Halo Reach Perfect 10! WTF?

[SushiJaguar]

This is IGN we're talking about. The biggest crock of shit ever to rear it's ugly hive mind-containing head. I rarely listen to anyone else's opinion on games these days, and just decide for myself. Free thought, there's a bloody good thing to have!

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

Having just beat the campaign, it's easily the best campaign (and the best-told story) of the Halo franchise. Make of that what you will.

John Funk has shown us the way yet again

Or at least myself. I highly doubt the story will be as bad as that review makes it out to be considering I personally think the story of Halo is brilliant.

EDIT:

This is IGN we're talking about. The biggest crock of shit ever to rear it's ugly hive mind-containing head. I rarely listen to anyone else's opinion on games these days, and just decide for myself. Free thought, there's a bloody good thing to have!

Amen to that mate!

 

[Ampersand]

*Sigh* It seems to me that you think you are alot cleverer then you really are.
For some reason in every creative media there is always a community of snobs who insist that if something is popular it must be bad.
Games are not movies and no one in thier right mind thinks they should be, Excellent gameplay is what makes an excellent game.
In my opinion the story in each halo game has been perfect because it sets the groundwork and then gets the hell out of the way and lets you do your thing until just before the end credits. If you want the story there's like ten novels of it and about half of them are genuinely excelent. It makes alot more sence to enjoy a story with book in your hands then with a controler lying idle and impotent in your lap.

 

[Iwata]

Games dont need a plot to be perfect, just need to be fun and enjoyable. Chess has no plot, neither does Tetris.

That, sir, is a retarded argument. Neither Chess nor Tetris pretend to have a story to begin with. You just play it. However, if a game has cutscenes, plot advancement points, dialogue, then I'd say it does indeed have a plot. And if it does have a plot, it should at least pretend to be good. Otherwise, they'd just as well toss you into the game and make you kill things. No dialogue, no story, no nothing. Just point and kill. However, the Halo series always considered "plot" to be part of it. In fact, if I had to guess, I'd say "epic" is a word often used to describe its setting.

So saying out of the blue that plot is irrelevant to the series goes against the game itself.

You know what they say: if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

 

[Ampersand]

When reviewing a piece of media, you can't just say "That doesn't matter!" because, well, it does

Oh yes you can, because often it doesn't.

 

[Iwata]

Games dont need a plot to be perfect, just need to be fun and enjoyable. Chess has no plot, neither does Tetris.

That, sir, is a retarded argument. Neither Chess nor Tetris pretend to have a story to begin with. You just play it. However, if a game has cutscenes, plot advancement points, dialogue, then I'd say it does indeed have a plot. And if it does have a plot, it should at least pretend to be good. Otherwise, they'd just as well toss you into the game and make you kill things. No dialogue, no story, no nothing. Just point and kill. However, the Halo series always considered "plot" to be part of it. In fact, if I had to guess, I'd say "epic" is a word often used to describe its setting.

So saying out of the blue that plot is irrelevant to the series goes against the game itself.

You know what they say: if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

Only a retard insults peoples opinions. You can disagree with my comment without insulting the writer. Read what the thread is about. They mention it got 10/10 even thought the plot was considered irrelevant. My comment was to do with that. Halo had a dumb plot that was never that good in the first place, and especially was never a reason to play the game. People play them for the gameplay or the online mode. So a game can still get 10/10 even if the plot isnt that great but the gameplay is.

I didn't insult you, I merely pointed out the level of intelligence of the argument itself. I'm not to blame if you have an ego made of tin foil.

Regardless, no, a game cannot get a 10/10 if the reviewer says "yeah, it's pretty good, but..."

That "but" implies not everything is right. If not everything is right, it's not perfect. If it's not perfect, it doesn't warrant a perfect score.

See? Simple.

 

[mjc0961]

EDIT: owing to some people getting confused I would like to point out that this review is to be found on the IGN

As soon as you got to the part that says "IGN" you should have known that the review would be nothing but a joke. Maybe someday I'll understand why people take IGN's reviews seriously, but as of now I'm dumbfounded.

 

[Captain Pirate]

The four steps of the FPS cycle:
1. We have tons of subpar "realistic" shooters.
2. We want variety and crazy shit.
3. We get it and complain it's random and unrealistic.
2. We have tons of subpar "realistic" shooters.

This is so true, great words good sir.
Though I semi-disagree with the subpar bit, I think some of these gritty brownies are pretty good. If overdone.

OT: I love Halo, and have no doubts that it'll be a 10/10 in my book too. I never cared too much about the story in a game like it, it's just too much fun. You know, like how old games were, back when bloody Half Life 2 or some shit made a good story the norm.
Yeah sure I love a good story too, but a game doesn't need one to be good, and the story, no matter how bad, wouldn't degrade my opinion of Halo too much unless the story was truly balls out crazy.
Like, riding-a-dragon-made-of-bacon-into-the-sun-to-save-the-universe-from-a-giant-lesbian-octopus-crazy.

When reviewing a piece of media, you can't just say "That doesn't matter!" because, well, it does

Oh yes you can, because often it doesn't.

I also quite agree. I don't think it does matter too much, considering how Reach has about 4, fully-customisable, awesome, game parts that have very probably been polished until you can see your face in them, and that I can make a safe bet will last me years to come.

 

[Atmos Duality]

This is why a scoring system is flawed; it assigns numeric values (objective, empirical) to subjective content (opinion about the game).

In my opinion, Halo Reach would only get a 10/10 from me if it had a deep, peerless story, bug-free, innovative, fun gameplay, and gave me a blowjob for completing the game.

See how easy it is to build hype around that?

Instead, I expect Halo Reach to feature the same decent, piss-easy shoot-n-slap gameplay they have made for the last 8 years. I think not giving Microsoft money though will bring me more happiness than playing through Halo 1 yet again.

That's also my opinion, and a speculative one at that.

 

[TheRundownRabbit]

No surprise here

 

[VanityGirl]

You know what? FUCK IGN.

There, now go out and enjoy the game and don't be a mindless sheep.

I NEVER listen to what IGN has to say, mainly because they've given really good games low scores and really bad games high scores.
I'm going to enjoy Halo Reach regardless of what some shitty site says. I hate how people jump to conclusions before they play the game themselves.

Have a good day. Remember IGN is the devil.

 

[Wolfram23]

Another reason why I read reviews to see how the game plays, but not for an end score. Scores are pure bullshit.

 

[JuryNelson]

As far as I can tell, in artistic terms reviewers like IGN create the impression that Transformers 2: Revenge of the Fallen is better than the Godfather.

That's an oversimplification, but the point you make is a good one. If it's "a great game, but?" then it should not be a 10. End of story.

If you ask me, the "7-9" scale that AAA titles actually wind up skating is about how it should be. Under 7 means don't buy, and 8-9 means borderline essential.

As a PSP owner, however, I wind up buying MANY, many games I shouldn't.

 

[JuryNelson]

You know what? FUCK IGN.

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Have a good day. Remember IGN is the devil.

IGN is a wholly owned subsidiary of News Corporation. Other such holdings include The Sun tabloid, MySpace records, GameSpy.com and the Fox News Channel.

So, yeah. The Devil.

 

[imnot]

...That the below par and the slightly cr@ppy are fine, so long as the gameplay is frenetic and fun and made by Bungie.

Yeah, pretty much. Stories are there to enhance the gameplay, not the other way around.

But even so, you can't throw around the 'perfect' designation if that's the case. 'Pretty good', sure, but 'perfect'? I don't think so.
Something tells me fanboyism has, once again, fudged the numbers.

Having just beat the campaign, it's easily the best campaign (and the best-told story) of the Halo franchise. Make of that what you will.

Lucky review-copy-posessing bastard...

I suggest we raid the escapist and steal Reach, I mean sure its coming in the post tomorrow BUT I MUSY HAVES IT NOW!
[small]It is, precious to me...[/small]

 

[Jesus Phish]

I've stopped taking game critics seriously a long time ago.

I've stopped taking all critics seriously. Game ones seem to be the worst of the bunch in terms of not being biased.

 

[Captain Pirate]

I suggest we raid the escapist and steal Reach, I mean sure its coming in the post tomorrow BUT I MUSY HAVES IT NOW!
[small]It is, precious to me...[/small]

I quite agree. Rally the zebras, we ride to Fort Escapist!