Well, I got the story. Even enjoyed it, at parts.
Not exactly the best out there, but mildly entertaining.
Not exactly the best out there, but mildly entertaining.
Halo Reach has no story.
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It having no story proved to make the game (to me) more enjoyable than at least Halo 3.The game series is actually terrible at storytelling.At least with this one they didn't bother with the story part,and made the campaign more fun.
No, but if you'd read the conversation I was having with another user (which that sentence was attached to), then you might understand.Wayneguard said:
Played it at a friend's house and never moved past some Hamburger Hill type location because I was stuck and bored as hell.
Okay, this is something I'm seeing a lot of, so I might as well throw in my 2 cents now. You are both correct and wrong, but mostly wrong.Cyan. said:
Halo DOES have a story, you just need to understand that videogame storytelling is FAR different from any other method of storytelling in existence, including books, movies, etc.
Know why? You have no control over the events of a movie. You can't look around at your surroundings in a book. THAT is how Halo tells it's story, through atmosphere, not narrative. In terms of narrative, yes, Halo has little to none. Frankly, I like it that way. You see the story for yourself as you play through the levels.
Take Reach, for example. As you being the campaign, you see the planet of Reach in all it's beauty. On the earlier levels you even encounter some local fauna (that you can kill for an achievement, if you're so inclined). The planet has a sense of life to it.
As the campaign goes on and the covenant invasion really kicks off, you actually begin to see the once beautiful planet die. Forests are burning, all the local flora and fauna are dieing/dead, entire cities are crumbling. As the campaign goes on even the once brilliantly blue sky turns red from all the fire and destruction.
BioShock told it's story in a similar way, but it also had a narrative. Atmosphere is a great way for videogames to tell their stories, and I for one infinitely prefer this method over the Metal Gear Solid "Play for 10 minutes, now watch this hour-long cutscene that goes into all the technical jargon you don't give a fuck about".
I read the first book and played through the other 4 games. The main thing I didn't get is where this is in the time-line. Halo 3 made it seem as though Cortana met John when he was young. However, in the book John doesn't have any AI. There were loose ends sure but, it wasn't that difficult to penetrate.
Listen closely...
LEARN MORE ABOUT HALO AND WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE THE COVENANT ATTACK!
...augh...
1)Ok, colonies wanted seperation from the UNSC so,they rebeled.
2)Spartans were made in order to help control and stop rebelin
3)Reach was important because it was the last stronghold protecting Earth,also it was where the primary training facilities of the ODSTs,Marines, and spartans.
And it does tell you these things. You just have to think, listen closely and, you know, think!
This was a rant/infromadal post brought you by a previously annoyed halo fanboy brought to you by the UNSC, telling you that the aliens are people trying to kill you,* and to kill them, not the guys you smuggle shit from!
*If you got that, then you have taken in some of the backstory! w00t!
LEARN MORE ABOUT HALO AND WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE THE COVENANT ATTACK!
...augh...
1)Ok, colonies wanted seperation from the UNSC so,they rebeled.
2)Spartans were made in order to help control and stop rebelin
3)Reach was important because it was the last stronghold protecting Earth,also it was where the primary training facilities of the ODSTs,Marines, and spartans.
And it does tell you these things. You just have to think, listen closely and, you know, think!
This was a rant/infromadal post brought you by a previously annoyed halo fanboy brought to you by the UNSC, telling you that the aliens are people trying to kill you,* and to kill them, not the guys you smuggle shit from!
*If you got that, then you have taken in some of the backstory! w00t!
I don't see what of that was wrong. Console shooters aren't known for there epic storytelling or indepth worlds with deeply fleshed out character, like you find in other genres. It's natural that the storylines aren't going to be as well thought out or even as good as other genres.Korten12 said:
And please, let's not be insulting, eh?
Doom had little to no story. Neither did the original Super Mario Bros. Who cares? I'm sure it didn't have NO story whatsoever, it had to have at least a small plot. If you want a story, then do read a book, or play a Silent Hill or Mass Effect or Half Life. It's like saying your dinner roll doesn't clean windows: It's not SUPPOSED to clean windows. I guess if you tried hard you could, but you'd get bread all over the window.
Em guys watch out when you're going to say the ending I read the ending 4 times there. Really, spoilers.
I think you should bear in mind that Halo Reach's "story" is part of a much bigger pictured that trascends not only games, but also books and film. So yeah, even though Reach's story doesn't make any sense by itself, when put together with the other pieces, it makes perfect sense. Not that the story is too mind blowing, but it is at least coherent, and as a point in its favour, has quite an extensive lore.
So my suggestion is tht you go to a library, any library, and pick up a book belonging to a saga. What's more, pick up The Lord of the Rings. Even if you read the three, you still won't know how it all started if you don't read The Hobbit. Regardless of how degrading the example was, my point stands: you can't possibly hope to understand Reach if you don't hold all the pieces to the puzzle. And sadly, that means reading the Halo books too. I'll admit that making casual gamers read books sounds as something as likely to happen as me accepting defeat, and that Bungie made a grave error here, but still, and as said before, it's Halo, and it's story isn't prize material, so really, it's hardly worth getting worked up about.
So my suggestion is tht you go to a library, any library, and pick up a book belonging to a saga. What's more, pick up The Lord of the Rings. Even if you read the three, you still won't know how it all started if you don't read The Hobbit. Regardless of how degrading the example was, my point stands: you can't possibly hope to understand Reach if you don't hold all the pieces to the puzzle. And sadly, that means reading the Halo books too. I'll admit that making casual gamers read books sounds as something as likely to happen as me accepting defeat, and that Bungie made a grave error here, but still, and as said before, it's Halo, and it's story isn't prize material, so really, it's hardly worth getting worked up about.
And suddenly, the fact that so many former cast-members of "Firefly" have lent their voices to this game just made it THAT much more awesome.Irridium said:
Greatest videogame conspiracy ever- Halo takes place in the future of the Firefly universe, and all those ODST's voiced by Firefly characters actually ARE the Firefly characters. who joined/ were drafted by the UNSC to fight dem aliens.
Now I'll let you hardcore Firefly fans prove this is impossible and crush my dreams.
You should write MIA. No Spartan has ever been declared KIA, even when the body was recovered. The reasoning is that the public sees the Spartan IIs as invincible, and the millitary wants them to keep thinking that to keep morale up.demoman_chaos said: