Halo Reach Invasion gameplay

[Silver Patriot]

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I just want to but in here and share my knowledge with you guys about the differences between the Elites and the Spartans

This time around you do not have mixed teams, due to the fact that they are so different. You know that, so I'll go on to why the shields are different. And you are right about that DarkDain. The Spartans didn't have shields during Reach, not as far as I remember at least. And if they did, they probably wasn't as effective as they turned out to be later on. And remember that John-117 is the only Spartan with an AI in his armor. I guess that means he is the only one with that advanced armor type. But I haven't read the books in a while, so I don't remember that fully.

Anyway, from what I have learned you can play Elites in more modes than Invasion. But what determines if you can or not is beyond me. Maybe the maps? Or maybe it is an option for the one who is hosting?

The hitboxes are different of course, so you are easier to hit when playing as an Elite. This should level the playing fields a bit, but they are still stronger it seems. Especially since you have to pick up health packs when you play as Spartans. Which makes sense, since you had to do this in Halo:CE. And since this happens before Halo:CE, it follows the continuity. I guess the new armor John got in Halo 2 had the health regen ability.

Anyway, I might not have said anything new after all, but maybe I did. I don't know
Oh, and Giantbomb.com has a good video on Halo:Reach. It can also be seen on Halo:Waypoint.

I for one is actually looking forward to the SP more. I was never good at MP in Halo, but I guess I will try it when I get the game sometime. I still haven't played ODST, so might get that first. But my first priority now is Red Dead Redemption... man, that game is gonna rock. Especially the MP. We should get an Escapist Posse together But that is way off-topic! Sorry

It's worth pointing out that in both single player and multiplayer you are a Spartan III, not a Spartan II. Spartan IIIs were mostly used as shock troops in high risk millitary operations. As such while they are quite formidable both their tech and their training is inferior to that of a Spartan II's[footnote]It's also worth pointing out Master Chief was the Spartan IIs de facto leader.[/footnote]

Just a few things to help clear up any questions.

1. Spartan IIs while EXTREMELY effective were also astronomically expensive. Costing as much as a Battle Group.[footnote]according to Captain Rich at least. Exact costs are never stated[/footnote] (A few ships) Also their training took roughly 10-12 years with a survival rate of about 50%. Finally the potental canadates themselves had to be selected out of a narrow age and genetic pool. So they were not that expendable.

2. The Spartan IIIs were the answer to this. Cheaper and easier to "produce"[footnote] I have NO IDEA where they got the childern from but appearently at least one source came from survivors of Covenant invasions[/footnote] they were trained in companies comprised of roughly 300 soldiers. They were used in High Risk High Reward "suicide missions". The mortality rate was nearly 100% in every mission, however the missions were a success.

3. Nobal Team is apparently a group of Spartan IIIs (and a Spartan II} who survived from Alpha and Beta companies.

 

[Silver Patriot]

Im sure im the only one asking, but can you use Elites in any game mode? Ive only seen them in an Invasion style game and not in a mixed race slayer.

No. Elites are far more powerful than the Spartan IIIs. So it would be unbalanced.

Yes but some inticing gameplay footage has shown elites battling other elites.... this has lead me to believe that one can choose between Spartan Versus Spartan or Elite Versus Elite, with Invasion being the blurring line.

Hopefully you can customise elites and Spartans in Invasion mode because otherwise making Machininma feautring both has hit a snag.

I guess they would have to use Forge huh? (Last I heard them said it would be in Reach, but that could be subject to change)

Anyway what you said is pretty much it. specific gametypes will let you have Elites on Spartans but otherwise it's just one or the other. Bungie was also very quick to point out that your SPARTAN is your identity, your Elite is just an extra.

 

[chstens]

Whoever that was in the video, he sucked balls. He didn't use sprint once, when he went up against the ghost he couldn't aim with his rocket launcher, and he didn't use armor lock, he couldn't aim with DMR, and he switched out a shotgun for a sword.

I...I don't even know what to say, except that I hope he's never on my team.

You know that sprint and armor lock are two different armor abilities, right? And you can only have one.

You know he changed kits multiple times, which changes what armor ability you have right?

I'm going to be completely honest with you, I didn't actually watch the video. So I guess I shouldnt've said anything to begin with.

 

[8-Bit Grin]

I've never really fallen head over heels for Halo, but...
I always give them second chances. Here's hoping! -F

 

[chstens]

Whoever that was in the video, he sucked balls. He didn't use sprint once, when he went up against the ghost he couldn't aim with his rocket launcher, and he didn't use armor lock, he couldn't aim with DMR, and he switched out a shotgun for a sword.

I...I don't even know what to say, except that I hope he's never on my team.

You know that sprint and armor lock are two different armor abilities, right? And you can only have one.

You know he changed kits multiple times, which changes what armor ability you have right?

I'm going to be completely honest with you, I didn't actually watch the video. So I guess I shouldnt've said anything to begin with.

Yeah, I would have to say you probably shouldn't have. What's the point of providing input if you have no idea what you're talking about? Are you just trying to raise your post count?

No, I thought it was a link to a video I had already seen, where the guy doesn't die (or makes it seem like it through the magic of editing)

 

[Sephychu]

Eehh...
It looks a bit too much like Halo 3 for my tastes. I mean, I expected this for ODST, but not for Reach. I noticed that quite a few of the animations just looked directly copy and pasted.

I'll keep an open mind like I always do, but I've been disappointed by Halo every time so far.

 

[Rusty Bucket]

looks pretty good, but I am not a fan of the class system. maybe it just let's you choose your starting weapon, that's fine, but it looks like you can choose perks, which is copying off CoD4 and the like, which I would use if I want to play CoD4, not Halo.

Agreed, the class system reaks of trying to copy CoD. I personally liked Halo for not having it, it kept the game about your playing skill, not you ability to pick out the best perks. I'm hoping that the class system will be as shallow as it seems, I don't want to find my self constantly min-maxing.

It is pretty shallow actually. You don't get to customise it at all. There's set loadouts for each gametype that include starting primary and secondary weapons, grenades and the armour ability. It is a little like CoD, but with less depth. It just brings another layer to the combat.

 

[Armored Prayer]

Like I say in all new Reach "AWESOME!"

I just love how they made the Elites more badass. There faster, taller, soak up a lot of damage, and apparently have regenerating health. (or so I've heard)

I cant wait for the beta.

 

[DarthLurtz]

Just to clarify, these aren't perk systems like in MW2. They give you a weapon/ability set to choose from based on what stage of invasion you are on, and in Slayer, they're all open to choice.

In other words, you don't unlock new kits, everyone has the same kit selection options, so it won't be high level players dominating the new players automatically.

 

[MetallicaRulez0]

Why is it always the worst players in the entire world that are in these Friends and Family Alpha versions? I swear some of these people don't have thumbs.

 

[duchaked]

The environments look a bit dull and similar to Halo 3, but the gameplay looks like it's going to be really fun.

I never understand why people hate Halo 3 so much, it's far more balanced than COD.

Cause the Halo series in general is pretty mediocre. The multiplayer is decent but it's not nearly as good as Tribes was, which is the series Halo basically ripped off a lot of their core gameplay mechanics from

But in what way is it mediocre?

The mechanics are tight, it's balanced, the maps are well designed, the frame rate is solid, it looks good...

How is it mediocre?

I think Halo can be VERY mediocre...compared to having sex anyway

...except I feel like Reach is gonna one-up that actually hahaha

 

[MiracleOfSound]

I think Halo can be VERY mediocre...compared to having sex anyway

...except I feel like Reach is gonna one-up that actually hahaha

I've yet to see one reasonable argument on this thread as to how Halo is mediocre.

As far as I can see from the ones I've played (C.E., Halo 3, Halo ODST) it functions better than 99% of FPS games, has top quality, challenging AI and a very balanced multiplayer.

I'm starting to think people only rip on it because of the bright coloured graphics and the 12 year olds in the commmunity.

 

[Punisher A.J.]

Invasion eh?

Well my mighty Sangheilian bretheren, tonight we shall tramble the shrivelled remains of all those weak and useless humans..... MWA HA HA HA!!!

We aren't humans.....were SPARTANS!!

is it just me or is that funny.

 

[Jasper Jeffs]

dude you do realize that almost ALL console fps's have aim assist, right? they need it in order to counter the bad maneuverability of hand held controllers. If they didn't you would bareally be able to shoot any thing.

It's not that bad, I've played various games with aim assist off (to try it out), if it was never in the game people would just adapt, and a lot of kills would actually be respectable. Look at Lost Planet or MAG, they work well without aim assist, MAG in particular. Plus, it makes a (sniper) kill all the more satisfying when it was me doing the aiming.

Also, I hardly play console FPS's now, I'll play the odd game on BF2 or COD just to speak to my mates, but even that's only like 1 match a week or something. Although, if I did own a PS3 (my brother does), I'd be playing MAG.

 

[sylekage]

I'm actually wicked excited about this game. I've loved Halo from the first day I played it, me with a shit eating grin playing the demo at GameStop (or was it Electronics Etc.?), and ever since then I've given Halo a chance and have had my share of disappointments, but it was balanced out by surprises.

Halo: Reach looks like it's gonna be what ODST was supposed to be. Pure, adrenaline packed, fun. The multiplayer looks kick ass, the campaign (what we've seen) looks awesome, and the weapons look like badassed versions of old ones.

I can't wait to see if this one delivers.