher with a huge clip, homing capability and sticky projectiles. Ouch.

Yes, it is very overpowered. One stick from the grenade it launches and the individual is dead. It has 10 shots. I you are competent with it you can easily get 8 kills, as I routinely do when I use it. Personally it would be very easy to fix. Take away its homing ability. The large clip compensates for the instant boom of the Rocket Launcher due to the fact that it takes a couple moments for it to explode.

A couple other things that have been peeving me. Frag Grenades don't have a legitimate fuse. When they hit the ground they explode 1.5 seconds later. If thrown at the ground they blow up in 2-2.5 seconds. If you throw them into the air, I've had grenades last 5-6 seconds then blow up. This discrepancy is really bugging me. They are frag grenades after all and do in fact have a set fuse. I also think their explosive killing radius is quite large, but that doesn't bother me that much. However, the headshot hit box is really sporadic. You can have the aiming reticle on the head of an enemy, and solely on the head of an enemy and not hit them in the head (I've found it to be especially sporadic with the DMR). I also believe magnums are far too strong, you can three shot an individual with them. That's ridiculous with a starting weapon, they should take away it's scope to make headshots harder, or decrease it's power. These are just some things I've noticed and tested with a buddy of mine, the beta is good, but like any beta it does have some balance issues.

Also, this is a little pet peeve of mine with the Halo Series. Can we please have a kills and deaths chart to look at in game? I just want to know how many times I've died. It helps to tell you what you're doing isn't working. But when I'm sitting there with 15 kills it doesn't seem like I'm playing poorly, then I find out I have 16-18 deaths at the end. I just wanna be able to look at my K/D during the game :/.

No the magnum doesn't 3hk people. It's 6-7 to take the shields down at range and 1 headshot. with an 8 round mag, it's not bad, it's like a dmr that you must make every shot hit and the last a headshot.

 

[Blasphemous Rex]

I know this is irrelevant but it doesn't warrant it's own thread, it's a small logical prediction to how Halo: Reach might link to the ending of Halo 3;

Spoiler

In the final sequence, if you beat Halo 3 on legendary, thie ship Masterchief is in stasis in is seen floating slowly towards a large (seemingly ravaged) planet. Some people predicted that this planet might be Reach.

Now let's take it this way: We all know how Halo: Reach is going to end, since it's a prequel and we know that the covenant end up glassing the planet up. It would make sense for Bungie to twist the ending/plot by revealing a few secrets on Reach or something, and then revealing that planet to be the one MC is floating towards!

raving fanboy /off

You are indeed a raving fanboy, and how awesome would that be!! Dammit, now my mind is blown.

 

[Dreey]

No need for bumperjumper when you have jetpacks!

 

[Meggiepants]

double

snip

Would it be alright if I added both of you on XBL?

Of course! I should warn you, I may talk about books if you do.

And perhaps the color pink....

hehe, thats quite alright!

Adding now.

I forgot to talk about the color pink!

I shall remedy that when next we play. If I haven't thoroughly embarrassed myself with my low kill count that is.

 

[Irridium]

double

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Would it be alright if I added both of you on XBL?

Of course! I should warn you, I may talk about books if you do.

And perhaps the color pink....

hehe, thats quite alright!

Adding now.

I forgot to talk about the color pink!

I shall remedy that when next we play. If I haven't thoroughly embarrassed myself with my low kill count that is.

Indeed it was fun!
Well, it was when I wasn't getting disconnected >.<
And don't worry about the kill count, having fun is what matters most!

 

[Meggiepants]

double

snip

Would it be alright if I added both of you on XBL?

Of course! I should warn you, I may talk about books if you do.

And perhaps the color pink....

hehe, thats quite alright!

Adding now.

I forgot to talk about the color pink!

I shall remedy that when next we play. If I haven't thoroughly embarrassed myself with my low kill count that is.

Indeed it was fun!
Well, it was when I wasn't getting disconnected >.<
And don't worry about the kill count, having fun is what matters most!

You get 37 awesome points today for saying that!

I can't wait until the full game comes out in the fall. We need more maps!

 

[Irridium]

double

snip

Would it be alright if I added both of you on XBL?

Of course! I should warn you, I may talk about books if you do.

And perhaps the color pink....

hehe, thats quite alright!

Adding now.

I forgot to talk about the color pink!

I shall remedy that when next we play. If I haven't thoroughly embarrassed myself with my low kill count that is.

Indeed it was fun!
Well, it was when I wasn't getting disconnected >.<
And don't worry about the kill count, having fun is what matters most!

You get 37 awesome points today for saying that!

I can't wait until the full game comes out in the fall. We need more maps!

Yay! And I agree. More maps = more fun. I remember them saying that they would put out the Invasion gametype eventually, that'll be fun!

 

[Meggiepants]

Snip snipity!

Yay! And I agree. More maps = more fun. I remember them saying that they would put out the Invasion gametype eventually, that'll be fun!

Yes! The two maps I read about that I haven't seen yet are Boneyard and Overlook. Overlook is very cool looking.
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/108/1086935p1.html

 

[Geo Da Sponge]

I've thoroughly enjoyed myself so far. The new weapons are fun, the game is more frenetic, the armour abilities add to the game without being unbalanced.

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This is because of Bungie's new shield system. No longer can you do the old AR attack where you spray their shields to low, and then kill them in 1 punch. They now have it set to where (except for with certain weapons, IE sniper rifle/rocket launcher) if you have any shields left, it will absorb all the damage dealt to you. In other words, if he has almost no shields left whatsoever, the damage from the punch will only knock out the shields, and the remaining damage DOES NOT carry over to the health. Because of this, no matter what it will take 2 melees to kill someone, unless you took out all their shields first. So everyone who's trying to do the AR + melee combo is going to be beaten by anyone who simply punches them twice.

I've still gotten one-shot-killed form shotguns though, with full shields.

Any weapon which should be able to one hit kill is an exception to this. Rockets, the grenade launcher, the shotgun, the sniper rifle, stuff like that. One thing I have noticed is that the Energy Sword isn't always a one hit kill now. Anyone else noticed that?

I haven't played the game yet, but do the Elites get to use the same item powers/abilities that the Spartans have?

I don't know about all of them, but I think it's safe to assume cloaking and assasinations, plus the Elites get the roll and Spartans don't. Sprint isn't going to be there but the elite moves at the speed of a sprinting Spartan at normal speed anyway.
My guess, we they might not get all of the upgrades, but certainly enough of them.

All the armour abilities are available to both player types, with the exception being Sprint (Spartan only) and Evade (Elite only). Of course, this is assuming the gametype has those armour abilities as an option. I got to play an all-Elite game (Covy slayer) and it was amazing. Everyone gets given Evade and gets to choose between a Needle Rifle or a Plasma Repeater as their primary weapon. Plasma Pistol is secondary for both classes. And the plasma punch is incredibly effective with Evade.

 

[blobby218]

FANBOY MODE: oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god!!!!! it is SO good and the weapons are so good ecspecially the new beamrifle/sentinel beam it's amence and the assainations aaaahhhh!

SELF RESPECT MODE: yeah the reach beta is quite good and gives the actuall game a good reputation online even if the campain is shit. they have changed it enough for it to be good; its like cod 6, mixed with bad company 2, mixed with halo. and it works!

 

[Mafiastyle]

I'm loving it so far but it seems like grenades are the new way to die. I go scout just to run away from those things because there's always a death bomb of grenades inc whenever you kill someone. [Oh I like the whole assassinate them in the air deal - it's funny stuff.] I still have yet to find any sniper spawns - (cries - its my favorite gun to kill with!) If I had the sniper, I'd go stalker with it. ^^

Also: I've already met the few RAGING people that curse out during arena team matches. People need to lighten up - so you die - just get up and pwn face kay?

 

[Armored Prayer]

I'm loving it so far but it seems like grenades are the new way to die. I go scout just to run away from those things because there's always a death bomb of grenades inc whenever you kill someone. [Oh I like the whole assassinate them in the air deal - it's funny stuff.] I still have yet to find any sniper spawns - (cries - its my favorite gun to kill with!) If I had the sniper, I'd go stalker with it. ^^

Also: I've already met the few RAGING people that curse out during arena team matches. People need to lighten up - so you die - just get up and pwn face kay?

Oh I know were the sniper is in sword base! Its on the bottom floor near the end with the two columns. It lying between them.

 

[Mafiastyle]

I'm loving it so far but it seems like grenades are the new way to die. I go scout just to run away from those things because there's always a death bomb of grenades inc whenever you kill someone. [Oh I like the whole assassinate them in the air deal - it's funny stuff.] I still have yet to find any sniper spawns - (cries - its my favorite gun to kill with!) If I had the sniper, I'd go stalker with it. ^^

Also: I've already met the few RAGING people that curse out during arena team matches. People need to lighten up - so you die - just get up and pwn face kay?

Oh I know were the sniper is in sword base! Its on the bottom floor near the end with the two columns. It lying between them.

Thank you! I usually steer clear of the bottom section because everyone usually hides out in that one room with the ventilation + stairwell. ^^ Now I can have more fun.